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Published: Tuesday, June 21 2011 9:08 a.m. MDT

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dumprake
Washington, UT

Gays will not get Huntsman, or anyone else elected, they are an insignificant, fringe group who get publicity far beyond their significance.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

I am homosexual.
I use the term gay because it represents who I am and I find fault with others who try to associate it with political baggage.

Huntsman is a good canidate. But I cannot see his actions supporting the LGBT community.

Whereas the incumbant, Obama has:

*..ordered the Pentagon study, which supported repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell', (Dec '10)
*allowed sexual orientation to be covered under Hate Crime legislation,
*Signed the extention of the Ryan White Treatment bill for HIV for gay AND straight Americans in 2009,
*Allowed the State Department of offer same-sex benefits for employees (2009)

As I said, Huntsman is a good canidate, but when a side-by-side comparison is done Obama has simply done more for the LGBT vote than any other president to date.

Let alone Huntsman.

Huntsman should run for Hatch's seat, and run again in 2016. Heck, even EYE would vote for him then.

Until such time, Obama has run the office of the President better than any of the GOP contenders.

*'Poll: Less than half of GOP primary voters satisfied with 2012 field' - By Mark Murray - NBC News - 06/15/11

Obama 2012

Ridgely
Magna, UT

After weeks of pro-Romney novellas in the Deseret News, the headline "Jon Huntsman Jr. seeks support from Gays" is posted minutes after Huntsman formally announces his Presidential Campaign?

Wow. Subtle.

sjgf
South Jordan, UT

@dumprake:

While gays may be insignificant in their numbers, they have a lot of time and money.

Whereas heterosexuals produce children, then spend most of their time, money and energy raising their children, homosexuals have no children on which to spend their resources. They are able to spend the time and money on their cause that heterosexuals spend on raising families. As a result, they have a very loud voice in the public arena that heterosexuals cannot afford.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Gays will not get Huntsman, or anyone else elected...' - dumprake | 10:09 a.m.

Tell that to Obama 2008.

Sokol
Las Vegas, NM

I fail to see how this Demo in Republican clothing is good for anyone. I am tired of the two faced John McCain type politicians. We need someone to save the economy, reduce the deficit, restore our Constitutional rights stolen by the Courts, and enforce the issue of unalienable rights coming from God and not the government. Even my liberal friends in Taos, NM are talking about the rights coming from our creator and not selectively given by the government...No to Huntsman...

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Whereas heterosexuals produce children, then spend most of their time, money and energy raising their children, homosexuals have no children on which to spend their resources.' - sjgf | 10:29 a.m.

What a horrible and general comparison.

Should I say that Mormons 'only make babies?' Both would be incorrect.

You have not been paying attention.

According to the Child Welfare Information Gateway, between 8 and 10 million children are being raised by gay parents.

*'Lesbian Utah legislator carrying baby for gay couple' - SLtribune - 01/08/10

'...Rep. Christine Johnson, D-Salt Lake, at her home on Friday, is 16 weeks pregnant. Johnson is acting as a surrogate for a gay Salt Lake County couple, her close friends, after they expressed frustration with the difficulty of adopting a child in Utah.'

*'Single mothers less accepted than gay parents, report says' - By Marjorie Cortez - DSNews - 03/17/11

"In most ways, the accumulated research shows, children of same-sex parents are not markedly different from those of heterosexual parents."

- AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS (AAP)
- 'Coparent or Second-Parent Adoption by Same-Sex Parents' - POLICY STATEMENT - PEDIATRICS Vol. 109 No. 2 February 2002, pp. 339-340 - Pulished: 02/01/10

J. Adams
Sandy, UT

predictable

ThePinkFloydian
Bountiful, UT

I am strait, dont discriminate, and patriotic. I believe in equal rights not special rights. Ron Paul is getting my vote no matter what. If a gay man wants to marry his boyfriend I have no problem with it. Just leave my religious beliefs alone and I leave you alone. Keep government out of it. Democrats and Republicans have wasted too many of our tax dollars over this issue. I choose Libertarian and I choose freedom.

isrred
Logan, UT

"Gays will not get Huntsman, or anyone else elected, they are an insignificant, fringe group who get publicity far beyond their significance."

Such a politically illiterate statement. Follow. The. Money.

bigsoccer
Syracuse, UT

Huntsman won't even be top two canidate, he will lose to Romney and Paul

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'So you find fault with the HRC, Equality Utah, Get equal, GLAA, etc?' - Counter Intelligence | 12:07 p.m.

Are they acknowledging homosexuality and trying to paint it in a positive light? Trying to get the LGBT equal rights, or none at all?

I know where my support lies.

It belongs with those who are not ashamed of what they are.

And do not try to keep 'religion' out of something that has had over 1000 legal goverment protections they covet...

since around the 1960's.

That is an evident, double standard.

Your not even TRYING to rebute my points about what Obama has accomplished. Only that those groups are trying to promote equality, like PFLAG are 'bad' because they say 'gay.'

I doubt you are truly gay CI, though of course I have no way to prove it one way or another.

Perhaps you are simply pretending to be a LGBT person to try and villify them?

Lies to try and villify opposition have been used before...

An example:

*'3 sent to prison in beating of DJ Bell, another sentenced to jail' - By Emiley Morgan - Published by DSNews - 05/23/11

DRay
Roy, UT

Sorrow of the damned, (progress-stopped), is that they do not sorrow for their sins, only that they cannot sin and still have God's approval...GLBT cause is just wrong...they play on the sympathy of people for their plight, in a pure act of sophestry to get support. If Huntsman gives in to that sympathetic sophestry, he shows a weakness our President should not have. We love the people, but abhor the sin. We do not give in to the ways of sin, nor seek to accomodate those ways.

IDmom
Murray, UT

@Pagen, can you not love your child but hate some of his/her sins? Thats not being hypocritical - its being honest and having an unconditional love.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan/Pagen

Huntsman isn't going to get the nomination and so there's no need worrying about whether or not he supports homosexuals. Its a moot issue.

George
Bronx, NY

@dumprake
So gays make up roughly the same percentage of the population as people that are LDS that also get a lot of publicity and are (also unfairly) considered nothing but a fringe group by many people. So I have to ask do you apply the same logic to LDS people or just those small groups you do to agree with? The point is even if a group (LDS or LGBT or...) only make up a small part of society they have the right to have their voice heard.

Rick for Truth
Provo, UT

As you exercise your American franchise to vote, voice out and choose our leaders you help perpetuate the American dream. You are free to vote for and support any candidate of your choice. In addition, you may show your displeasure and non-support for any candidate that you disagree with. The many problems we all face is evaluating how much we agree with or disagree with a particular candidate given the limited amount of data and information made available to us to make a decision with. Collect positional information on policies, past practices, positions on issues, and try to avoid decisions on commercials and bumper sticker statements like Hope and Change. Study and yes even pray about your vote.

IDmom
Murray, UT

We are all sinners. To say that we are all perfect is stupid. I love my child no matter what. THAT is the very definition of unconditional love.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

dumprake | 10:09 a.m. June 21, 2011
Washington, UT
Gays will not get Huntsman, or anyone else elected, they are an insignificant, fringe group who get publicity far beyond their significance.

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What a bigotted statement there dumprake.
If it is true, it would apply thus:

[MORMONS, Blacks, Hispanics, the elderly, the Jews, ect.] will not get Huntsman, or anyone else elected, they are an insignificant, fringe group who get publicity far beyond their significance.

So how that works?

Blaine
Cedar City, UT

Romney and Hunstman, like McCain, are liberals in conservative clothing. They appeal primarily to the liberal voter. If the Republican party nominates either of these two men, Obama will win. These two should really be running as Democrats. As such, they have a chance of beating Obama in the primaries. What they, and their supporters, fail to realize is that the liberal segment of America will vote for Obama unless he is defeated in the primaries. If Republicans are to win the Whitehouse, they must nominate a true Republican -- one whose values, history, and behavior solidly mirror the traditional Republican party platform and values. Neither Romney nor Huntsman fit that description.

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