Martin, Willie companies' stories told with flair
Great movie. Makes me wonder why we think we have life so hard.
Does anybody know when it will be showing in Southern Utah?
The Willie company was warned of snow and ice in the Sweetwater country by Levi
Savage at Florence, Nebraska Territory. James Willie denounced him for his lack
of faith and the company moved out on 16 August, Savage included.The
Martin company met with Elder Franklin D. Richards, the returning European
Mission President and Apostle who was in charge of the emigration, and other
returning elders, 24 August in Florence. After speeches and discussion, the
company voted to move on, and left Florence the following day, accompanied by
the Hunt and Hodgetts wagon companies. Chauncey Webb, the returning missionary
in charge of making handcarts, was the only dissenting voice at that meeting.
The Martin company and the wagon companies traveled together, some
100 miles behind the Willie company, or seven to eight days travel, until the
last crossing of the North Platte at present day Casper, Wyoming.
I couldn't find the phrase "LDS Films" or equivalent on the website or
in the trailer, but I did find it in youtube. The trailer was submitted to
youtube by LDSFilms.
The director says, "Hopefully they will learn things that will touch them
even more deeply and affect their lives," I can testify to that. I came
home and got on the net and began looking up the stories of the pioneers. What a
wonderful movie the the main actor was wonderful and deserves high praise indeed
for his performance.
@ Eidauk...Where in the story did it say this was an "LDS"
film? It mentions other films (some of which I think were LDS) that the filmaker
has done but I dont see it implied that this is an "official" LDS
project.People shouldn't be so uptight.. history is history and can
be told by whoever wants to tell it. Be glad it was done well.
Levi Savage was with the Willie Company. The Martin Company came to Iowa City
days later, and I wonder if members of the Martin company made their own
decision to go ahead, or if they defaulted to the decision of the Willie
Irony Guy. The prophetic counsel to go came from an Apostle. The only one to
speak against it was Levi Savage.If one goes to the Journal of
Discourses, Brother Brigham was not pleased with the prophetic counsel.
I just hope that the movie not only discusses the miracles, but also the human
tragedies. Not everyone in Willie and Martin Handcart companies survived. For
those the miracle didn't happen. In some cases they sacrificed themselves for
the good of other. That was the ultimate sacrifice. We are so focused on
miracles making happy endings, can we accept the sacrifice and human tragedies
that many times is the cost of the miracle. As what happened to an elderly man
in the Willie Handcart company who gave his portion of food to the children. He
died of starvation so others may have a chance to survive. Do we hear the
stories of paying tithing that result in going hungry or becoming homeless?
Aren't those the real stories of faith, sacrificing for something and not
receiving the necessary miracle, the result being a human tragedy?
Eidauk is right. People shouldn't imply endorsement of the LDS church when no
endorsement is given. Hopefully, visitors to the movie and youtube will have
enough common sense to know when the phrase being used refers to the culture of
the LDS people and not to the LDS church itself.My great grand
father was a member of the Martin Company,and my grandmother was born in Wyoming
as the company traveled to the Salt Lake valley. I'm looking forward to seeing
My great, great, great grandfather guarded Joseph & Hyrum Smith's casket
after they were killed. He later died from Pneumonia after guarding their
caskets in a rain storm, and my family had the opportunity to cross the plains
with the saints. I also had the opportunity 2 different times to walk, and carry
a hand cart 31 miles on the exact trail the Martin & Willey hand cart
companies walked. I did it in the middle of the summer when the weather was
perfect, and it was tough. I cannot even come to imagine the pain that they went
through. It was such a fun experience to be a Pa to a group of yound adults
pulling a hand cart up hills, over rocks, and down steep grades. I cannot wait
to see this movie. I would like to thank TC for making this movie. It is one
everyone should go and see. No matter what faith you believe in.
The MW companies should never have decided to go against prophetic counsel and
leave when they did, but having done so, they were redeemed in a beautiful way.
Interesting analogy to the Atonement of Christ.
I am truly humbled by what these early pioneers went thru.
Too bad these films naver make it out of Utah.....
Wish it was avaliable outside the Utah area. It would be nice to find an
uplifting movie to see. Oh well, I'll wait for it to come to DVD.
I'm sure this movie tells a very moving part of the history of the LDS people.
However, it is not an LDS film. To the author of the article and the film's
production company and to all companies that target the LDS population, please
refrain from calling these LDS products. There is no mention of this film on the
LDS Church's official website. It is not sanctioned nor approved by it either.
Freely associating a product with a religion is not only dangerous, but outright
deceit. Was Schindler's List a Jewish film? Was The DiVinci Code a Catholic
film? Was Big Love an LDS production? I am proud to be LDS and refuse to
patronize companies that, for marketing reasons, unofficially name-drop to
peddle their private endeavors to the LDS population.
I saw the film tonight. By all means, see it. It is very good.
My Great, great grandfather went from Scotland to Utah with his family. He was
a wheelwright and rather than go on with the Willie Company stayed a bit longer
and built carts, going with the Martin Company. Two of his family of 8 died on
the treck. His daughter, my great grandmother, was 8. She survived and in her
50's with two grown sons and a grown daughter, did it again to settle in
southern Alberta in Canada and build to second house in Raymond.She
died when nearly 90. God didn't make too many like that.
This is one of the greatest stories of the Mormon pioneers and of the entire
western movement. It is a profound story of heroism and faith. It is also a
story of miracles. Those who experienced it were greatly strengthened in faith.
They did not regret it. They knew they had felt and seen the hand of God.Levi Savage was a true hero. He tried to dissuade them from embarking
on this trek. He told them that he knew what he said was true, but that he
would go with them and, if necessary, die with them. He went with them and did
everything he could to help them. He managed to survive and lived be 90 years
I will probably see this movie.