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Brad Rock: Whomever Utah Jazz draft, he won't be a lifer

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  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    June 23, 2011 5:03 p.m.

    Only "stupid" AK want to stay in State of Utah. Loyalty nowadays does not exist.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    June 23, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    If the Jazz are smart they will draft Fredette with the 3rd pick, pure and simple. None of the other players are big-time franchise players. With players coming out early, the ongoing crop of collegiate players from draft to draft are not impact players. In addition, there is no such thing as an impact player who is a "lifer". The way this league is going, it won't be long until the players will own the owners. I hope the owners stand tough on the current impasse. The NBA, NFL, and the MLB players are way out of kilter on how much money is going to the players. I am sick and tired of these prima donas driving the cost of living up for the rest of us.

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    June 23, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    I didn't think Knight was that great of a player for Kentucky, he is skinny and small, he is Devon Harris little twin.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    @Bill... That is the Catholic Church right?

  • iluvredrock Ogden, UT
    June 23, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    what a debbie downer of an article!

  • COOL HAND LUKE Old Ephraims Grave, UT
    June 23, 2011 10:32 a.m.

    bugoff if that's the case, then maybe Cle, takes A big like Kanter, or J Va. Then we have a shot at either Iring, or Wlliams? Hmmmm We'll know tonight.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    June 23, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    I think Super Stars like Malone and Stockton stayed in Utah for a few years. They played in two NBA finals. Better than most. Players, other than Boozer, have liked living in Utah and playing for an organization that wins most of the time.

    Let's face it. How much time does a player really spend in Utah over an entire year? Maybe half of it? These players are filthy rich. They can enjoy a life of luxury wherever they live plus money goes a lot further in Utah than in NYC. The smart ones stay in Utah a get richer on less money.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 23, 2011 8:48 a.m.

    small market vs big market

    Utah vs New York

    Utah has made the playoffs more in the past decade than the Knicks, or Dallas or Miami.

    Small market teams have to coach and compete and outsmart big money players. Seems as though it can happen as San Antonio another small marekt team has won rings, all the while having a lower pay roll than the Jazz.

    Some of the elite players want to go to big cities but others don't. Lots of generalizations in this article.

  • OrlandoJazzFan Winter Springs, FL
    June 23, 2011 7:33 a.m.

    What a negative article.... It came across as a child pouting after another child takes his toys. Check out your facts too Rock... San Antonio metro area is not exactly small market (2.1 million people - 7th largest city in the US).. 2.1 mil is close to the population of the entire state of Utah.

    Just an overall bad article - you can do better

  • write4u2 Altamonte Springs, FL
    June 23, 2011 6:04 a.m.

    Dumb article. So much can happen between now and the time when the draftee is ready to sign. Speculation like this is not even worth writing about.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    June 22, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    Fredette desperately wants to go to NY. He only came to Utah to go to college.

    And seriously ... baptize them so that he'll want to stay in Utah? You'd be surprised to know that there are strong populations of the Church *outside* Utah, even in those more marketable destinations (Texas, Miami, New York, Los Angeles, Boston).

  • AZJazzFan Gold Canyon, az
    June 22, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    Yet another reason to pick Fredette at 3. He will be more likely to stay than a guy who is here for the paycheck and is obligated to do so until his contract is up.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    June 22, 2011 10:19 p.m.

    I stand by the motto "If it ain't broken, no need to fix it". Well this franchise sprung a leak and needs to be fixed. Lets hope that the rebuilding process goes as planned. This team should be a playoff team next year if we draft right and make the right moves. Good luck tomorrow night, I will be at ESA with the kids cheering for "whomever" the Jazz pick, unlike last year when I was standing around scratching my head when the Jazz announced the #9 pick Gordon Hayward. Wow,was I wrong! It's now "Air Gordon"! I hope the Jazz nail it big time tomorrow night! Good luck! Lets GO JAZZ!

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    June 22, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    @Bugoff, I guess I have something in common with Knight then, I would prefer he be drafted by Cleveland also, or anywhere but the Jazz, He's totally over rated.

  • LKA Tremonton, UT
    June 22, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    Brad always has such nice heartwarming articles full of hope. Have a good nights sleep.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    June 22, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    I'm not sold on Kanter, but if the Jazz do take the big man at 3 and Fredette at 12, they'll have the best chance at getting two players who might stay for a long time.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 22, 2011 9:46 p.m.

    Knight just indicated he would prefer to be drafted by CLE. Not sure he is all that high on staying in Utah.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 22, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    I wrote this on a post a few days ago but taking Kanter or Jonas would give the Jazz a player that may stay for 10 + yrs. Alot of Euro's are satisfied where they play and don't feel the need to leave. AK, Dirk, Ginobli, , if having the player stay long term is a desire, we need to draft a Euro.

  • sprywolf Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    That's why The NBA need to allow Teams to "Franchise" a player or 2. But Saldy I don't think they would ever do that.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    June 22, 2011 8:43 p.m.

    Want a championship ring to wear then you have to move to a big market. You are all lucky to have a quality NBA team right here in good old Utah. some people are never satisfied with what they have, even if it is the best of all worlds.

  • gizmo33 St. George, Utah
    June 22, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    NBA stars want to leave Utah ? well of course thats because they want a championship ring to wear.

  • jazzhater Humble, TX
    June 22, 2011 7:44 p.m.

    players want to leave utah....shocker

  • alandgreg Murray, UT
    June 22, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    Rock is right. But remember that we're in a group of several small market cities that can't keep their talent the way things are now. Milwaukee, Portland, San Antonio, Charlotte, New Orleans... Basicly everywhere except LA, New York, Chicago and Miami. Who wants to see them win every year? Even if you live in these cities and cheer for your team, eventually the league will loose it's credibility. I'm hoping that the new CBA they're working on will address this issue. You would think so since there are more small market owners then not. But then again, the big market owners seem to have all the money.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    June 22, 2011 7:38 p.m.

    One thing your missing Rock, nobody wants to come here, but most who do like it and want to stay. DWill would have stayed if we had put together a team with a possibility of going deep into the playoffs.

    If the NBA doesn't do something about it and continues to overlook the conspiring and collusion of the players and teams (no way you can tell me Miami wasn't in on it the way they cleared their payroll leading up to last years free agency), eventually there will 3 or 4 teams comprising the entire all star team at which point I for one will completely give up NBA basketball.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 22, 2011 7:13 p.m.

    @ Bill Shakespeare,

    Jimmer's already a member. He'd probably stay. Has family in the area.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 22, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    At least Brad got his grammar correct (Whomever vs Whoever).

    Not so much the rest.

  • TownsvilleJazzFan Townsville, Queensland
    June 22, 2011 7:09 p.m.

    The current labor discussions are not just about players' interests versus owners' maximizing their profits. They are also about getting an agreement in place that supports the long-term viability of small market teams. This is one of the logics of the hard cap, and one that I like for Utah. So I really think that player negotiation may change a fair bit after the new agreement, and however it shakes down it will be more favorable to small market teams than the current agreement is.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    June 22, 2011 5:59 p.m.

    I'd take Jimmer #3 and let the chips fall where they may. No way the guy won't play well in NBA. Almost zero risk, and maybe he'd hang around for a while.

    There is no guarantee anybody will play better than Jimmer, and his college record speaks for itself. I haven't seen anybody in the draft that is a Kobe or LeBron. Walker? Didn't impress me in the horrible NCAA final. Irving? Well he played, what, 14 games?

    Of course I really don't care what the Jazz do, but if they did pick Jimmer, I'd watch at least a few games to see what happens. Otherwise, no way.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 22, 2011 5:55 p.m.

    This is why I dislike the NBA.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    June 22, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    Rock...may be losing his touch...or is he just angry about something?

  • aljmac Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    Well, this is a depressing article for a Jazz fan. Unfortunately, I think it's more right than wrong.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    June 22, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    I can think of at least one very small market of which people desire not only to stay in and play in (even when it is winter) and that is Green Bay, smaller than Provo with no large cities close by for support.

    The reason, they build dynasties. Utah does not.

    Until the front office is first class, the team will never be first class.

    When restructuring a Corp., you do not start at the bottom and work up. You start at the top and work down.

    If everyone is open for trade, other than the Millers, then lets trade, starting at the top.

    I know, I know...you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. But the baby will never get clean if the water isn't changed some time.

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    June 22, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    Dear DesNews:
    The "NBA Highlights" video window on the Jazz page is in an incredibly annoying position. Please drop it to the bottom of the page or to the side if you feel you must have it somewhere.

  • SloanHater Farmingtown, IL
    June 22, 2011 3:57 p.m.

    What a waste of time. Rock writes that the Jazz (or any small market team) can keep an All-Star for their entire career. Then he cites Durant and Duncan who repudiate the entire basis of the article.

    Let's use some logic here. Big Market teams draw all the best talent. We can assume this makes them better. Which leaves the small markets constantly drafting high (ie the best talent). Thus small market teams are more likely to have a 'lifer' than big market teams.

  • Bill Shakespeare Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    Maybe we can get one of these fine young men to join the Church, and he'll want to stay and raise his family in Zion. I sure hope so!