Comments about ‘'Breach barriers of hate,' Pres. Dieter F. Uchtdorf tells L.A. council’

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Published: Saturday, May 28 2011 1:23 a.m. MDT

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So Cal Living
Stevenson Ranch, CA

We were there last night at the event. It was very well attended and the remarks were very well received.

My2Cents
Kearns, UT

To counter this socialist speaking and using the news media to promote socialism we must stand our ground even if it means violence and tragedy to defend our country from socialist. You keep your enemy's close, you don't love them.

Also very important is for every one to stand by their principles of decency, honesty, truth, god, country, and family. Many of these principles are considered hate principles because they offend those with no principles. Hate many times is associated with American principles of life, liberty, justice, and the American way of life.

Defending our borders is a hate crime according to illegal aliens and foreign nationals occupying this country and sanctioned in Utah. Trying to force illegal aliens back to Mexico by deproting is considered a hate crime by illegal aliens and advocates and the Deseret News.

If there is truly anything to hate is our governments neglect and criminal actions against americans wanting to preserve their country, their rights, their american way of life that is not always better living conditions or prosperity.

Diligent Dave
Logan, UT

Wow! What a great message. Now, if only a significant number of people would accept President Uchtdorf's invitation, that would start the ball rolling in the right direction!

I am hopeful that such might actually occur. The pessimist in me is fearful that it may not. But, perhaps, the Spirit of God may rest on enough so that, beyond and besides my and others' fears, it may yet happen!

peter
Alpine, UT

Now this is a good road map to building peaceful communities not just across America, but one day across the whole world. The world is not ready to follow such a map, but is America? I feel that the people are being prepared to follow such a course, but the political groups and parties lack this vision and direction. And, neither politics or religion will ever accomplish such a unity among the people. It will take a sound belief in correct principles to bridge the barriers of intolerance, greed, jealousy and hatred.

tom_e
Kaysville, UT

Last night on BBC I heard someone talk about how the people in the world should avoid country boundries and also effectively different laws for different countries. I wonder about groups like the one where Pres. Uchtdorf spoke. What is their purpose? Is it global economics, politics etc. If so I think the church should avoid politics.

sg
newhall, CA

Love they neighbor. Okay. Become one in faith and beliefs. Okay. However, this speech rings more about accepting illegals in our country and to turn the other cheek. Not okay. First and foremost, we must protect this country from those who deem it their duty and right to infiltrate our country illegally and then demand every inalienable right afforded to each lawful citizen as if they are entitled. Again, not okay. Bringing people unto Christ can be done just as effectively in the countries where illegals come from. Nice argument. But to continue to allow our country to be infiltrated and invaded by illegals who bring nothing to this country, no money, no national respect, non-English speaking skills continues to cripple this country. The anger by those of us who are legally here is understandable and frankly justified. Do it the right way in coming to this country or face the consequences. No church, no government has the right to ignore the laws of the land and personally I feel that this is the case. We can love the illegals from a distance; their own lands. But when you sneak into our country and make demands? Wrong again.

Spikey
Layton, UT

@My2Cents:

It says that you typed that at 3:36 in the morning. I have NO clue where that came from, or what it has to do with anything Pres. Uchtdorf said. Did you not only read the message, but take it into your heart?

The only way these changes can be made is through the individual changes in the heart of man. That means me. That means YOU. Stop worrying about the government that you can't control. Change your heart, and work to change the hearts of others...maybe eventually a heart or two in our government will change. Peace.

Laser
Iowa City, IA

Excellent comments. Should be well received by a christian nation.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

I knew it. Someone had to make this about socialism. If Pres Uchdtorf is a socialist then count me as one of his strongest supporters. Sorry MY 2 Cents. Your post borders on the ridiculous. And I am trying to be civil about it. One last thought I think Pres Uchdorf does support faith, family, deceny and all the other things you mentioned. Are you implying a counselor in the first Presidency does not. How absurd.

milojthatch
Sandy, UT

I support Pres. Uchdtorf and his message here. We need to take it to heart. I know it is the same message Pres. Monson or Pres. Eyring would give. The First President is a united front, defiantly when it comes to the public face and messages such as this one. Change your heart, get rid of hate, and be happy. :D

l.cee
Ridgefield, WA

@My2Cents

You speak of standing by decency and family in your message. But yet you negate your message when you also say "we must stand our ground even if it means violence and tragedy to defend our country from socialist." Which is it--decency or violence?

Work on the decency--your family will be blessed by that!

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

I have had comments "denied".

I have never advocated "...violence and tragedy..." as a means to indicate I was "standing my ground".

Identifying a member of the 1st Presidency as "socialist" and as an "enemy"?

As Donald Rumsfeld used to say, "Goodness Gracious".

the truth
Holladay, UT

RE: NeilT | 10:22 a.

I don't know if Pres. Uctdorf is a socialist, he may have grown up in socialist country and had no choice in th matter, but that does not mean he supports socialism or is a socialist.

In fact I can not find anything that suggests he does.

The church is all abouit invidual choice, indivudual liberty, and has always been so, even in Book of Mormon, times, does Moroni ring any bells,

the church has always been against big government which socialism is all about, forcing the individual to the will of big government run by elites who want run everyone life and business,

The chuch is all about individual liberty, individual organizations, doiing good by their own choice,thier own volition, hence all the good things the churuch does as mention by Pres. Uctdorf, education, humatarian efforts, welfare, teaching people to be good and motal people, good citizens, to do good,

not socialstic government compelled good.

As Pres. Uctdorf has shown the churc, and the gospel his all about loving each other, bringing people together in righeousness, and accomplishing much good, by thier own choice and volition.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Gut gesprochen, which translated means well spoken. Hate is of the Devil. Pure love is of God. Pure love does not deny the principles Christ preached and lived. That is what we need more in our lives. Examples of this pure love. Those who would comment that many of our wars have been started over religion must remember that those people claiming they were doing it for religion simply did not understand what the Love of Christ means and were doing their own thing without the approval of the spirit.

runwasatch
Ogden, UT

Love for an individual does not mean acceptance of immoral behavior.

Thankfully, the church and Elder Utchtdorg understand that.

dave
Park City, UT

My2Cents | 3:36 a.m. May 28, 2011
Kearns, UT
"To counter this socialist speaking and using the news media to promote socialism we must stand our ground even if it means violence and tragedy to defend our country from socialist. You keep your enemy's close, you don't love them."

Jesus said:
"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5.43-45 ESV)

How do you square that with your comment?

E. Matscheko
St. George, UT

Like so many times before, our Churches leadership has made me proud, again.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

If I understand 3 Nephi 9:20 -----anybody in the world (of any religion) can have the Holy Ghost with them; the requirement is a broken heart and meek spirit.

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

It is interesting how the church leadership (SLC leadership) has a much more moderate, compassionate, outreaching, global tone than many of the members. I do not think the church's message fits with the far right agenda.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Pres. Uchtdorf,

Is so..so..."Liberal".

God Bless him!

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