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Published: Tuesday, June 7 2011 8:04 p.m. MDT

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conservative scientist
Lindon, UT

Private businesses planning on doing something other than Obama thought they would do? Who would have ever thought?

David
Centerville, UT

So the government, through Obama's healthcare law, will make the health coverage of Americans worse than before, while significantly increasing taxes to cover this Obamanation we call Obamacare.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@conservative scientist

"Private businesses planning on doing something other than Obama thought they would do? Who would have ever thought?"
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Actually, this is exactly what Obama thought they would do... more people off employer sponsored insurance and in need of government health care is precisely what Obama wanted.

Cougar Blue
N. Las Vegas, NV

Should have gone "single payer" in the first place.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

@David and conservative scientist. Be what you are politically, but I urge you to use your mind to think outside of party line ideas that induce all things negative as the opposition's fault.

Healthcare in our country has been building it's foundation as a capitalist enterprise since WWII. That might be something that you justify, and we could argue validations relative to specifics, but I doubt I could change your minds with my 200 words that the DESNEWS provides.

All of that said, our healthcare is well behind other civilized, and even semi-civilized nations. Somehow I think that David and conservative scientist would consider me unpatriotic for using my free speech to question anything that is a staple in the USA that can or even can't be traced through a single party.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

STILL waiting on the Republican plan, or is it "get rid of Medicare"?

seer
kaysville, ut

Capitalism is the unequal distribution of health care.......Socialism is the equal distribution of misery. I have tweaked Churchhill for a moment.

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

Duh! Who woulda thunk that? Its been Obamas dream, and that of his mentors, to have a single payer system. socialism good, capitalism bad, you know. their plan is to just nudge us fools in the direction they want us to go.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

This just strengthens my belief that we should have a plan (national or state) where all pay something and all are covered. I see no reason why we should have subsidies to pay private insurance plans. That just siphons off needed resources. A state administered plan would be more accountable than a national plan but all states should do something. This is not an area best served by a laissez faire approach.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Businesses exist to make a profit for their owners/shareholders, not to be lackeys to a socialist government that hates business.

Sadly, this forces businesses to drop healthcare plans that have been great for employees. And, it will destroy most of the choices available in the past for different types of health insurance.

Obamacare is a bad plan, and passed in great haste (and deception) to hide its many flaws and consequences (intended and unintended).

Repeal of Obamacare will be a major step towards improving the the rapidly declining state of healthcare.

Obama was untruthful when he claimed "If you like your insurance you can keep it" and "Healthcare costs will go down."

IDC
Boise, ID

I think Howard S. is onto something. The more people rely on the government, the more power obama and the democrats have. The more history I read, the more this becomes apparent. Get people in debt to you, get them reliant on you, and they will be yours forever - it is too painful to get out from under those in power.

open minded
Lehi, UT

One again greed and profits come before human life. Capitalism is meant to be for the People not the Corporation. Business will again make sure it gets what it wants at the expense of people. Then people will defend businesses to do whatever they want to and claim it is Capitalism. That is not the Capitalism Adam Smith the economist wanted- he believed business should take care of its employees but in today's America we have lost sight of that. We then blame the government for trying to force us to be better human beings than we have become.
Those of you that think there is Capitalism in practice with insurance companies have been duped by the powers that be. Insurance is a giant empire that has total control and doesn't want its own customers to have any power or say. While Obamacare may not be the answer to insurance and health care problems at least it is an attempt to fight against greed and destroy the insurance empire in order to create real Capitalism and choice for the customer- not Capitalism for the corporation only.

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

Business is not supposed to provide a "nanny state" for employees.

Business exists to make a profit.

If an employee does not like that fact...

move on.

Business has now improved its "bottom line" by eliminating health care coverage for employees.

The next step is to end Medicare.

The step after that is to end Social Security.

If a citizen does not like those facts...

they can move on.

Hey, I'm not kidding...

Pawlenty told me to "Google" it...

Northern Lights
Louisville, KY

FDRfan,

I disagree with your comment. I feel that a mandatory "national or state" plan takes away my freedom of choice. Without freedom of choice as a consumer, I lose any leverage to negotiate the best possible terms for the services I want. I would also prefer to avoid any "cookie-cutter" program which becomes administratively bloated due to inefficiencies and mismanagement. Anyway, that's my opinion.

JustAsking
Saint George, UT

Where is the Capitalism in a system that does not give choice to the consumer. As a business owner I have been paying through the nose to the Monopoly of insurance tyrants long enough, with virtually nothing in return but a broken system.

I applaud Obama and Healthcare reform for finally forcing the unscrupulous to provide reasonable choices to those who want to have a viable healthcare system.

When outside forces strangle the health of an entire nation it is time to rise against those forces to reclaim our right to choose. There is no single payer system in Obama Care nor is there Government dominance of healthcare. Thank you President Obama for standing against the crushing tyranny of a multi-billion dollar industry so we can all finally be free to choose....

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

If you thought your employer was going to keep paying for your healthcare BEFORE healthcare reform, you are foolish. And need to keep up with the trends.

'Only in America: Bankruptcy Due to Health Care Costs' - James E. Dalen, MD, MPH - 08/04/09
'The article by Himmelstein in this issue of the The American Journal of Medicine documents that health care expenses were the most common cause of bankruptcy in the United States in 2007, accounting for 62% of US bankruptcies compared with 8% in 1981.'
- American Journal of Medicine

Employers were going to drop health plans BEFORE healthcare reform. And if you didn't have any health insurance?

*'Uninsured ER patients twice as likely to die' - AP - 11/16/09

What could have POSSIBLY helped you if your employer drops your health plan?

A Public Option?

Boy. Good thing our 'saviors', the Republican Party fought, tooth and nail AGAINST healthcare reform and a public option, huh?

Death Panels
They're gonna kill grandma
Final solution

You keep believing those lies.

JustAsking
Saint George, UT

Employers like me, are finally seeing the reality that when individuals can buy better insurance, cheaper, without interference from employers they are better off taking their healthcare into their own hands.

Finally we will be free to choose...... Republicans had years to address this issue but they chose to bask in the "PAYOLA" of special interests and profit from our misery.

Shame on Republicans for supporting a communistic system of corporate greed. Thank you Obama for standing for freedom and for restoring a truly capitalistic system.

screenname
Salt Lake City, UT

Would any fan of Obamacare care to explain to me how it helps the common man stand up to the evil insurance companies? Does it break up the supposed monopolies? Does it offer an alternative? Does it force them to lower their prices?

J-TX
Allen, TX

Obamacare has thus;

1) Limited choice and competition,
2) Made healthcare less available by having health providers opt out of major plans, and
3) Made health care more expensive.

My group health renewal, which takes effect in September, has me paying 18% more overall (prescriptions are 50% more), with a reduction in benefits. Thank goodness my wife's current cancer treatment is under this year's "cheap" plan.....NOT.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

Northern Lights.
I have Medicare but also a choice of several plans for supplemental coverage. I have more healthcare freedom now than I ever did before.

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