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Published: Wednesday, June 22 2011 11:30 p.m. MDT

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Veracity
Morgan, UT

I can think of at least one very small market of which people desire not only to stay in and play in (even when it is winter) and that is Green Bay, smaller than Provo with no large cities close by for support.

The reason, they build dynasties. Utah does not.

Until the front office is first class, the team will never be first class.

When restructuring a Corp., you do not start at the bottom and work up. You start at the top and work down.

If everyone is open for trade, other than the Millers, then lets trade, starting at the top.

I know, I know...you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. But the baby will never get clean if the water isn't changed some time.

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

Who are the most likely future superstars (not just all-stars) in this year's draft?

Remember, a superstar is unstoppable offensively, and has at least one other top talent, but can have a weakness that's more than offset by their offense and the other talent.

Think about any past/present superstar, and you'll see what I mean by their not having to be "perfect."

So,

- Irving: maybe, if he can pile up assists.
- Williams: maybe, if he can indeed play SF very well.
- Kanter: maybe, if he doesn't have knee issues AND can play team ball.
- Knight: doubtful; too many unknowns, and bad comparison numbers.
- Walker: nope; too smallish; jimmered at Jazz evaluation.
- Valanciunas: maybe; many unknowns, but can shoot foul shots, so maybe can score well in time?
- Fredette: sure; no real weaknesses that can't be fixed (see premise above).
- Singleton: doubtful; defense alone doesn't make a superstar.
- Burks: doubtful; college career indicates a good role player at best.
- Thompson: doubtful; college career indicates a good role player at best.

The Jazz need to draft a future superstar at 3. Without one, they'll remain mediocre.

Pickins are slim, but there are pickins.

Or, trade for one. Hah!

Wombat1247
Mount Beauty, VIC

Utah trades no. 3 pick (30 cents) and Mehmet Okur (nickel) to Sacramento for no. 7 pick (25 cents), Jason Thompson (dime), and $7.9 million in cap space (25 cents). Final tally: Sacramento (35 cents), Utah (60 cents).

Here's the beauty of this one: Sacramento adds $7.9 million in 2012 payroll (the difference between Okur's 10.9 million expiring deal and Thompson's $3 million deal) to jump four spots and grab Brandon Knight (a better fit for them than anyone at no. 7). Meanwhile, Utah sheds $7.9 million to drop four spots and take hometown hero Jimmer Fredette who they couldn't have taken at 3 without being ridiculed then trots out a Jimmer/Gordon Heyward backcourt next season that would basically melt the entire state of Utah into hot lava. I can't live in a world where Jimmer doesn't play for the Jazz. I just can't.

This leaves us with 7.9 million saved - Pick 7 Jimmer & Pick 12 Singleton / Hamilton / Burks or Thompson

Good deal IMO

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

After spending way too much time reading, listening, and researching who the Jazz should pick at 3 I am now convinced that the top 3 players in this draft are Irving, Williams and Kanter.

Knight however, is the safe pick. Picking Knight wont get you fired, he will be a solid starter 5 years from now, but he won't be an all star, he will be a Devon Harris clone (whom the Jazz all ready have).

Kanter is a risk, but he could be great and he can play a position that is extremely difficult to fill in the NBA - center. Kanter has more upside than Knight, and for a team that rarely picks in the top 5 the Jazz need to go for the home run and the only home run hitter at 3 is Kanter.

The Jazz should roll the dice and grab Kanter, he is the only impact player likely to be available. I would rather the Jazz swing and miss on Kanter than get a role player that never makes a real difference.

As for the 12th pick the Jazz should simply pick the best player on the board, regardless of need.

Kakashi
Tokyo, Japan

@wombat1247

i like your idea...instead of Jason Thompson..maybe we can have Omri Casspi or Marcus Thornton

Captain L
Provo, UT

Make it Kanter and Jimmer and all will be well.

scalman
Temecula, CA

Knight a Devon Harris clone...not sold on that at all. If Knight was a junior, them maybe that would be a valid guess. Knight will be a solid NBA guard for whomever picks him tonight, but how he develops as a point guard is anyone's guess. I'm hoping KOC goes Kanter or Jonas V., and which do I like most? Just don't know enough to choose.

IndianaCoug
Bloomington, IN

JIMMMMMMER!!!

JapanCougar
Apo, AP

ESPN mentions that San Antonio is looking at trades involving Tony Parker.

The Jazz can try to improve via the draft (which has not worked very well for teams like Minnesota, the Kings, or the Clippers to name a few), or they can try to get better via the trade (like Boston, LA, and Miami).

I'd love to see if the Jazz could get some good players from other teams now (Parker?), rather than wait 3 years to see if this draft pans out.

OrlandoJazzFan
Winter Springs, FL

Lets keep the fingers crossed - in a perfect world

William/Jimmer

That would be the most exciting combo for us and our needs

bobby d
Beaver, UT

While I do agree with some of these ideas, it is my feeling that we dont need to waste a pick on another 2o year old center. We have what will be a very good one in Favors. Resign Devin Harris and you have 15 points and 8 assists a night. Bring in someone to tutor Favors like Tyson Chandler. Let Dallas have the #3 for a point guard they so desperately need. Sweeten the pie by throwing in Okur to Dallas. We have backups for Devin and Haywood is going to be the SG. With a front line of Favors, Millsap, and Jefferson, then throw in a back court of Harris and Haywood, we could be very young and good for a long time to come.

TJ
Eagle Mountain, UT

The funniest part of this article is the beginning. The reporters are constantly nagging O'Conner and everyone else in the Jazz org. and they can't get them to utter a peep. It drives them nuts so they beat the speculation horse until it is nothing more than a pile of bones. Surely they have to realize that if the Jazz, or any other team who are not talking about the first pick might hurt their chances of getting the player(s) they want if they let it slip but their nature is stronger than common sense so they keep trying.

And this is not the most important draft in franchise history. The most important one is the one who brought the best / highest impact players to your team, or the one where a team chooses a bust while another team chooses a future supetstar with a later pick. The drafts that brought Stockton and Malone are 1 and 2 (you pick the order) and 2005 brought Williams here so that is #3. No one knows how important this one will be for several years.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

SAC has a better offer from SA than Okur for a good player and moving up. 8 Mill and a good player is too high of price to move up 4 spots.

Harris and Parker have similar numbers. Chandler is a FA and can't be traded.

There is no reason to dump the 3 pick. The Jazz may take a player they don't need that bad if they know they can trade him to another team below them and get what they do need and still get the players they want. You may see MN play the same game.

The Jazz could take Kanter, then wait to see what CLE does (and other teams moving up) and then trade down with TOR, WAS or SAC for an SF/SG while still getting Valanciunas/Knight with their lotto pick. The problem is SA (and other teams) offering Parker. HOU needs a big badly. They need Kanter or Valancuinas and would pay dearly to get either.

There are going to be some trades tonight. CHA, MIL and GS would like to trade down.

The Jazz are prepared and know what combo of players they want including existing ones via trade.

JP
Chandler, AZ

@Wombat
You really ought to cite it when you're quoting someone verbatim. That's straight out of The Sports Guy's trade machine column.

bballjunkie
Cedar Hills, UT

Kanter, and yes if there Jimmer. Great draft! If not new favorite team? Who ever takes the Jimmer.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

The Jazz are an attractive team with their history of Karl M and John S. They have also blended foreign players in this world of global expansion. I just wish for the best for a franchise that appears to be "head and shoulders": above the rest. I am a DePaul fan and Tyrone Corbin has an interesting background with links to the Blue Demons who have fallen on hard times.

Old Timer
the boonies, mexico

If SA will give up Hill for the 12th pick you know for whats sake DO IT! Hill is twice the athlete Jimmer is and maybe a better shooter as well, then the big thing he is proven Jimmer isn't. Draft Kanter then trade the 12th pick.

Large Tuna
Salt Lake City, UT

Dallas desperately needs a point guard?? The trophy they just hoisted begs to differ on that opinion...

I think the local media is keeping people's hopes up that the Jazz will draft Jimmer. I don't think it's going to happen. If he's there at 12 they'll pass on him. National media is saying there is no way they would pick him because it's too much pressure for both Jimmer and the Jazz, I agree with that it makes a lot of sense. Trade the 3 to Washington for the 6 and 18 picks, get Walker, Singleton, and Brooks.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

I have to agree with byronbca--the top 3 picks are Irving, Williams, and Kanter. I am officially on the "draft Kanter" bandwagon, after watching several highlight reels of this guy. He plays large, he has good foot movement (might need to quicken foot speed), he's pretty diverse, already, on offense, and he's not afraid of contact. He's the kind of emotional player you want on your team.

I hear people talk about a risk with his knees, but I haven't seen anything concrete about his knees. I haven't seen evidence that he has missed a substantial number of games due to injury. Prone to injury may be more smoke than substance.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

I'm not impressed with Brandon Knight enough to draft him at #3. His dribble is too high for his height. His shot is average at best, and thats considering he played on a loaded team where he didn't have to take poor shots. Unless Irving is somehow available at #3, I really don't see a PG getting drafted in the top 5/6.

Drafting Kanter at #3 opens up several options for the twelfth pick, and also opens up several trade options. Knight shuts down options at #12, and shuts down trade options.

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