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Published: Thursday, June 2 2011 7:52 p.m. MDT

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Real Bass
Idaho Falls, ID

April fools, right!?

MidMajor4ever
Syracuse, UT

Hey bass.... wrong!

Place any qb in the situation that Alex has been in and he would struggle. Since you are a coug fan try this, go look at steve young's career stats prior to the time he fell into qb heaven in the Walsh system. He took over for Joe Montana on an established, winning team. Prior to his move to the 9ers, the Bucks had given up on him because of his pathetic performances and numbers. Check it out.

Give Alex the same opportunity and you will see an excellent qb. By the way, how have your #1 overall picks done in the NFL? NBA? ...... crickets!

BluCoug
Provo, UT

LOL! This will ensure the 49ers to lock up the #1 draft pick next year for Andrew Luck. Brillant move by Harbaugh!

MidMajor4ever
Syracuse, UT

blucoug,

Is this the same strategy that Tampa Bay used by letting Steve Young start and finish with the worst record in the NFL? They gave up on him after two seasons with him throwing just 11 TDs while throwing 21 Interceptions. With their 1st overall pick in the NFL draft they selected quarterback Vinny Testaverde and traded Young to SF for 2nd and 4th round draft picks.

Young vs. Smith through their first six seasons:

Smith: 51 TDs, 53 Interceptions
Young: 38 TDs, 40 Interceptions

Young was very fortunate being sent to SF. I'd love to see Smith get a similar opportunity. So far he has been dealt a tough hand with six different Offensive Coordinators in his six seasons.

Smith is a great young man and doesn't deserve your negative comments.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@midmajor

By all accounts smith is a good guy, he just isn't a very good qb. I suppose we'll see if he can become better but he doesn't have the physical tools Steve Young had so it is at best a long shot. I wish him luck because he will need it. But of course your selective outrage is laughable. Let's see you come on and defend a former BYU player against similar stuff from utah "fans". It happens all of the time but for some reason your defense of what's right is conspicuously absent in those moments.

BlueSaint
South Jordan, UT

@Midmajor

I didn't know Alex Smith's dad was on here! You are actually comparing Alex Smith to Steve Young? WOW! It is bad enough that you are a Ute fan, but to use Steve Young, a Hall of Famer and a BYU great as your comparison, just goes to show how Ute fans obsess over all things BYU.

Alex Smith plays for the 49ers! One of the greatest sports teams in NFL history. That gives him all the advantage he needs to succeed. He had a very good team the last couple years, and He just hasn't been able to lead....period! To believe that Smith would all of a sudden become a Steve Young if you surround him with talent and stability is just wishful thinking. Great players find ways to overcome! Great players make those around them better!

All Ute fans cry that Alex needs this, Alex needs that! Well, little Alex needs to Man up and start playing Football!

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Duckhunter and BlueSaint,

Okay, you two don't like the comparison between Steve Young and Alex Smith? Let's try John Beck and Alex Smith. What has Beck done in the NFL? How many years has he had to do it in? Wasn't he also given the starting job in his first season at Miami? I'm sure you two are right in there with all the other BYU fans cheering him on as the starter for the Redskins and claiming he is finally going to really get his chance.

So, Duckhunter, your criticism of midmajor for not defending former BYU players equally comes back to haunt you. I doubt either of you two would ever be found defending a former Ute.

Here's a challenge for you. Name all the great NFL QB's who were put in as the starter right off the bat. There are a few, including Peyton Manning, but you'll find the majority of NFL QB's who have had great success were brought up more slowly with great mentors ahead of them. That includes Steve Young.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@mormon ute

"So, Duckhunter, your criticism of midmajor for not defending former BYU players equally comes back to haunt you"

No it doesn't because I don't whine about it like midmajor and alot of you ute "fans" do. I don't care if ute "fans" foolishly try to claim Jimmer will fail, is unathletic, etc. I just laugh at the ignorance.

As far as smith is concerned, well he can in no way be compared to Beck. Smith was the overall number 1 draft pick in the NFL draft. That is the sort of player that should be a can't miss stud, period. Beck was a 2nd round pick and while I certainly hope he does well as a starter he is not the overall #1 pick in the entire draft.

But here is an answer for you "challenge". His name is Sam Bradford. He was the overall #1 NFL pick last season and was immediately put in as the starter on an absolutely awful team. He is well on his way to being great and with no excuses. He was even coming off an missed sr. season with an injury.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Duckhunter,

You failed the challenge. Sam Bradford may be great one day, but not unless he gets a better supporting cast. The challenge was to name the ones who have already earned the label of great and were placed in a starting role right off the bat. Leading up to this years draft, Todd McShay of ESPN listed a bunch of the high draft picks that were put in as starters immediately and subsequently failed. He also listed the ones who were usually picked in later rounds and given the opportunity to learn from a veteran before starting. That list included Joe Montana, Drew Brees, Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Steve Young, etc. McShay was backed up by at least two former Coaches on the show who said picking a QB high in the first round and expecting him to start right away was a bad decision for any NFL team. That opinion is backed up by the stats.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@mormon ute

And I don't normally disagree with that logic. With qb's it is usually better to sit and learn and not be thrown in right off the bat. But smith is far beyond rookie status now. If playing him early ruined him for good then he wasn't any good to begin with. But the simple truth is his physical tools are mediocre and those deficiencies, combined with a bad situation, gave him no chance for any success as so far he has had none.

If he had been in a perfect situation he may have become adequate but nothing about him equates to a star regardless of the situation. Steve Young on the otherhand was incredibly gifted athletically and all he needed was the right situation to become a hall of fame superstar. smith will never be either of those things. Sorry but he simply wont.

Bradford will. And you won't hear him whining about being on a crappy team, having to deal with his 2nd offensive coordinator in only his second year, etc.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Way to go Alex - the epitome of class!

For all you y apologists, just remember that Steve Young could accomplish NOTHING in the NFL until he was coached by a Ute - George Siefert. So, you can thank your big brother for that too!

Go Alex! Go Utes!

BlueSaint
South Jordan, UT

@vegasute

You can thank all those former cougars prowling your Ute sidelines for the lessons on winning! For the Ute Inferiority Complex? Well, BYU can't help you there. Being BYU will do that to many programs, just ask San Diego State!

Jute19
Poop, UT

Didn't San Diego State beat BYU in the conference championship?

MidMajor4ever
Syracuse, UT

bluesaint,

No, I'm not Alex Smith's dad... are you Steve Young's dad? Please go look at Steve's stats when he played for a terrible team, they were pathetic stats! The Bucks gave up on him and used the 1st overall pick in the draft to take a qb! FYI, the current 49ers cannot be compared to the team that Walsh and Montana built!

My point is that the team and the style of football the team plays has will impact a player's success. Steve Young is the perfect example.

duckhunter,

"Let's see you come on and defend a former BYU player against similar stuff from utah "fans". It happens all of the time but for some reason your defense of what's right is conspicuously absent in those moments."

LOL! Nice post! I don't ever post on byu articles so you are directing your frustration at the wrong person. I will post on Utes and Jazz articles only.

As far as comparing Young and Smith, I think it's a fair comparison at the six year mark. Each qb has/had substantial talent and both played for terrible teams.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

I'll bet even Y fans often get tired of Duckhunter's posts.

"If playing him early ruined him for good then he wasn't any good to begin with."

Wow, that's profound. Is this in a NFL quarterback manual somewhere? Can ANYONE make any sense of this dribble?

"If he had been in a perfect situation he may have become adequate but nothing about him equates to a star regardless of the situation."

Smith posted some grandiose stats and great performances during his time as a Ute, and was ranked among the top three QBs in the nation coming out in 2005. Clearly, many NFL teams (who know a LOT more about what makes a good QB than Mr. Duck) wanted to draft Smith with their top pick. But... nothing about him equates to a star regardless... blah blah blah. Whatever.

"Steve Young was incredibly gifted athletically and all he needed was the right situation"

I challenge anyone to tell me how the situation is ANY different for Smith.

Mr. Duck, I've seen some doozies from you in the past but this one tops them all. You best relinquish your screen name and go into hiding.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Duckhunter,

I trust Jim Harbaugh's judgement over yours. I will reserve judgement on Bradford until he shows more results. So far a 10 loss season doesn't mean all pro.

BluCoug
Provo, UT

@ MidMajor4ever:

I could care less about Smith stats and your probably right what is ratio is. But Young's stats in his first 6 years in the NFL:

34 TD's 27 INT's. If you want to add in his rushing TD's total, that's 10 more to the list.

44 TD's vs 27 INT's

Young > Smith, hands down no comparison!

Oh by the way Young was the NFL MVP by his 7th year in the league, there is no way Smith will ever sniff an MVP trophy.

Smith might be a good guy, as a 49er fan of 30 plus years, I agree with the majority of fans and former 49er greats (Rice, etc...) to see Smith and the 49ers parts ways. Plus I want the Yorks gone too! Harbaugh WILL go after some Luck in 2012!

2005 draft: Rodgers > Smith

MiP
Iowa City, IA

Alex, no worries, you have still probably made a truck load more money than the BYU trolls on this article. And you have a BCS trophy to boot.

But...

He will have to prove himself though. This is his year. You only get so many chances in a league where QBs are blamed and credited for everything (ex: Brett Favre). I don't consider him a bust per se, like the Cougtrolls do, as I think that should be reserved for players like Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell. However, he will have to have a breakout season.

I'm thinking leading the 49ers to a ~10-6 record, playoff win, division title and a 20-10 TD to Int ratio oughta do it.

Go luck Alex.

Uteology
Fort Worth, Texas

@Duckhunter
Smith was the overall number 1 draft pick in the NFL draft. That is the sort of player that should be a can't miss stud, period.

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Jamarcus Russell was a #1 draft pick in 2007, how's he doing? No such thing as "can't miss stud". Steve Young was considered a "bust" playing for the horrible Buccaneers, only when he came to play for a dynasty and learn under a Hall of Fame QB did he excel.

As a 49er I am HIGHLY disappointing in Alex Smith but I also know that its not all is fault. However, if he fails this year then Alex is a good long-term backup (ala Heisman winner Ty Detmer).

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@tomahawk red

Another ute "fan" that cares deeply about what I post.

LOL!

P.S. Smith is a very poor qb. I challenge you to show otherwise.

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