Published: Tuesday, June 7 2011 8:00 p.m. MDT
Private businesses planning on doing something other than Obama thought they
would do? Who would have ever thought?
So the government, through Obama's healthcare law, will make the health coverage
of Americans worse than before, while significantly increasing taxes to cover
this Obamanation we call Obamacare.
@conservative scientist"Private businesses planning on doing
something other than Obama thought they would do? Who would have ever
thought?"*******Actually, this is exactly what Obama
thought they would do... more people off employer sponsored insurance and in
need of government health care is precisely what Obama wanted.
Should have gone "single payer" in the first place.
@David and conservative scientist. Be what you are politically, but I urge you
to use your mind to think outside of party line ideas that induce all things
negative as the opposition's fault. Healthcare in our country has
been building it's foundation as a capitalist enterprise since WWII. That might
be something that you justify, and we could argue validations relative to
specifics, but I doubt I could change your minds with my 200 words that the
DESNEWS provides.All of that said, our healthcare is well behind
other civilized, and even semi-civilized nations. Somehow I think that David and
conservative scientist would consider me unpatriotic for using my free speech to
question anything that is a staple in the USA that can or even can't be traced
through a single party.
STILL waiting on the Republican plan, or is it "get rid of Medicare"?
Capitalism is the unequal distribution of health care.......Socialism is the
equal distribution of misery. I have tweaked Churchhill for a moment.
Duh! Who woulda thunk that? Its been Obamas dream, and that of his mentors, to
have a single payer system. socialism good, capitalism bad, you know. their
plan is to just nudge us fools in the direction they want us to go.
This just strengthens my belief that we should have a plan (national or state)
where all pay something and all are covered. I see no reason why we should have
subsidies to pay private insurance plans. That just siphons off needed
resources. A state administered plan would be more accountable than a national
plan but all states should do something. This is not an area best served by a
laissez faire approach.
Businesses exist to make a profit for their owners/shareholders, not to be
lackeys to a socialist government that hates business.Sadly, this
forces businesses to drop healthcare plans that have been great for employees.
And, it will destroy most of the choices available in the past for different
types of health insurance.Obamacare is a bad plan, and passed in
great haste (and deception) to hide its many flaws and consequences (intended
and unintended).Repeal of Obamacare will be a major step towards
improving the the rapidly declining state of healthcare.Obama was
untruthful when he claimed "If you like your insurance you can keep
it" and "Healthcare costs will go down."
I think Howard S. is onto something. The more people rely on the government,
the more power obama and the democrats have. The more history I read, the more
this becomes apparent. Get people in debt to you, get them reliant on you, and
they will be yours forever - it is too painful to get out from under those in
One again greed and profits come before human life. Capitalism is meant to be
for the People not the Corporation. Business will again make sure it gets what
it wants at the expense of people. Then people will defend businesses to do
whatever they want to and claim it is Capitalism. That is not the Capitalism
Adam Smith the economist wanted- he believed business should take care of its
employees but in today's America we have lost sight of that. We then blame the
government for trying to force us to be better human beings than we have become.
Those of you that think there is Capitalism in practice with insurance
companies have been duped by the powers that be. Insurance is a giant empire
that has total control and doesn't want its own customers to have any power or
say. While Obamacare may not be the answer to insurance and health care problems
at least it is an attempt to fight against greed and destroy the insurance
empire in order to create real Capitalism and choice for the customer- not
Capitalism for the corporation only.
Business is not supposed to provide a "nanny state" for employees.Business exists to make a profit.If an employee does not
like that fact...move on.Business has now improved its
"bottom line" by eliminating health care coverage for employees.The next step is to end Medicare.The step after that is to
end Social Security.If a citizen does not like those facts...they can move on.Hey, I'm not kidding...Pawlenty
told me to "Google" it...
FDRfan,I disagree with your comment. I feel that a mandatory
"national or state" plan takes away my freedom of choice. Without
freedom of choice as a consumer, I lose any leverage to negotiate the best
possible terms for the services I want. I would also prefer to avoid any
"cookie-cutter" program which becomes administratively bloated due to
inefficiencies and mismanagement. Anyway, that's my opinion.
Where is the Capitalism in a system that does not give choice to the consumer.
As a business owner I have been paying through the nose to the Monopoly of
insurance tyrants long enough, with virtually nothing in return but a broken
system. I applaud Obama and Healthcare reform for finally forcing
the unscrupulous to provide reasonable choices to those who want to have a
viable healthcare system. When outside forces strangle the health of
an entire nation it is time to rise against those forces to reclaim our right to
choose. There is no single payer system in Obama Care nor is there Government
dominance of healthcare. Thank you President Obama for standing against the
crushing tyranny of a multi-billion dollar industry so we can all finally be
free to choose....
If you thought your employer was going to keep paying for your healthcare BEFORE
healthcare reform, you are foolish. And need to keep up with the trends. 'Only in America: Bankruptcy Due to Health Care Costs' - James E.
Dalen, MD, MPH - 08/04/09 'The article by Himmelstein in this issue of
the The American Journal of Medicine documents that health care expenses were
the most common cause of bankruptcy in the United States in 2007, accounting for
62% of US bankruptcies compared with 8% in 1981.' - American Journal of
Medicine Employers were going to drop health plans BEFORE healthcare
reform. And if you didn't have any health insurance? *'Uninsured ER
patients twice as likely to die' - AP - 11/16/09 What could have
POSSIBLY helped you if your employer drops your health plan? A
Public Option? Boy. Good thing our 'saviors', the Republican Party
fought, tooth and nail AGAINST healthcare reform and a public option, huh? Death Panels They're gonna kill grandma Final solution You keep believing those lies.
Employers like me, are finally seeing the reality that when individuals can buy
better insurance, cheaper, without interference from employers they are better
off taking their healthcare into their own hands. Finally we will be
free to choose...... Republicans had years to address this issue but they chose
to bask in the "PAYOLA" of special interests and profit from our
misery. Shame on Republicans for supporting a communistic system of
corporate greed. Thank you Obama for standing for freedom and for restoring a
truly capitalistic system.
Would any fan of Obamacare care to explain to me how it helps the common man
stand up to the evil insurance companies? Does it break up the supposed
monopolies? Does it offer an alternative? Does it force them to lower their
Obamacare has thus;1) Limited choice and competition, 2) Made
healthcare less available by having health providers opt out of major plans,
and3) Made health care more expensive.My group health renewal,
which takes effect in September, has me paying 18% more overall (prescriptions
are 50% more), with a reduction in benefits. Thank goodness my wife's current
cancer treatment is under this year's "cheap" plan.....NOT.
Northern Lights.I have Medicare but also a choice of several plans for
supplemental coverage. I have more healthcare freedom now than I ever did
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