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Published: Friday, June 10 2011 11:45 a.m. MDT

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LasVegasCoug
North Las Vegas, NV

Agree wholeheartedly. Nice catch on the state legislation provision Deseret News :) I was in the middle of commenting on it when corrected.

Adam
Salt Lake City, UT

Can I also go to Heaven illegally and then "square up" with God once I get there so I can stay?

EJM
Herriman, UT

So how will this go over with the Utah Republican delegates in Utah-Davis-Washington counties? I smell a problem. As for this Utah Catholic a big "Thank you" to the LDS Church for this.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

I agree with this statement.

I too would put in place something that allows people to work in this country without the need to become criminals in so doing. And I wouldn't make it too onerous, either.

I would encourage those who want to have that privilege to lobby their fellow citizens to STOP stealing identies: social security numbers, fake green cards, bogus driver's licenses, etc. And those who benefit from the migrant labor force ought to realize that they are partly responsible for the situation getting out of hand and the jeopardy they are encouragning for individuals and families. Surely they weild enough influence to get the Federal Government to do something.

Of course the Feds have been on the opposite side of the Church's views in the past few hundred years a few times, so unfortunately I lack the faith that they will suddenly be motivated to do the correct thing; or to do anything at all.

Utes21
Salt Lake City, ut

I support the churches statement, may we all look at each other as Gods Children. They clearly state that they do not accept illegal behavior from its members but they do support treating everyone with love and respect. Also they hit it dead on that illegal immigration needs to be handled by federal level.

joelwisch
Albuquerque, NM

"The history of mass expulsion or mistreatment of individuals or families is cause for concern especially where race, culture or religion are involved. This should give pause to any policy that contemplates targeting any one group, particularly if that group comes mostly from one heritage.
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There is absolutely NO reason to insert this in any comment on the removal of the illegal aliens from the United States. Mass expulsion without serious cause has never happened in our country, and I pray, never will. In our case, employers use the illegal aliens at a very low wage rate, and the illegal aliens then turn to welfare to make that wage 'livable'. That certainly helps the employers, and it costs the taxpayers a fortune.

It is a very offensive comment in this context.

Charityalways
Centerville, UT

As for this Utah Mormon, it's nice to be vindicated every once in a while by your own church. I hope the state legislature, tea-partiers, and conservatives all get the message. Maybe we just need more Mormon Dems? Anybody?

XelaDave
Salem, UT

Amen- now to the tricky part "treat each other as children of God." Not always as easy as it sounds and makes for some room for interpretation- but conceptually- once again- Amen

rachsticle
salt lake city, ut

Amen. Although I am sure the Republicans in the Legislature will find some way to sidestep this advice or ignore it.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

This is the right stance on the issue. I support this position and hope my representatives will also. I plan on getting involved at the grassroots level to see that these guidelines are followed and to stand up to those who will again try to flood the caucuses and conventions with other, less thoughtful and effective (IMHO) approaches. I guess I'm a Doug-Wright conservative on this issue.

Phill
Provo, UT

It's an official statement. I love how the gospel works. Differencing between and "ideology" and the gospel is important people. Sadly many, especially politicians, are trapped in this ideology's.

rallred
Fort Lauderdale, FL

@Adam. Yes. Romans 3:23-26.

positiverealist
Salt Lake City, UT

Once again to enlighten those that don't know, unlawful presence is only a Federal Civil matter not criminal, that is why the LDS Church lets these people hold important callings, go on missions and have temple recommends. If you are caught crossing the border without inspection that is criminal, if you are not caught or if you overstay a visa it is only civil more like a speeding ticket. The Church is saying they don't encourage people to come over without the proper paperwork or to overstay their visas but they are also telling the Government that we should look for a reasonable solution allowing them to "Square up" Making it seem like it is a criminal matter is misleading. Having said this I don't advocate having them come over without the proper papers either but I don't think we can reasonably mass deport these people and in good conscience separate millions of families either. Most of these families have some of the children born in the US making the problem even more difficult. I commend the Church for their statement and now we plead with the Federal Government to take action.

Thunder
Provo, UT

@joelwisch - I would disagree with your comment. The LDS Church and its membership were expelled from Missouri. For more info I would read about the 1838 Mormon Ward and Missouri Executive Order 44 on Wikipedia and elsewhere. I too pray that such a mass expulsion based on race, culture, or religion does not happen again in this country. I pray and hope that our leaders in Washington will put political popularity aside and take up this national issue. Seems like a bipartisan, non-partisan, federal endeavor would be much more productive than the judicial branch fighting the states for attempting to solve the problem that our national leaders are too afraid to tackle themselves.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Enforcement is the ONLY problem that exists regarding illegal immigration.

We already have work visas for temporary workers. They come to work but forget to go home.

The ONLY culture/ethnic group that we currently have problems with regarding immigration violations seem to be those south of our border. Why should we pretend OTHER cultures are involved.

As a ward employment specialist I have problems finding jobs for MY NEIGHBORS.

If we allow any and all who manage to arrive here to work, how do we find jobs for actual Utah citizens? Especially if we want to guarantee minimum wages.

Utah citizens WILL use kindness and compassion in dealing with illegal aliens, (they always have) but, frankly, we can't afford to keep supporting any/all who manage to arrive here.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

I agree with joelwisch. The implication of the church in that statement is that our immigration policy is heartless. We invite more family members, refugees and asylees LEGALLY than any other nation on earth. We provide a free public education and free emergency care. We provide an appeals process to those who are caught here illegally. And we are taken advantage of by 12 million people!
All that is left in the context of that statement is amnesty.
As for the racial overtones the church suggests, it is a demographic reality that the vast majority of illegal aliens are Hispanic, about 80% by most estimates. Activists have made it appear to be a racial issue. I for one am just as concerned about the unlawful presence of Asians, Europeans and Africans as I am of Latinos.
The rule of law ought to be color-blind.

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

joelwisch:
read some Mormon history,
American Indian history
American Japanese history and then tell me mass expulsion hasn't happened.

shaggyman48
Cedar Hills, UT

To our friend from Albuquerque who said that "mass expulsion without serious cause has never happened in our country", I would simply point out the history of our Native Americans & also the relocation of Japanese to internment camps during WW II.

Dadof5sons
Montesano, WA

I agree with the church's statment 100 percent! Now if the Federal government would just enforce the laws on the books then this issue would solve its self. Also we can end the status quo for current welfare. if a person is able body to work and is on food stamps or medicaid they should do the work that most Americans don't want to do. Maid service picking crops, construction, etc...
to get the welfare they now enjoy with out the labor. then when ilegal's try to find work sorry we don't need you we have plenty of our citizens that have to work to get bennifits. Doing it that way does a few things it helps those on welfare gain back self worth 2nd it makes it so the ilegal imagrant has no options but take themselves back to were they came on their accord.

Uintahiker
Saratoga Springs, Utah

To Joel. Now go back and read that WHOLE sentence, not just what you cherry picked out of it. It says, "The history of mass expulsion or mistreatment of individuals..." You conveniently left out "mistreatment". Now think about how native americans, blacks or even Japanese Americans (during WWII) have been treated in our past. Kind of gives credence to that statement, huh?

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