@atl134I commend you for not making agreements you are not ready to
keep. It is a serious thing that we do in the temples and it is not to be taken
lightly. I'm sorry that you got your information from the internet. That
information is presented by bitter people who have no interest in being
objective. By the way, this has to be Newsweek's first sell out in
years. Nobody reads it anymore.
"They are not secret, they are sacred. "They're still
generally kept secret. If you aren't discussing it, you're still keeping it
secret. Believing it is sacred is your reason for keeping it secret. "You can read the whole thing on the Internet just as it is in the
temple"Yeah, I know. I've done that. As an LDS member
(inactive) I wanted to know what was in it so I did that under the premise of my
not wanting to someday get into the temple and have to do the equivalent of
signing a contract without having plenty of time to think it over first.
Oops, I meant to say "hair," I'm offering my faith and hair for
ridicule. If Mitt can fix the mess and save the world it's worth it. I'm sure
someone else could have explained what I really meant, but I'm guessing there's
another article where activists and other anti-Mormons are busily setting the
world straight about what Mormons really believe (Mormons don't actually know
what they believe, they just believe it, this is why active Mormons are often
not cunsulted on what Mormons believe) so he might be busy....; )
Go get baptized and live correct for about 6-12 months and get a temple
recommend so you can see for yourself. I didnt say it would be easy, i
only said it would be worth it.Todays society wants answers instantly,
without following the lords instructions.
I hesitated to vote for Mittster, until I read this article. It's got so bullys
can't pick on anyone anymore, except redheads and Mormons. And, as a redheaded
Mormon I'm going to do my part to keep vitriol alive in America. I'm voting for
Mitt and offering my faith and religion for ridicule. TaipeiModerate
loved the comment, be careful though, similar shenanigans with gay activists got
my IP banned from the Tribune....
atl34Many of you have a hard time with this. They are not secret, they are
sacred. That simply means we do not talk about the details of the ordinances or
the revelation we receive in conjunction with the ordinances with anyone. You
can read the whole thing on the Internet just as it is in the temple, but that's
not the experience. The experience is mantic. We don't discuss our thoughts,
feelings, impressions, or revelations about them with members,
non-members--anyone outside of the temple. It is to be an experience between us
and God alone. Because you can read it all or read it to each other, you are
able to be as un-secret a you wish about the ordinances. We promise to keep them
sacred to ourselves. Sacred, not secret.
"Also, our Temple services are sacred and private, not secret."They're secret. You may use different words but if you don't want to
share it with other people... it's still secret. You consider it sacred, that's
why you keep it secret, but that doesn't change the fact that it's secret.
I can't wait for the Newsweek article making fun of Islam.My guess
is though I will be waiting......and a long time too. Because if they did
Islamic extremists would likely bomb their news headquarters and slaughter them
all.Newsweek never misses an opportunity to take aim at the mormons
and make fun of their religion though. How many articles is this now about the
mormons in newsweek?Somehow I think a religion that literally has
millions that support suicide bombers and slaughtering of anyone who does not
believe in Islam warrants more more press than the innocuous quirky mormons.Newsweek has a job to do right now though with a potential conservative
mormon trying to run for president.They and the rest of the media
will do their best to tear down a religion that believes "....in being
honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men...
".Only makes sense right?
There's no such thing as an unbiased article, but trying to write
"fairly" about religion or politics is almost impossible.
I really don't care. Those who are really interested in the Church will figure
things out. I do wish "journalists" would be more accurate though.
Well, of course, the Mormon Newsweek sold out!Most Mormon families are
large with several children, grandparents, great grandparents,,, aunts, uncles,
nieces, nephews, grandkids, great grandkids, and missionaries in far off
places!You know each family had to get extra copies!There you
go...........It's similar to how all the ice cream and soda sells out so
fast here in Utah
Why are Utah Mormons so defensive?Show the world who and what you
are and quit whining about every little crack in the sidewalk. Those tiny cracks
are not Mt Everest.
I think some of us LDS like to think because we have made peace with all our
warts, that all the world should have to as well. Yes, the temple ceremony is
sacred, but when other people aren't allowed in, that is, by definition, a
secret. A secret that everyone who is willing can know, but a secret
nonetheless. Let's face it, which religion is treated 'fairly'? Atheists and
agnostics live in a country where "In God We Trust" is printed on the
money, so everyone has a claim to being treated unfairly, the trick is to
recognize that, and grow a little thicker skin.
I have always thought mitt would lose. Now that obamee struck a deal with google
for advertising i really think its bad news.
quiet frankly, my dear, I just don't give a darn.
Lighten up. Any publicity is good publicity. If you
create a stereotype don't be surprised if someone exploits it. A bunch of young
men dressed exactly alike with exactly the same message couldn't be anything
I agree with Owlmaster - I thought the article was well done. At least better
that most other LDS news articles out there.
I love this cover. It reminds me of the cover they made about four years ago
about African Americans when Obama ran for president entitled "The Black
Moment" with a picture of Obama's head splayed onto the body of a Crypt
holding a handgun in Inglewood. When the writer was reached for comment he said,
"Whats a little criticism, if blacks can't take this, they will hate to see
how bad it gets for them when Obama is elected president," thereafter
everyone chuckled mightily.
Love the attention, but was hoping they would get it right this time : ) Guess
that aint gonna happen. I agree that "This ain't nothing
compared to some of the vitriol the LDS Church will face if Romney/Huntsman
actually IS elected." But we are used to vitriol, we face it always. In
Utah we are blamed for everything that anyone doesn't like (from the weather to
people not neutering dogs, all the Mormons' fault : )). On a World level Im
not so sure it would be good to have us blamed for everything....but if Mitt can
fix the mess, he'll get my vote. Just tell him to do some reading on FAIR lds
first. And tell him not to be a coward, like some. Stand for who you are. Stand
for truth. No flips this time.
They are right though if Romney becomes president it would create a highly
interesting situation for the church and public affairs.
Sorry sprywolf 8:11pm June 17., I disagree.I feel the article was
very well written. It is one of the better pieces put out there on Mormons in
does anyone really expect news week to print an article that is honest, fair,
and unbiased??We see the liberal media now beginning its attack on
the the candidates of the right.Can you imaging the uproar if
Obama's head was place on the body of an actor from Uncle Tom's Cabin?
As as an active LDS member. I felt the artical wasn't completely fair or
accurate. The Show Big Love should have not been included with the article.
The LDS church doesn't currently practice polygamy. Also, our Temple services
are sacred and private, not secret. Also claiming that one of the
"quirky" aspects of our religion is "magic spectacles" is
silly. simular items were used in the Bible. There are many misconceptions
about our Religion, I don't thinnk this article did much to change that.