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Published: Wednesday, June 15 2011 5:10 p.m. MDT

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WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

Knight should have worked out a day or two before Jimmer. Now, unless he shows things I'd not expect from someone so inexperienced, he's likely been Jimmered.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

Corbin liked Kanter. He was surprised by Jimmer's quickness. KOC was not as he had scouted him before.

After watching Kemba's interview and also understanding that Kemba's style in his first 2 years was different I am warming to him a little.

Knight still has to be considered the best PG of the 3. Some indicate he is going to be as good or better than Irving. Since both Knight and Irving are freshman it is difficult to compare them to a Jr and Sr. Those years of experience make a lot of difference.

I would like to see Jimmer play in Utah. However, at this point I am confident the Jazz will get a good player at 3. They will also get a decent player at 12.

If they want Jimmer they may need to make a move up from 3 or down from 12. On the other hand they may like Knight or Kanter/Williams better at 3 and just take BPA at 12.

They may be ambivalent about Jimmer. They are not working/observing most of the players mocked round 12. Top 7 players, Euros, Jimmer and a bunch of late rounders.

BluCoug
Provo, UT

It's just a formality...

Bugoff
Houston, TX

More specifically Kanter, Knight, Kemba, Morris and Jimmer (ranked at 7 in some mocks). Someone help me is there any others who are ranked 12 or higher working out for the Jazz. The also looked at Euros.

Are they counting on either Jimmer or Morris at 12? Do they plan on a Euro falling? Do they have a trade in place to insure they get Jimmer? Are they relying on game video for any others?

Something is a bit strange with this workout pattern.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

I get the impression from KOC that he has already made up his mind that he does not want Jimmer for whatever reasons. He is "used to the Boos", "he already knows whats coming". That was part of one of his very indirect answers on about drafting Jimmer. You can watch the video interview and draw you own conclusions.

Which Morris Twin did they bring in? Was he the so called SF Markieff? That is a big reach at 12. Jimmer is the only other player who was in the 12 range they worked out.

Brooks is not coming (rumor). He would also be a reach at 12.

If Jimmer goes at 7 then Vesley could drop to 12 (internet source) as he does not fit until the Jazz? Biyombo could also drop. Valanciunas should not drop that far but still has buyout problems. Motie has been dropping away from 12.

It really is starting to look like the Jazz draft a Euro at 12.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

Just to make sure I heard KOC right I went back and watched his interview again. Either he is really covering (blowing a smoke screen) any intention to draft Jimmer extremely well or he has already decided based on 4 years of game film that he is not going to draft Jimmer.

I think he has narrowed the 3 pick down to Kanter and Knight or possibly Williams if something quirky happens.

At 12 He is going big and probably Euro. Maybe Jimmer if he is still there and the right Euro is not.

Anonigma
Murray, UT

I have a strong feeling the Jazz are taking Kanter at 3.
Anytime KOC talks, you can tell how much he loves athletic big guys (the man gave away his All Star PG for Favors!)and if Kanter did as good in the combine as people say he did, then Kanter is KOC's man.

Then, what happens?
Is Jimmer for Utah? His attitude certainly fits. Jazz need star power more than anything, but the Kings will take him at 7. I guess it depends on how badly Utah wants him and what they think of Paul Milsap's or Big Al's future with the Jazz.

Freddette, Hayward, Favors, Kanter

Is that the future lineup they want? On paper that looks very good...big size advantage at the 2,4,and 5 spots.

Kakashi
Tokyo, Japan

@Bugoff

Shelvin Mack a late first round pick was also invited...i think...its still early..im sure there would be more workouts to come...some of the players...would probably drop...

bigsoccer
Syracuse, UT

Dont draft Kanter, he is going to be a wash.

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

Anyone who says that they know what KOC and the Jazz are thinking are just crazy. Not only is KOC notorious for keeping a tight lip (nobody saw the AJ or DWill trades coming) but because there is no consensus #3 there are probably 5 or six player in play at the 3, and just as many at the 12.

Most mocks have the Jazz taking knight at 3, but even they will admit that they have no clue. Personally I don't see much of a difference between Knight, Kemba, and Jimmer, if the Jazz feel the same way, then they probably will go for a big.

I don't know who the jazz should or will take, but regardless of who it is I'm not going to boo the pick like I did last year. The Jazz have done really well with their lottery picks as of late and I think they'll get the best players available this year too.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

@Kakashi Jimmer and Kemba are supposed to be done. Jimmer may workout at Houston? They are always capable of moving up.

CLE appears to be broadening their workouts and claim they may take Williams at 1 and Knight at 4 (if available). I have heard nothing about CLE taking Kemba at 4. They are working out Leonard. There is an outside chance CLE takes Williams and goes big at 4. CLE would then trade for an established PG. However, they are stuck with Barron Davis anyway.

Rubio has signed with MN but has to negotiate his buyout (ESPN as I recall).

IF Williams is gone at 1, Kanter may go at 2 or MN will trade. That might send Irving to the Jazz? Or MN will grab Irving and trade him.

Unless SAC plans on trading Thorton or Evans I do not see them taking Jimmer at 7. They could trade Udrih and get by for the lock out year. They need a DISTRIBUTIVE PG.

The WIZ want Kanter and need a rebounding big. The Jazz could trade down.

The Jazz need shooting guards and to replace AK. At 3 they have bigs and PGs.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

Big AL averaged 19 points and 10 rebounds last year. Only Howard, Griffin, Love and ZBo had 19 or more points and 10 or more rebounds. If he improves his efficiency he is an elite Big.

Millsap was 17 and 8.

The Jazz NEED shooting/defending guards and to replace AK (assuming he leaves).

Harris averaged 15 points and 7 assists. Paul had 16 and 10 and Nash had 15 and 11. IF Harris could raise his assists by 3 and improve his shooting efficiency he would be an elite PG. He is already in the top 10 statistically based on points and assists. Just knowing the offense should help some.

How bad do the Jazz need a big or a PG?

Vesley is very high risk to replace AK and does not shoot that well nor defend the perimeter. In the latest consensus draft the actual shooting SG/SFs are lower than the 12th pick.

However, in a lock out year you go BPA and then trade existing players later as the new talent develops?

The Jazz could trade down? There is a case for taking Jimmer on shooting alone if you can get him at 12.

Jazz Source
Alpine, UT

Draft Express re: Kanter

"This lack of experience shows up first and foremost on the defensive end, where Kanter was incredibly ineffective in the film we watched. His fundamentals, instincts and positioning leave a lot to be desired. He can often be found standing straight up in the paint with his arms down, putting in little to no effort. He rarely boxes out his opponent and generally looks disinterested in anything that has to do with defense. He rarely bends his knees and often fails to get back in transition--doing very little to protect the paint when he does."

"While it's not unheard of to see high school players competing in this nature, there's no question that man to man defense is an area that will be a major transition for him at the NBA level, something the coaching staff of the team that drafts him must be prepared for. It's tough to know how much of Kanter's lack of effort is a product of environment and how much is simply a personality trait. If it's personality based, that's more of a concern. Would a high motor player allow himself to be exposed in this manner?"

Jazz-Nation
Lehi, UT

I think that KOC will be screening some very good offers from teams like Washington, who are going to try and move up. No matter what happens, this Jazz team is going to improve.

I doubt that the Jazz will use the 3rd pick on Kanter. Matt Harpring said that Kanter's foot work needs help, and that anyone with a basketball IQ will be able to see his flaws.

The X-factor is the 10 million dollars and final year of Memo's contract. I have heard KOC say that he does not think Memo will come back. What does that mean? Will he be part of a draft day trade scenario?
I think the Jazz realize that Raja Bell is on the decline, could he be moved?
Nobody in this draft will take minutes away from Big Al, Milsap,and Favors, which makes a very good front line in the NBA. We need some shooters that can hit jumpers, create off the dribble and get inside the paint, and things should open up for the bigs down low.

I would bring back Fesenko and Miles for one more year and look at next years draft/FA's for the center.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

Why do fans fear taking a big man at #3? The memory of Ostertag haunts you that much? If you don't draft one, where are you going to get one? Did you not see Nowitzki (a big man) tear up the Finals?

Coug fans would have KOC's head, but I'd like to see the Jazz trade down the Jimmer rights to New York (where Jimmer would rather play) or to Indiana (where they could use his ticket sales).

President Joker
Washington, DC

whatsinitforme

Derrick Rose also didn't work out with other players. This is not an act of cowardice. This it to insure a player doesn't get hurt and have it effect their draft stock. Look how it turned out for Derrick Rose. MVP in his 3rd year. He will Jimmer will be the one getting Jimmered in the NBA.

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

Me thinks the Joker is gonna get Jimmered.

And I was just razzing about Knight getting Jimmered. The Jazz brass are smart enough to evaluate players.

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