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Martin, Willie companies' stories told with flair

Published: Thursday, June 2 2011 4:02 p.m. MDT

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toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

I will probably see this movie.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

This is one of the greatest stories of the Mormon pioneers and of the entire western movement. It is a profound story of heroism and faith. It is also a story of miracles. Those who experienced it were greatly strengthened in faith. They did not regret it. They knew they had felt and seen the hand of God.

Levi Savage was a true hero. He tried to dissuade them from embarking on this trek. He told them that he knew what he said was true, but that he would go with them and, if necessary, die with them. He went with them and did everything he could to help them. He managed to survive and lived be 90 years of age.

BobP
Port Alice, B.C.

My Great, great grandfather went from Scotland to Utah with his family. He was a wheelwright and rather than go on with the Willie Company stayed a bit longer and built carts, going with the Martin Company. Two of his family of 8 died on the treck. His daughter, my great grandmother, was 8. She survived and in her 50's with two grown sons and a grown daughter, did it again to settle in southern Alberta in Canada and build to second house in Raymond.

She died when nearly 90. God didn't make too many like that.

USA
Salt Lake City, UT

I saw the film tonight. By all means, see it. It is very good.

Eidauk
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm sure this movie tells a very moving part of the history of the LDS people. However, it is not an LDS film. To the author of the article and the film's production company and to all companies that target the LDS population, please refrain from calling these LDS products. There is no mention of this film on the LDS Church's official website. It is not sanctioned nor approved by it either. Freely associating a product with a religion is not only dangerous, but outright deceit. Was Schindler's List a Jewish film? Was The DiVinci Code a Catholic film? Was Big Love an LDS production? I am proud to be LDS and refuse to patronize companies that, for marketing reasons, unofficially name-drop to peddle their private endeavors to the LDS population.

GAmom
Athens, GA

Wish it was avaliable outside the Utah area. It would be nice to find an uplifting movie to see. Oh well, I'll wait for it to come to DVD.

J-TX
Allen, TX

Too bad these films naver make it out of Utah.....

Kami
Bountiful, Utah

I am truly humbled by what these early pioneers went thru.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

The MW companies should never have decided to go against prophetic counsel and leave when they did, but having done so, they were redeemed in a beautiful way. Interesting analogy to the Atonement of Christ.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

My great, great, great grandfather guarded Joseph & Hyrum Smith's casket after they were killed. He later died from Pneumonia after guarding their caskets in a rain storm, and my family had the opportunity to cross the plains with the saints. I also had the opportunity 2 different times to walk, and carry a hand cart 31 miles on the exact trail the Martin & Willey hand cart companies walked. I did it in the middle of the summer when the weather was perfect, and it was tough. I cannot even come to imagine the pain that they went through. It was such a fun experience to be a Pa to a group of yound adults pulling a hand cart up hills, over rocks, and down steep grades. I cannot wait to see this movie. I would like to thank TC for making this movie. It is one everyone should go and see. No matter what faith you believe in.

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

Eidauk is right. People shouldn't imply endorsement of the LDS church when no endorsement is given. Hopefully, visitors to the movie and youtube will have enough common sense to know when the phrase being used refers to the culture of the LDS people and not to the LDS church itself.

My great grand father was a member of the Martin Company,and my grandmother was born in Wyoming as the company traveled to the Salt Lake valley. I'm looking forward to seeing the movie.

woolybruce
Idaho Falls, ID

I just hope that the movie not only discusses the miracles, but also the human tragedies. Not everyone in Willie and Martin Handcart companies survived. For those the miracle didn't happen. In some cases they sacrificed themselves for the good of other. That was the ultimate sacrifice. We are so focused on miracles making happy endings, can we accept the sacrifice and human tragedies that many times is the cost of the miracle. As what happened to an elderly man in the Willie Handcart company who gave his portion of food to the children. He died of starvation so others may have a chance to survive. Do we hear the stories of paying tithing that result in going hungry or becoming homeless? Aren't those the real stories of faith, sacrificing for something and not receiving the necessary miracle, the result being a human tragedy?

BobP
Port Alice, B.C.

Irony Guy. The prophetic counsel to go came from an Apostle. The only one to speak against it was Levi Savage.

If one goes to the Journal of Discourses, Brother Brigham was not pleased with the prophetic counsel.

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

Levi Savage was with the Willie Company. The Martin Company came to Iowa City days later, and I wonder if members of the Martin company made their own decision to go ahead, or if they defaulted to the decision of the Willie company.

LeDoc
SLC, UT

@ Eidauk...

Where in the story did it say this was an "LDS" film? It mentions other films (some of which I think were LDS) that the filmaker has done but I dont see it implied that this is an "official" LDS project.

People shouldn't be so uptight.. history is history and can be told by whoever wants to tell it. Be glad it was done well.

Russ
Salt Lake City, UT

The director says, "Hopefully they will learn things that will touch them even more deeply and affect their lives," I can testify to that. I came home and got on the net and began looking up the stories of the pioneers. What a wonderful movie the the main actor was wonderful and deserves high praise indeed for his performance.

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

I couldn't find the phrase "LDS Films" or equivalent on the website or in the trailer, but I did find it in youtube. The trailer was submitted to youtube by LDSFilms.

tom jr.
north ogden, uT

The Willie company was warned of snow and ice in the Sweetwater country by Levi Savage at Florence, Nebraska Territory. James Willie denounced him for his lack of faith and the company moved out on 16 August, Savage included.

The Martin company met with Elder Franklin D. Richards, the returning European Mission President and Apostle who was in charge of the emigration, and other returning elders, 24 August in Florence. After speeches and discussion, the company voted to move on, and left Florence the following day, accompanied by the Hunt and Hodgetts wagon companies. Chauncey Webb, the returning missionary in charge of making handcarts, was the only dissenting voice at that meeting.

The Martin company and the wagon companies traveled together, some 100 miles behind the Willie company, or seven to eight days travel, until the last crossing of the North Platte at present day Casper, Wyoming.

MGB
Saint George, UT

Does anybody know when it will be showing in Southern Utah?

donquixote84721
Cedar City, UT

Great movie. Makes me wonder why we think we have life so hard.

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