Re: mightymiteI didn't mean to attack. I only wanted to point out
that your answer to Tucket? is not true. Mormons are Christians. I'm not angry,
I only try to take the opportunity to point out the truth and don't wish to get
into an argument.May God bless you, too.
Re: misschicagoI am not anit-mormon, nor do I mean any disrespect. I
have only written the truth. I am not sure where your anger comes. What I wrote
in my post is factual and meant to answer a simple question from Tucket. Please
try to refrain from attacking. May God bless you.
@ mightymite 2:53 pm July 2"...when a Mormon chooses to convert to
Christianity..." When I read or hear a comment like this, I
know it's from an anti-Mormon in Utah. When I hear or read "Only in
Utah" I used to think the person was making fun of us, but now I believe
that "Only in Utah" means anti-Mormons. In the past I've lived in a
lot of states and I never heard or read any anti-Mormon talk. I know, I know, we
Mormons are getting a lot of media attention right now and some of it is
insulting like your "message." Don't you people have any hobbies?
I was in graduate school at the U of Wisconsin in the 60s when a well known
Social Scientist wrote an article predicting the disintegration and collapse of
the LDS church especially under the leadership its new President, Joseph
Fielding Smith. He felt that the Blacks and the priesthood and the influx of
international members would tear it apart. Since then I've stood in priesthood
circles and enjoyed the temple with my black friends and neighbors, been
thrilled to attend the temple in Japan and other countries. Around the world I
found diversity in cultures and language but one in gospel principles and love.
The restored gospel is for all people in all cultures and ages, Why? Because we
are all spiritual brothers and sisters.
Re: Tucket?You are correct, when a mormon chooses to convert to
christianity they must be baptized with the proper authority.
If a Latter-day Saint becomes a baptist would he have to be rebaptized? I
suppose so. This is hypocrisy. Mormons try to be honest, friendly, hopeful,
charitable, etc. What is wrong with that?
I often tell my Mormon friends that if they want to be understood they need to
start by understanding their neighbors. I have seen many Mormon missionaries
tell other Christians their baptism isn't valid because it wasn't performed by
one having authority. What these missionaries don't understand is that to most
Christians Baptism isn't some sort of contract. It is an act of faith like
prayer. They unintentionally offend people because they don't take the time to
find out about the people they are trying to persuade.
The quote from Dr Jan Shipps is one of the most thoughtful and understanding
opinions I have heard in the last few days.
My experience is those who don't understand us have not tried to understand us
and sit back and make such statements, such as "Strange, strange stories
and philosophies!" If they are strange then so are the stories in the
bible, such as the creation, the flood, the drowning of Egyptian armies pursuing
the Israelites, Elijah mocking and finally having the priests of BAAL put to
death, a donkey talking to Baalam, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Joshua
and the battle of Jericho, the birth of Christ, his crucifixion and
resurrection. I love those strange stories because they increase my faith in
God. I guess when Christ said that if ye are not baptized you cannot inherit
the Kingdom of God is also a strange philosophy to you. The scriptures tell us
not to depend on man, yet one church claims that their church is built on a man
and not on revelation, which Christ said gave that man the answer to his
question. Yes, indeed some strange stories and philosophies.
% Joseph WalkerYour efforts to call attention to the cited articles are
not yet very effective. It seems like a lot of reading before I get the point
you are making. The cited articles are excellent, but if I weren't determined to
figure out what you were saying, I would have quickly passed them by. There
should be a better way to highlight articles that Latter-day Saints should be
reading and why they are important. Perhaps one of those top 10 or top 5 LDS
things with graphics and leader texts like they do at money/cnn, each one
linking to the original article. I don't think most people will wade through
your current style for this.
I am pretty sure no fit was being sarcastic, but maybe not.
hey no fit: you're entitled to your opinions. live your life, i'll live
mine...and we'll see how it all works out when we get to the hereafter. no
worries if you don't understand LDS teachings and lifestyle and choose to demean
those who adhere to its tenets.but, as a convert, I have studied
Mormon doctrine/history, studied/asked a LOT of questions and have benefited
greatly. The trajectory my life has taken differs greatly compared to my parents
and siblings, but I couldn't happier. true, I'm far from perfect, but I've had
some amazing experiences b/c of my Church membership. So, to each his own.
humanism, spiritualism, organized religion, atheism, et al....we're all free to
Why would life be more difficult for Mormons as diversity increases? Wouldn't
the increase in diversity mean that there is room for Mormons? Why would Mormons
be excluded in a state of increased diversity? Isn't that a contradiction?
no fit in SG:Your comment doesn't make sense. There are more LDS
people not in the US than in the US. We are a very diverse religion. I don't
know where people get ideas that we are not diverse...maybe not so much in utah
but---it's utah not the most diverse place on this earth.
I have never been able to understand Mormons. Strange, strange stories and
philosophies!Pretty tight knit families seem to keep the religion going.
Life is going to be more difficult for them as diversity increases and becomes
more acceptable on our planet.