No one talks about it "Long Term" because physical attributes don't
always transfer to the game of basketball. Favors is literally half the player
6 small forwards brought in to work out on Sunday? The Jazz are taking Brandon
Knight at #3. Barring a trade, they'll take the SF they like best in this
Use the 3rd pick to take Knight/Kanter and use the 12 as trade bait with Harris,
Millsap, or Jefferson. The Jazz could pick up a good wing like A.I. or Danny
Granger and any of those pieces the Jazz can afford to lose with Knight taking
Harris' place, Favors already the PF for the future, and Kanter seeming to be a
very similar player to Big Al.
DraftDummie: The OKC model or the Boston Celtic model is to get as many talented
young players as possible and then you have options, you can keep them if things
work out well or you can do like Boston did and use them to get good top notch
players like Ray Allen and Garnett. The only way Boston got those guys was
because they had drafted good young players and had high draft picks to use in
trades. Besides, getting players to agree to a trade that would bring them to
Utah isn't a sure thing and FA's aren't breaking down the Jazz door, drafting is
the best way we can get good players.
The OKC rebuilding model has only worked a few times--and OKC had a lot of luck
in picking good draft picks, with only one clunker of a pick in the last few
years in Jeff Green, and OKC was able to trade Green to Boston for a pretty good
defensive center. More often, if a team gets to be too young, it becomes the LA
Clippers model, the Boston Celtics model (from the early '90s until about 4-5
years ago), the '90s Dallas Maverick model (when Jason Kidd was a young player),
the Minnesota Timberwolves model, or the the Chicago Bulls model from about 1998
through 2009. Young teams just don't win.The Jazz have a chance to
work some good young veterans in with the youngsters, so that the losing seasons
can be limited. After next year, I for one want the Jazz to return to being
perennial playoff contenders, and eventually championship contenders again.The only thing that might require the Jazz to dump veteran players might
be a hard salary cap under the new CBA. However, I doubt things will change
much--the NBA has always allowed big market teams to horde good players.
bigutefan Jimmer, the National Player of the Year, will be playing
on alot of Sundays, regular season and in the playoffs. The group which is
working out Sundays has no National awards between them, yet would still be
greater in skills and talents than any current of future team from the hill.
@bigutefanStay in Vegas. How about big UNLV fan?
The Jazz should have made Jimmer work out on Sunday. The talent level is closer
to his limited abilities, and it would just be funny that they had him play on
the special day of Sunday.
Why don't we feel like Jefferson Favors has the potential to be championship
caliber frontline? (It seems like everyone thinks we need a massive center)Ford says Favors would be hands down #1 pick this year. If We draft B
Knight and hope that he can be a Chauncy Billups and Hayward can reach his
potential we are an excellent SF away from the most (raw) talent we have ever
had. I like the chances of Favors, Hayward and Knight being very
good. They all have excellent talent and work extremely hard.
Here's another interesting point. Did you know that Derrick Favors and Dwight
Howard have almost identical measurements?Any Guesses who is who?Height w/o ShoesHeight w/shoesWeightWingspanStanding ReachBody FatNo Step
VertMax VertBench6' 9" 6' 10.25" 2407'
4.5" 9' 3.5" NA30.5 35.5 7Height w/o ShoesHeight w/shoesWeightWingspanStanding ReachBody FatNo
Step VertMax VertBench 6' 8.75" 6' 10.25"
245 7' 4" 9' 2" 6.5 31.5 35.5
14Favors is the second set of numbers. He did
have the advantage of 1 year of college which explains his better strength and
vertical, but why doesn't anyone talk about this?
To Jazz Source. I agree we need veterans with good locker room
presence. I don't believe we need to trade for them though. Shane Battier is a
free agent. Perfect fit. There are others I am sure. I say follow the
Thunder's example. Let the kids play and get the right one or two guys (We
already have Bell, Earl Watson, Millsap who fit that mold.) and let the kids
play. I say we pick up the option on CJ and get something (even a 2nd round
pick) from a team like Minnesota who he scored 40 on last year or a contender
who may think he could fill a bench role as offense off the bench. I like AK, but he will always be injured 25% of the time and hasn't worked
hard enough to improve his game/body. I don't want the new guys to think that's
what we want.
I totally believe the Jazz intend to give big minutes to Favors and Hayward.
Evans will be a backup role player in the NBA.The last thing we need
is more young unproven players. I think you need to trade at least one of the
picks and bring in some good veterans to run the locker room and teach these
young guys good habits.My biggest fear is that Al Jeffersons
defensive efforts will rub off on Favors. If anyone learned
anything by watching this years playoffs it should be that every player has to
be committed in defense and to rotating to help. When one lousy lazy player
(Boozer) won't then other players say to themselves "why bother because
nobody will help if I help" and then it collapses.Miami and
Dallas defense was endless and hard working and it was the reason they got where
they did.Get rid of all the defensive weak links and start with the
It was only a couple of years ago that the Oklahoma City Thunder won only 20
games with a promising young man named Kevin Durant on the team. They let him
play and develop and now they are contenders. The Jazz need to do the same with
Favors. It's his time. My opinion is that the Jazz should get
whatever young studs they feel can make the biggest impact on the team. Then
pair those young guys up with Hayward, Evans, and Favors and let them play. I
don't care if it takes a 20-win season to let these young men develop. Favors
is a future superstar if he puts in the work. Hayward has all the tools to be a
solid starter in the league. Evans makes almost no mistakes. His player
efficiency rating is as high as many NBA stars. He's the perfect role player.
Now find the best young talent available and put them on the court.
The Kemba, Jimmer workout had more hype, but this one could be just as good, and
I think it's more likely to yield a future Jazz player.
Jazz should go young, start a fresh, the new cba is going to hurt, and we could
be in a position to get a good player via trade down the track from the teams
that do get hurt by the new agreement.This is not the best draft by
a log shot , but there are some good role players that have the hunger &
will to play.
If the Jazz get a good small forward in the draft (Thompson,Singleton) say bye
bye to CJ smiles. He doesn't fit the Jazz' new model-smart hard working with a
high BB IQ anyway. I think the Jazz are seriously thinking about turning this
roster over to the younger players. Next year's draft should be loaded. A couple
of more high lottery selections and you would have a great start to a new
exciting team under a new CBA. Memo's expiring contract could also be a huge
asset under the new CBA?
I say good riddance to especially CJ Miles and if they keep AK, sign him only to