@ LDS Revelations: My experience with doctrine and the song is the same as
Denver. Personally, I find a great difference between "explicit
canon" and "implicit doctrine." The former is reliable; the
latter is not.@ Eliot: "Dish" is an older slang term than
"dis." "Dish" is short for "dish the dirt"
(gossip) or "dish it out" (give information). In this context, it's a
mild, informal way of saying he was giving information with the suggestion that
he may be telling what was wrong with the musical.
@ Denver-Your list includes things I was repeatedly taught and have by
taught by LDS leaders for decades. Some are based on extrapolation and some are
not explicit canon but instead implicit doctrine. They may not be taught now but
some were at one time and have been discarded.True, LDS are told to
pray and find their own answers but are also told that if they get an answer
that goes against the Church then they are wrong or deceived. IMO rejecting your
own answers until you can finally accept what you are given by those in
authority is exactly blind believing. Wouldn't you agree?Many LDS
substitute Kolob for a planet and the home of God. Why? Because it is the
nearest place to God's home they know of and because of LDS teachings regarding
eternal progression, God and the destiny of man. D&C 130 talks about God
living on a great Urim and Thummim and also how in it's celestial state the
earth will become one as well. Both feed into the teachings regardng God planets
and Kolob.Would you rather the song say "God lives on a giant
clear seer stone planet"?
The question was asked to name "one doctrine" stated in "I
Believe" which is untrue. Here are a few:-The requirement of blind
belief is not part of Mormonism. All are required to study, learn for
themselves, pray and get answers; not to blindly accept or believe anything from
anyone (including the Church's President).-The idea that God "always
has my back" is neither taught or believed. -The idea that everyone
"gets their own planet" is not taught nor believed. Indeed, Mormons
hope, along with the meek, to inherit this earth; as Christ mentions in the
Sermon on the Mount. -The idea that God will always answer a sincere
prayer. Joseph in Liberty Jail lamented God's silence. Believing in prayer is
not the same as believing God will always answer.-God does not live on a
planet named Kolob. Kolob is referred to in Abraham 3: 9 as a gravitational
star affecting time "nigh unto the throne of God" but is 1. Not a
planet & 2. Not where God lives.There are more, but this is a start.
The blind believing is the most offensive.
Bushman and Nibley seem to laugh at our culture as much as anyone----I always
enjoy Bushman's kindness, warmth, wit and positive outlook----he is an amazing
combination of talents. Elite people--including universities and media have
ignored religion for a long long time---and now they are forced to deal with
what they no longer can ignore. This didn't happen in a corner. And we
aren't going away.
Name one doctrine stated in "I Believe" that is untrue.
Enjoyed the article, the inadvertent attention, and agree with
"friend" and Bushman. Those seeking and fostering understanding
across cultures, religions etc are the best of people....... : ) Not saying
anything about those who don't....
Bushman asks, "Wouldn't it be wonderful if through this funny and
outrageous show we got to know one another better?"Amen!
"Scholars dish on "Mormon" musical"? What does "dish
on" mean? Do you mean "dis"? Are you trying to use slang for
disrespect? If so, that's puzzling because the article quotes Richard Bushman
who apparently doesn't have a problem with the musical and actually welcomes it
as a way to get people talking about Mormonism.
"THE BOOK OF MORMON" the longest running musical on the Deseret News
ANOTHER article about this musical! Give it up! I realize that many members of
the church like to feel victimized, but come on, enough is enough!