April fools, right!?
Hey bass.... wrong!Place any qb in the situation that Alex has been
in and he would struggle. Since you are a coug fan try this, go look at steve
young's career stats prior to the time he fell into qb heaven in the Walsh
system. He took over for Joe Montana on an established, winning team. Prior to
his move to the 9ers, the Bucks had given up on him because of his pathetic
performances and numbers. Check it out.Give Alex the same
opportunity and you will see an excellent qb. By the way, how have your #1
overall picks done in the NFL? NBA? ...... crickets!
LOL! This will ensure the 49ers to lock up the #1 draft pick next year for
Andrew Luck. Brillant move by Harbaugh!
blucoug,Is this the same strategy that Tampa Bay used by letting
Steve Young start and finish with the worst record in the NFL? They gave up on
him after two seasons with him throwing just 11 TDs while throwing 21
Interceptions. With their 1st overall pick in the NFL draft they selected
quarterback Vinny Testaverde and traded Young to SF for 2nd and 4th round draft
picks.Young vs. Smith through their first six seasons:Smith: 51 TDs, 53 InterceptionsYoung: 38 TDs, 40 InterceptionsYoung was very fortunate being sent to SF. I'd love to see Smith get a
similar opportunity. So far he has been dealt a tough hand with six different
Offensive Coordinators in his six seasons.Smith is a great young man
and doesn't deserve your negative comments.
@midmajorBy all accounts smith is a good guy, he just isn't a very
good qb. I suppose we'll see if he can become better but he doesn't have the
physical tools Steve Young had so it is at best a long shot. I wish him luck
because he will need it. But of course your selective outrage is laughable.
Let's see you come on and defend a former BYU player against similar stuff from
utah "fans". It happens all of the time but for some reason your
defense of what's right is conspicuously absent in those moments.
@MidmajorI didn't know Alex Smith's dad was on here! You are
actually comparing Alex Smith to Steve Young? WOW! It is bad enough that you are
a Ute fan, but to use Steve Young, a Hall of Famer and a BYU great as your
comparison, just goes to show how Ute fans obsess over all things BYU.Alex Smith plays for the 49ers! One of the greatest sports teams in NFL
history. That gives him all the advantage he needs to succeed. He had a very
good team the last couple years, and He just hasn't been able to lead....period!
To believe that Smith would all of a sudden become a Steve Young if you surround
him with talent and stability is just wishful thinking. Great players find ways
to overcome! Great players make those around them better!All Ute
fans cry that Alex needs this, Alex needs that! Well, little Alex needs to Man
up and start playing Football!
Duckhunter and BlueSaint,Okay, you two don't like the comparison
between Steve Young and Alex Smith? Let's try John Beck and Alex Smith. What
has Beck done in the NFL? How many years has he had to do it in? Wasn't he
also given the starting job in his first season at Miami? I'm sure you two are
right in there with all the other BYU fans cheering him on as the starter for
the Redskins and claiming he is finally going to really get his chance.So, Duckhunter, your criticism of midmajor for not defending former BYU
players equally comes back to haunt you. I doubt either of you two would ever
be found defending a former Ute.Here's a challenge for you. Name
all the great NFL QB's who were put in as the starter right off the bat. There
are a few, including Peyton Manning, but you'll find the majority of NFL QB's
who have had great success were brought up more slowly with great mentors ahead
of them. That includes Steve Young.
@mormon ute"So, Duckhunter, your criticism of midmajor for not
defending former BYU players equally comes back to haunt you"No
it doesn't because I don't whine about it like midmajor and alot of you ute
"fans" do. I don't care if ute "fans" foolishly try to claim
Jimmer will fail, is unathletic, etc. I just laugh at the ignorance.As far as smith is concerned, well he can in no way be compared to Beck. Smith
was the overall number 1 draft pick in the NFL draft. That is the sort of player
that should be a can't miss stud, period. Beck was a 2nd round pick and while I
certainly hope he does well as a starter he is not the overall #1 pick in the
entire draft.But here is an answer for you "challenge".
His name is Sam Bradford. He was the overall #1 NFL pick last season and was
immediately put in as the starter on an absolutely awful team. He is well on his
way to being great and with no excuses. He was even coming off an missed sr.
season with an injury.
Duckhunter,You failed the challenge. Sam Bradford may be great one
day, but not unless he gets a better supporting cast. The challenge was to name
the ones who have already earned the label of great and were placed in a
starting role right off the bat. Leading up to this years draft, Todd McShay of
ESPN listed a bunch of the high draft picks that were put in as starters
immediately and subsequently failed. He also listed the ones who were usually
picked in later rounds and given the opportunity to learn from a veteran before
starting. That list included Joe Montana, Drew Brees, Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady,
Brett Favre, Steve Young, etc. McShay was backed up by at least two former
Coaches on the show who said picking a QB high in the first round and expecting
him to start right away was a bad decision for any NFL team. That opinion is
backed up by the stats.
@mormon uteAnd I don't normally disagree with that logic. With qb's
it is usually better to sit and learn and not be thrown in right off the bat.
But smith is far beyond rookie status now. If playing him early ruined him for
good then he wasn't any good to begin with. But the simple truth is his physical
tools are mediocre and those deficiencies, combined with a bad situation, gave
him no chance for any success as so far he has had none.If he had
been in a perfect situation he may have become adequate but nothing about him
equates to a star regardless of the situation. Steve Young on the otherhand was
incredibly gifted athletically and all he needed was the right situation to
become a hall of fame superstar. smith will never be either of those things.
Sorry but he simply wont.Bradford will. And you won't hear him
whining about being on a crappy team, having to deal with his 2nd offensive
coordinator in only his second year, etc.
Way to go Alex - the epitome of class!For all you y apologists, just
remember that Steve Young could accomplish NOTHING in the NFL until he was
coached by a Ute - George Siefert. So, you can thank your big brother for that
too!Go Alex! Go Utes!
@vegasuteYou can thank all those former cougars prowling your Ute
sidelines for the lessons on winning! For the Ute Inferiority Complex? Well, BYU
can't help you there. Being BYU will do that to many programs, just ask San
Didn't San Diego State beat BYU in the conference championship?
bluesaint,No, I'm not Alex Smith's dad... are you Steve Young's dad?
Please go look at Steve's stats when he played for a terrible team, they were
pathetic stats! The Bucks gave up on him and used the 1st overall pick in the
draft to take a qb! FYI, the current 49ers cannot be compared to the team that
Walsh and Montana built!My point is that the team and the style of
football the team plays has will impact a player's success. Steve Young is the
perfect example.duckhunter,"Let's see you come on
and defend a former BYU player against similar stuff from utah "fans".
It happens all of the time but for some reason your defense of what's right is
conspicuously absent in those moments."LOL! Nice post! I don't
ever post on byu articles so you are directing your frustration at the wrong
person. I will post on Utes and Jazz articles only. As far as
comparing Young and Smith, I think it's a fair comparison at the six year mark.
Each qb has/had substantial talent and both played for terrible teams.
I'll bet even Y fans often get tired of Duckhunter's posts."If
playing him early ruined him for good then he wasn't any good to begin
with."Wow, that's profound. Is this in a NFL quarterback manual
somewhere? Can ANYONE make any sense of this dribble?"If he had
been in a perfect situation he may have become adequate but nothing about him
equates to a star regardless of the situation."Smith posted
some grandiose stats and great performances during his time as a Ute, and was
ranked among the top three QBs in the nation coming out in 2005. Clearly, many
NFL teams (who know a LOT more about what makes a good QB than Mr. Duck) wanted
to draft Smith with their top pick. But... nothing about him equates to a star
regardless... blah blah blah. Whatever."Steve Young was
incredibly gifted athletically and all he needed was the right
situation"I challenge anyone to tell me how the situation is
ANY different for Smith.Mr. Duck, I've seen some doozies from you in
the past but this one tops them all. You best relinquish your screen name and go
Duckhunter,I trust Jim Harbaugh's judgement over yours. I will
reserve judgement on Bradford until he shows more results. So far a 10 loss
season doesn't mean all pro.
@ MidMajor4ever:I could care less about Smith stats and your
probably right what is ratio is. But Young's stats in his first 6 years in the
NFL:34 TD's 27 INT's. If you want to add in his rushing TD's total,
that's 10 more to the list.44 TD's vs 27 INT'sYoung >
Smith, hands down no comparison!Oh by the way Young was the NFL MVP
by his 7th year in the league, there is no way Smith will ever sniff an MVP
trophy.Smith might be a good guy, as a 49er fan of 30 plus years, I
agree with the majority of fans and former 49er greats (Rice, etc...) to see
Smith and the 49ers parts ways. Plus I want the Yorks gone too! Harbaugh WILL go
after some Luck in 2012!2005 draft: Rodgers > Smith
Alex, no worries, you have still probably made a truck load more money than the
BYU trolls on this article. And you have a BCS trophy to boot.But...He will have to prove himself though. This is his year. You
only get so many chances in a league where QBs are blamed and credited for
everything (ex: Brett Favre). I don't consider him a bust per se, like the
Cougtrolls do, as I think that should be reserved for players like Ryan Leaf and
Jamarcus Russell. However, he will have to have a breakout season.I'm thinking leading the 49ers to a ~10-6 record, playoff win, division title
and a 20-10 TD to Int ratio oughta do it.Go luck Alex.
@DuckhunterSmith was the overall number 1 draft pick in the NFL draft.
That is the sort of player that should be a can't miss stud, period.---------Jamarcus Russell was a #1 draft pick in 2007, how's he
doing? No such thing as "can't miss stud". Steve Young was
considered a "bust" playing for the horrible Buccaneers, only when he
came to play for a dynasty and learn under a Hall of Fame QB did he excel.As a 49er I am HIGHLY disappointing in Alex Smith but I also know that
its not all is fault. However, if he fails this year then Alex is a good
long-term backup (ala Heisman winner Ty Detmer).
@tomahawk redAnother ute "fan" that cares deeply about
what I post. LOL!P.S. Smith is a very poor qb. I
challenge you to show otherwise.
@uteologyIf alex smith turns in a career like Steve Youngs then get
back to me. I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you. Just because someone is a
"good guy" it doesn't mean they are a good football player. As far as
Jamarcus Russell is concerned, well he is also a bust. It just goes to show that
poorly run teams, like the Raiders and the 49ers, are incapable of evaluating
talent. The #1 pick in the NFL draft should be a can't miss stud but when there
is incompetence calling the shots you get picks like Russell and Smith. You
can't blame either of them for being picked there, but you can certainly blame
the teams that picked them for royally screwing up something that should be
blue...I compared Smith and Young's passing for their first six
years of professional football. Young played for the LA Express, Tampa Bay and
the 49ers. He failed with the first two teams and only had respectable numbers
when picked up by a team in it's prime with several Hall of Fame players and
Bill Walsh running the show. Young's numbers were pathetic when he played for
Tampa Bay, which is a better comparison to the current 49er team/talent.ducky, you are hoplessly obsessed with the Utes and can't think
rationally. Do you really think you are smarter than the 49er and Raider
organizations? Do you think Steve Young would be in the Hall of Fame if he had
stayed in Tampa Bay?My point is the organization has a huge impact
on the success of the player. Aaron Rodgers would not have had the same success
he has had in GB if the 49ers had drafted him instead of Alex Smith. If Alex
Smith were to back up a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning on an established team,
similar to what Young did with Montana, his chances for success would greatly
it's players like smith...that caused and is the main reason for all this lock
out stuff....seriously, how many over paid rookies like smith never pan out, yet
get paid soooo much money...before they even play a game in the NFL? I hope the
owners win out of this lock out because I'd rather the money in the hands of
those that can grow the sport...not just take from it, giving nothing in
return....just like alix smith. what a waste of a #1 pick.
@midmajor"Do you really think you are smarter than the 49er and
Raider organizations?"Well I wouldn't have used the #1 overall
pick on either of those two. Why don't you tell all of us why those were such
great picks?"Do you think Steve Young would be in the Hall of
Fame if he had stayed in Tampa Bay?"I have no idea. The fact is
he is in the Hall of Fame. Do you really think you know whether or not he would
have been otherwise?"My point is the organization has a huge
impact on the success of the player. Aaron Rodgers would not have had the same
success he has had in GB if the 49ers had drafted him instead of Alex Smith. If
Alex Smith were to back up a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning on an established team
his chances for success would greatly increase."Now you're just
pulling stuff out and posting it. Plenty of players become successful playing
for lousy teams. Make all the excuses you want it doesn't change the fact smith
is bad. Get back to me when he's in the hall of fame.
@ MidMajor4everSince when was the LA Express in the NFL? Or does the
NFL ever count USFL stats regarding an NFL career? Answer: No. So why use that
in your comparison? Your starting to reach for something not even there!Young > Smith
VegasUte | 4:51 p.m. June 3, 2011 Las Vegas, NV Way to go Alex - the
epitome of class!For all you y apologists, just remember that Steve
Young could accomplish NOTHING in the NFL until he was coached by a Ute - George
Siefert. So, you can thank your big brother for that too!Vegasute-
The Utes are coached by a Cougar. So by your logic you're saying that the Utes
couldn't have gone to a BCS Bowl in 2008 and couldn't have gotten into the PAC
without the Cougars.
Duckhunter,Please, no more "LOL." You sound like a
fifteen year old girl every time you type it.
@90'CougarPlease change your screen name as everyone on here knows
you are a ute troll.LOL
Alex Smith will be a journeyman QB after this season. If you want to compare
him to a former Tampa Bay QB it would have to be Trent Dilfer, not Steve Young.
The Bucs drafted Dilfer to be their face of the franchise and he failed b/c he
wasn't good enough to carry a team. But in Baltimore with a great defense and a
ball control offense Dilfer was able to win a Super Bowl. Smith can follow that
blueprint and have some success, but he'll never, ever be the kind of QB that
you count on to throw for a ton of yards and be the best player on your team.
If he can manage a team on offense, don't turn the ball over, make smart
decisions and be opportunistic when occasion rises he can turn his reputation
around. But to think that he can be a Steve Young type player is just ludicrous
and any one suggesting otherwise needs to have their head examined.