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Published: Saturday, June 11 2011 1:00 p.m. MDT

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I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

We are either in danger of creating a rhetoric of "LDS Gospel of Success and Prosperity," or we already have.

Not good.

Independent
Henderson, NV

Success and prosperity aren't good?

Every political conflict in history has ultimately been about success and prosperity. Politics is about who gets what. A religion comes along that shows how to acheive those things for all, without conflict, and we're supposed to hide it? Is the promise that "inasmuch as ye keep my commandments, ye shall prosper in the land" just empty rhetoric, or does it actually mean something? I think it is a very powerful message to say that you can prosper without lying, cheating, stealing, or fighting wars. We should share it with anyone and everyone who will listen.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

I think the critics of the church create enough rhetoric of the church, it's belief and it's members.

At least this isn't a bad stereotype to have.

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

Mormonism may be on the way to being selected for examination under the magnifying glass. I doubt this will be good publicity or politics for the church.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

We have been told by our prophets that the time has come for the Church to come out of obscurity. That time is upon us. We are always taught to work hard, become educated and be productive contributors and leaders in society. There is nothing negative about the rest of the world finding out about this. Only members who never miss a chance to find fault and criticize will find something negative in this.

ExDixieIte
Salt Lake City, UT

After looking at the artwork it makes me wonder how P-O'd many people would be if the cover featured a Chinese man draping himself in the Stars and Stripes? Flags of ALL nations should be respected.

@Charles
the greater outdoors, UT

@IMLDS2: who is the "we" in your declaration?

@sergio: it has been since 1820. Nothing new here.

It's great that people are being profiled in these types of articles.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

Soon the whole world may convert over....and those of us on the inside may be kicked out for pride. It happened in the Bible, it could happen again. Don't think that it can't. Psalms 73:12---"Behold, these are the ungodly..who prosper in the world." Where there is money, there is usually contention and fatness. Most Mormons are poor.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Yes, because if Jesus were here today, I'm sure He'd be sitting on corporate boards and covered by business magazines...

JoeBA
Pleasant Grove, ut

I applaud success but at the same time would love to see more of our young men and women search for it in the arts and music and knowledge. Nothing against wordliness--but I hope more people start to develop talents that we can take with us beyond the grave.

Jeffrey Wilbur
Eagle Mountain, UT

While it's impressive for somebody to be so successful, we should not be drawing parallels between their religion and their corporate positions. Otherwise, we make the mistake of equating wealth with righteousness, which has the inverse message of stating if you aren't wealthy, you must not be righteous enough, and if you aren't righteous, you must not be wealthy.

There is not a single part of the Christian gospel which promises or guarantees financial success in this life if you adhere to it; God's glory, and God's rewards, have never been of this world.

There are far more returned missionaries who aren't on corporate boards, or making six figures. I would wager there are just as many returned missionaries living in squalor and poverty as there eating from silver platters with silver spoons in their mouths.

If the same logic is to be applied there, should we argue that they are also in those positions due to their church membership?

ER in EUR
Belgrade, Serbia

One of the things that I learned was a singleness of purpose. This can often be a very useful ability.

Truth csar
Colorado Springs, CO

Service has many benefits; sometimes obvious, always valuable.

peacemaker
Provo, UT

One of the greatest Welfare systems for people around the world functions in the LDS Church. The contributions donated by those same businessmen for the welfare and relief of those less fortunate in the world should also be noted by the magazines publishers who speak of their successes. A mention should also be noted of the thousands of senior missionary couples who, because of their hard work and earned ability to pay for their service, have served or are now serving in hundreds of communities around the world. That includes business executives, blue collar workers, doctors, lawyers, university professors, teachers, scientists, community leaders, engineers etc., etc. They pay their own expenses. They teach English, they provide clean water to thousands, they help administer huge amounts of disaster relief, they allow the lame to move about through wheelchair donations, they provide medical care, equipment and critical surgeries and other vital services that give relief to millions. Those services are possible due to the contributions of LDS church members who practice the Christian teachings which they believe. Their lifetime successes make all of that possible.

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

RE: Charles, You post "@sergio: it has been since 1820. Nothing new here". I agree with you, but I think as time goes on what is making the difference is that now there is much more information and better investigative tools to determine realities and truths; and it is much more difficult for censorship and glossing over of the facts and consequences. The world is becoming better informed and educated, and not as easily decieved as past generations.

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

Then why don't we just get Anthony Robbins and Zig Zigler to represent the Church?

No, we do not want people believing the false doctrine that becoming a member of the Church will make them successful and prosperous (like Scientology).

Jesus (who trumps Nephi or any other Book of Mormon writer) said:

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." (Matt. 5:44-45)

No, God does not make successful and prosperous those who are obedient to him, nor are those who are successful and prosperous more "righteous" than those who are not. This is NOT the gospel of success and prosperity. It is NOT simply an MLM operating under the guise of religion.

Herby
Hurricane, UT

You can't take leadership beyond the grave? I love how many LDS members perceptions vary. However, the fact that business is evil and a waste of time is a skewed perspective.

jmort
SLO, CA

This notion (that RM's have any kind of edge in the business world) sounds logical but is a bunch of bunk. The business world is full of driven people willing to sacrifice and work hard to achieve their goals. I worked (for many years) at one of the firms mentioned in the article, and the RM's did no better and had nothing on anybody else. If anything, they were more accustomed to (and comfortable with) failure than their peers, which cuts both ways.

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

And by the way, Independent, I never said prosperity and success were not good. The point is that prosperity and success are not guaranteed by Church membership. Try to read more carefully next time.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

I've never seen a bunch that frets more about what the media they so hate says about them.

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