These comments, and the article, and virtually all articles like this never
address one fact:WHY are people overweight/obese?? Yes, they eat too
much-----but the REAL QUESTION should be focused on WHY do they eat too much?
I have read in several places that food is seriously much more
effective than drugs in dampening down the caustic feelings of anxiety in those
with chemical imbalances and anxiety illnesses.For those who's high
metabolism/genetic make-up can take over-eating for these conditions, it is the
patient's preferred treatment, because it works so well. Those who gain weight
with this tact often end up on anti-depressants (and an accompanying new set of
risks), or end up very heavy, or obese.If science really wanted to
understand, they'd stop hacking at symptomatic branches--they would figure out
the underlying root cause and reasons WHY food works so well on many
emotional/mental conditions. And why what it fixes makes risking/or
being fat better than not having those things fixed by the serotonin highs from
eating too much (or the wrong things). No carrots or celery etc has the power to
do it. Wrong things being studied.
The only disease about obesisty is doctors profiteering off of the adulteration
of our food supply by chemical companies.Obesity in the US is not a
product of calories, or quantities, its about food adulteration, especially in
the food for the masses, preservation, and genetic modification so that our body
cannot cope with all the ever changing chemicals and adulterations. Meat is
poisoned with growth hormones to speed up and enlarge animals like chickens,
pork, and beef to the point that we too are getting enlarged by growth hormones
and genetic modified meats.Many countries, including Europe and 3rd
world poor nations have banned food and grains from the US as unfit for human
consumption. Yet here we are being force fed this concoction of chemicals and
adulterated food genes and we wonder why water is making us fat. Doctors don't
care, they are making money from abnormal obesity and confusing all americans
with lies and deceptions so they can prescribe a pill, also made by 3M and
Monsanto, to make you skinny(?).
Obesity is not only a life style it is a result of adulteration of the foods
with chemicals and drugs they are eating and the body has no defense for
them.The only reason it is classified as a disease by the medical
profession is so they can charge the insurance companies a huge medical cost to
profit from what others are causing. Everything has become a disease for this
reason, medical exploitation of insurance companies. The medical services in the
country are falsifying and creating issues that are not diseases but lifestyles
or chemically caused poisoning of the humans.Obesity is chemically
induced and medically exploited as a disease. For decades the doctors and
chemical companies have known how devastating chemicals have become to the
health and lives of the American people and fight in court all efforts to have
them exposed. The courts, FDA, and health organizations all receive reports of
chemical poisoning of our lives but they don't have the power or funding to take
on the chemical companies of 3M and Monsanto, the real offenders of poisoning
the American population.
How interesting to read these comments.... has anyone ever considered the
consequences of what we are doing to our food chain???? I believe the government
needs to stop regulating what we eat and focus on what they have the farmers
grow, the chemicals used to grow the food and change the genetic matter of the
fruits and vegetables produced that have been commonplace for several years! Not
long ago I read an article about GM (genetically modified)seeds being sent to
other countries. Supposedly it was to ward off insects/disease but the makeup of
the seeds were altered and they would not reproduce so the buyers would have to
purchase new seed every year! Then the European countries but a ban on buying
our GM seeds!!! I believe we have too many chemicals in our foods, hormones in
our meats, antibiotics in our dairy and meat, and who knows what else! Let's go
back to true organic farming.... I believe this would solve a lot of our health
problems and the obesity health concerns.
Forget the BMI, use percent body fat!Our insurance reduces our premiums
when our bady fat is within a healthy range. makes sense! so if you are over
fat you should pay more in insurance. will solve the problem quickly! i
lost 30 pounds and it's worth $400 a month for our insurance!
Obesity is NOT a disease except in rare cases,When I was a child in
elementary school, to see a fat kid was rare indeed,nowdays you go
any elemetary school you find many many chubby children, the
cause?sedentary lifestyle, they are spending all their time in front
of computers and game consoles, and eating pre-prepared foods and
having more access to soda pops and other junk food.Heck, just being
active and eating less pre-prepared foods and junk foods, smaller portions, I
have lost over 20 pounds in just a couple of months.It really mostly
comes down to being active and to diet.Only in rare circumstances
do people have health-related caused obesity.
The BMI is flawed, as Regina pointed out. I have been "obese" my
whole life, yet, I was a college athlete and go to the gym daily. However, we
as a nation are fat. Whether it is a genetic disease or a lifestyle is not the
issue as far as I'm concerned. If it is a disease, you still shouldn't be
pounding twinkies and donuts for snacks, or chocolate bars twice a day. Most
obese people are that way because of their diet. If you are genetically
inclined to be obese, you should eat healthier than someone who isn't, for the
simple fact that you will live a longer, healthier life that way.
Obesity is a disease, alright, but a disease of the mind! To lose weight, one
must be motivated because of fear of illness or a desire to look better, and
must exercise, and must eat fewer calories than those expended. I know, because
I hate exercise and love to eat, but still have managed to lose (so far) 50 lbs
(10 more to go). I count calories, eat pretty much any kind of food within my
calorie limit, and exercise aerobically for an hour every day. No fad (i.e.,
low-carb) diets. Simple.
According to the BMI, virtually all men playing basketball in the NBA are
overweight and virtually all men playing football in the NFL are obese. But are
YOU going to tell them that?
Just because BMI is an imperfect/incomplete measure doesn't mean that American's
aren't fat. We are. Most people (not all) that have a BMI of over 25 really are
overweight and are just fooling themselves by attacking the number.But, regarding the article, I think it's pretty obvious that some people are
naturally more prone to obesity than others. So, in the same sense that
alcoholism is a disease, so is obesity. But, that doesn't remove personal
responsibility. We all have our issues to overcome. Trying to blame genetics,
society, the government, or McDonalds is a cop out.
I think it starts off as a lifestyle. Too many calories in and not enough
energy output. Extremely unhealthy eating habits. At some point food becomes
addictive and/or a source to numb whatever emotional pain someone is numbing
(and oftentimes that emotional pain is due to being overweight). Maybe this is
the disease part that some people are describing. Child endangerment or child
neglect should include a parent feeding their child (or permitted their child to
eat) too much food to the point where the child is obese.
I can't prove it, but my hunch is that people who eat enough fresh GREEN veggies
every day are much less likely to be obese. For our systems to work right, we
must (MUST!) eat fresh greens daily.
It's a lifease.
Lancet, in 2006, reported that researchers from the Mayo Clinic College of
Medicine found that patients with a low BMI had a higher risk of death from
heart disease than those with normal BMI. At the same time overweight patients
had better survival rates and fewer heart problems than those with a normal
BMI." Maria Grazia Franzosi from the Instituto Mario Negri in
Milan, writing in the same issue of the Lancet, noted "BMI can definitely
be left aside as a clinical and epidemiological measure of cardiovascular
risk.BMI was developed by a mathematician somewhere between 1830 and
1850 (yes that is 1800s). The Mayo Clinic, and others, has said that BMI is not
a valid indicator of heart disease. So is obesity really a problem? That is
far from being definitively decided, but the media band wagon, along with
activist politicians, seem to continue to trumpet a false indicator, which in
turn encourages government to improperly intervene in our private lives. (San
Francisco has banned happy meals, a LA school district banned chocolate milk,
and Congress has required calories be posted on menus.) It is time for
government to to let us live our own lives.
It's not about eating in the right or wrong combinations...it's really just a
simple math problem...calories in minus calories out.
Obesity is strictly a matter of constant grazing and overeating, plus eating
foods in the wrong combinations. Proper eating according to the experts in the
know consists of eating foods in the proper order. Mornings: eating fruits and
fresh juices in any reasonable quantities. Lunch and dinner. Eating proteins
and veggies or eating carbohydrates and veggies; not eating carbos, proteins and
veggies all in the same meal. Check this out.
BMI is full of it anyways, myself am naturally not going to be what my BMI is, I
can still look and feel good above the BMI, if I were at my BMI, I would look
sickly and way toooo skinny.
It's too many calories, regardless of lifestyle. Cut calories, you WILL over
time lose weight...
"Every hour children play video games or watch television may double their
risk of obesity, a new study suggests."That is mathematically
illiterate. Think about it.This is what you get when you ask skinny
people and English teachers about obesity.
When I see an overweight couple with overweight kids, I'm always guessing it is
probably lifestyle. Far too much food, far too much sitting, and far too little
exercise - all shared as a family. Kids in that situation are really put behind
the eight ball as far as leading a healthy lifestyle goes.
Obesity is also a statistical and cultural artifact. The formula for
calculating obesity is called the body mass index. The calculation is weight
divided by height squared (w/h2). The United States adopted the the
international BMI threshold of 25 in 1998. A quick glance at a BMI chart shows
straight lines, not the normal distribution curve that scientists usually use to
show statistical realities.BMI ignores important differences like
body type and body fat percentage.A reasonable person might ask why
our government and media give so much importance to a measurement that lacks
scientific rigor. I wonder about it every time I see an article like this. I
still don't know the answer.(My facts can be checked by searching
for "body mass index history" on any search engine."