What? No more false accuasations from the liberals about the "Mission
Accomplished" banner?Like I said, I told you so....
To liberal posters who deride Pres. Bush on the "Mission Accomplished"
deal...If you had done an ounce's worth of research you'd know the
"Mission Accomplished" banner was not, repeat, was NOT put up by any
staffer, etc in the Whitehouse. It was put up by the ship's crew (the USS
Abraham Lincoln) as a way of highlighting the fact that they'd just completed a
10-month deployment, the longest U.S. Navy aircraft carrier deployment since
Vietnam. Yes, Whitehouse personnel made the banner but it was at the Navy's
request (the USS Abraham Lincoln did not have the capabilities to make a banner
like this). The Secretary of Defense at the time, Don Rumsfeld, even made sure
that any 'mission accomplished-type' phrase was edited out of Bush's speech.
Call Bush a liar if you wish but even the Navy has said on numerous occasions
this is true.Again, do your own research and I'll come back later
and say 'I told you so'.
So much for staying until the job is done.So much for showing the
world that Americans are a nation of do-ers.Just remember
this....1) 50 years from now when history shows Afghanistan REALLY
started to fall apart again in the summer of 2012, don't blame George Bush.
(Well, you will anyway, forgetting entirely that it was The Clueless One, Obama,
that announced a mandatory troop reduction even before he committed the troops
to a surge.) Is that a stupid way to run a war? Why yes, Virginia, it is.2) When America experiences more and more terrorist attacks on our own
soil as a result of emboldened terrorists, remember we had a chance to fight
them across the ocean and 'bravely' decided to symbolically stick our heads in
the sand and run away.I don't like the idea of having our troops
over there any more than you do. As a matter of fact, I am one of them. But
let's at least stick around and give the Afghanis a fighting chance. We should
fight it to win and, no, America's public is not doing that.
To those who blamed Bush for getting us into war: Remember, the 9/11 terrorists
were already in the U.S. with their plans ready before he became president.
Also remember that Democrats in Congress were very vocal in support of both wars
when they authorized them. The difference is that demos wanted us out of Iraq
before the mission was complete. The surge strategy of the Bush administration
gave the new government of Iraq a chance to survive. We should not lose the
advantage we have gained over Al Qaeda by pulling out of Afghanistan before the
job is finished. Does anyone believe that the Afghani government is currently
capable of defeating Al Qaeda? Or that Al Qaeda is no longer capable of
continuing their stated wish of killing as many Americans (and other
"infidels") as they can?
I am not suggesting that we place troops in every country, because terrorists
can be found everywhere. However, it was obvious that Al Qaeda and the Taliban
(both in Afghanistan) were the most threatening of the groups. Invading
Afghanistan was the most logical step in the war on terror. What would you have
done differently? Put a want ad in Kabul and hope somebody turns in Bin
Ladin?And was not Saddam Hussein an evil tyrant? Was he not a
threat? Look at the United States since the Civil War and most, if not all, of
our wars have been mostly in the interest of establishing freedom (although WWII
and the War on Terror have more personal reasons). Americans love freedom, and
the Iraqis love their new freedom (9 out of 10 soldiers will tell you that).Have you noticed that terrorists seem to be more busy attacking our
troops and getting hold of a country than attacking US citizens? A group in
charge of a country is far more dangerous. The Nazis or Communists would not
have been big threats had they not secured hold of the German and Russian
So, conservatives, which is it? 1. Leave the troops in Afghanistan
for an indefinite amount of time so the conservatives will pout?2.
Bring the troops home from Afghanistan so the conseravtives will pout? If President Obama brought world peace and gave every person a puppy,
you guys would complain....
". . . to focus on nation building here at home." It's the one
sentence in the speech that tips us off about his naive view of evil -- he's
isolationist, or at least wants to be. The history of World War II is that we
passed through a similar period before we were compelled to snuff out Hitler's
German war machine. We sat it out, and only England was left in the Battle of
Britain before we responded. With three foreign wars raging with no end in
sight, it will be interesting to see just how isolationist we can remain on his
@Riverton CougarSo your terrorism policy would be to station US
troops in any area of the world where terrorists are hiding?
I think I'll borrow the words of my grandfather and address them to some of the
conservatives on this board who will find fault with Obama no matter what
decision he makes, "You would complain even if you were hung with a new
'I'd rather the fight be at their place than ours. What say you?' - Riverton
Cougar | 9:41 a.m. I WAS fighting at their place rather than ours. I
WAS one of those people sent to front lines. Yongson, Seoul, South
Korea. America has over 30,000 troops at any given time by the Demilitarized
Zone or DMZ by the North/South Korean boarder. It's the most heavily
fortified boarder, on earth. As such, I recognize the value of
American lives because I was THERE, close too it, first hand being lost in
pointles wars. I will concede that there will AWLAYS be war. And
yet, we are tired of it. The 'faulty inteligence' that sent us to invad not one,
but two countries wears thin on the American public. Unable to
justify an American invasion of other countries. Supported by zero
support for Libya. Osama Bin Laden is dead. If you'd
rather 'they' fight the war THERE vs. here, well guess what? We
are. Odds are we will never truly leave Afghanistan. Thanks Bush.
But tell me, when exactly, was SAVING American lives 'un-patriotic?'
Pagan,One can come to the conclusion from your post that you are
against the war on terrorism. I've got bad news for you: whether or not the
Democrats in America want to stop fighting, the terrorists will want to keep
fighting. Bringing all of our troops home is just begging for another huge
terrorist strike as big as 9/11.It's not fair to the American
civilians to make this war a defensive war. The terrorists are targeting all
American citizens, not just the military. I'd rather the fight be at their
place than ours. What say you?
No need to be in Afghanistan. Most conservative Republicans wanted and have been
calling out of Afghanistan. I don't understand the lack of unity within the
Republican party regarding this matter. Ron Paul is a happy camper.
@runwasatchStart 2 wars to earn yourself a second term. - W.The public was fooled for almost 8 years under W. Bringing
our troops home from an endless war the Republicans started sure seems like an
attempt to "fool" the public.
Finally. This war that should have been "accomplished" during the
last presidency will come to an end.Two of W's and the Republicans
messes getting cleaned up. Over 100,000 troops have come home from Iraq, and
now Afgahnistan.Thank you Mr. President. It's not easy inheriting a
tire-fire from the previous guy. Especially when his party critisizes you for
not cleaning up their messes quickly enough.
Wait. Why isn't Obama dressed up in flight suit on a aircraft carrier saying
mission accomplished? Why does it seem that everyone is mad that Obama is
sending the troops home?
One question to those against Obama. What did the previous
administration or the Republican party for that matter... do to
bring even THIS many troops...home? On my orders, the United States
military has begun strikes against al-Qaeda terrorist training camps and
military installations of the Taleban regime in Afghanistan.' - GEORGE W.
BUSH - 10/07/2001 *"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and
produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.' -
George W. Bush - Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 Even Redshirt can only
produce 'gas' WMD's. Not Nuclear. Whereas... *'Last U.S.
combat brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DSNews -
08/19/10 'Seven years and five months after the U.S.-led invasion,
the last American combat brigade was leaving Iraq, well ahead of President
Barack Obama's Aug. 31 deadline for ending U.S. combat operations there.' I know where my suport lies. It's with the person bringing our troops
HOME. Not the party that continues to send them IN.
We the people need to send this charlatan president packing, along with about
90% of the other charlatan politicians in Washington who pretend to represent
our values. Americans would be better off without these powermongers making us
look like total fools to the rest of the world.
(Pipedream... I know... but) I'd like to see the troops used to take out the
corrupt druglords in Mexico.
Wasted $$$, Wasted lifes, Long-term medical cost for Veterans, middle of the
road response from Pres Obama (the Intern President)... political decision not
based on request from congress, the American People or commanders on the ground.
I don't like people who can't take a solid stand -- the President can't and the
last on e miscued. Let's hope we elect a Leader and a Statesman in 2012. Our
country can ill afford a third pretender that echoes 'Hope' or 'Mission
Send in the troops to distract the public from real issues... Bill ClintonBring home the troops to distract the public from the real
issues...Obamathis time the public won't be fooled.Afganistan is no where near ready to defend itself... Obama is just willing to
sacrifice that country in an effort to win the election here at home.
If terrorists take over Afghanistan, Obama will take a lot of heat for it. I
just hope the war for terror in Afghanistan really is over (it should be after
nearly a decade).
i hope o tells the enemy what time, day and location we will be leaving. the guy
is a pure genius. 18 months left. hopefully we can survive until this community
organizer leaves the white house and maybe the country.....well I can hope!
Obama mentioned that we have to start 'Nation building at home.' I can hardly
wait to see what he has in mind. This guy is so in over his head.
Maybe we can use some of these returning troops to defend our borders. Let's
hope they don't make a U-turn and head to Libya.