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  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    May 30, 2011 1:50 a.m.

    IMO. If the Jazz do not pulloff some miraculous trade involving picks, Okur/Bell in a trade. I would say keep the picks and go for Williams/Kantor with the 3. Fredette/ Singleton with the 12th.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    May 30, 2011 12:50 a.m.

    I am not sure there is any need to move up. MN is not going to get Rubio to come over. They may draft Knight. They may trade down but there is no guarantee that Knight or Kantor (the 2 players that could help them) will be there at 5 or below. They might also target Valanciunas but CLE may grad him at 4.

    I do not see the Jazz trading down. Knight, Williams, Kantor are to good for the Jazz to pass up. IF they got a great Vet then they might trade down.

    There also is not incentive to trade down with the 12 as there will be good options at 12. What if Biyombo slips to 12? Or Vesley. The board is very fluid.

    Of the 6, the Jazz are not interested in the guards but are just working bigs who they may invite to camp (according to slc dunk).

    It would not surprise me if the Jazz take Knight at 3 if MN does not take him.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 30, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    Another think KOC said was they may draft 2 small or 2 bigs, depends on BPA, if that is the case this trip to Europe may be to see Biyombo, Donatas, Vesely, Jonas V. and if things fall right they could take Kanter and one of them.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 29, 2011 11:42 p.m.

    I think we ought to package Tomic and either move up or get extra picks.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 29, 2011 11:40 p.m.

    Listening to KOC tonight of ch.5 he said they will draft the best player available, we knew that, but he said they need size and that best player isn't the best player now, but who will be the best player in 3 yrs. That changes things a little. That could lend to drafting young players like Kanter or Knight.
    Trib. reported that after interviewing and working out Kanter, KOC and staff will fly to Europe and possibly look at Vesely and Biyombo.

  • LAJazzFan Los Angeles, CA
    May 29, 2011 11:31 p.m.

    Maybe the Jazz believe that Irving, Williams and Kanter will either not be available or not work out (such as Kanter's knees or his attitude towards the Jazz).

    In this case, do the Jazz really want an off ball combo guard, which is what Knight, Walker and Jimmer seem to be? I don't think so. In fact, I am not sure if any of these are better than DHarris.

    If the above holds true, then trade down. There are some intriguing prospects in Singleton, Brooks, Hamilton, Biyombo and Jeremy Tyler.

    Also, I've read that they like the kid from Cleveland St. Maybe they are looking for either a pure pg, or maybe someone to bring in during Fall camp.

    At this point, I have no clue, but it is getting interesting.

    By the way, for those thinking Tomic is coming over soon- he is not. Period, at least for a few more years, if ever.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    May 29, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    The Jazz need Williams. I noted that when the leagues MVP (guard) ran into LeBron, the guard became mortal in a hurry. In fact the MVP award should have been LeBron's based upon how Cleveland who won their division last year did without LeBron this season.

    Williams has the most upside of any at or close to the top 3 picks. The Jazz had their allstar PG and it did not win them any awards. They need talented bigs with Haris at PG and maybe a Price replacement at #12.

    Trades are always available but the Jazz need to find homes for Bell and CJ, Okur is probably untradeable in his current state.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    May 29, 2011 10:20 p.m.

    I have no problem with the Jazz doing their homework. They are going to draft Williams, Kantor on Knight with the 3 if they keep it. They aleady have workouts with them or know what they need to know.

    The 12 pick is more open but Morris was one name associated with the Jazz at 12.

    There are a lot of teams with late first round picks for sale in a weak draft.

    The Jazz MIGHT be able to move Bell to MN for the 20th pick or in a 3 way as MN wants to dump Flynn and the Jazz do not need him. They may also be able to move CJ if they want to. Or they could be looking at moving Millsap IF they have decided on Kantor.

    However, Millsap is worth a lot more than a lotto pick in a weak draft.

    Many players who might be good for the Jazz will get taken by teams where they do not fit and will be available next year for cheap after being dumped.

    Let the whole thing play out. The Jazz might also trade this year's 12 for a lotto pick next year.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 29, 2011 4:17 p.m.

    Your right we don't have a second round pick but trades which could include #12 or players could bring picks in the late 1st or early 2nd. Plus they try to get to know players in case they want to make trades at a later date. It's all part of them doing their homework.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    May 29, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    Captain: If I recall, the Jazz have not second round picks this year. So why would you bring in second round players? Makes no sense unless you are looking to make some moves before the draft. The #3 pick is being traded away...........

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    May 29, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    We will probably have at least 4 or 5 new players on this team next year, either through draft, trade, or free agency.

    I think a lot is going to happen between now and the start of training camp, the new CBA deal might allow the Jazz to pull off deals that normally they would shy away from, knowing that they might be able to keep a player long term and not have to worry about them bolting as a free agent.

    Example: Having the ability to use a "franchise tag", and be able to keep players in Utah and not lose them to free agency will play a huge factor for the Jazz and other small market teams.

    I know I dont want to see another Bosh, James fiasco, both Toronto and Cleveland tried everything they could to keep their star players. When money is not enough to keep a player on a team that drafted them or traded the house to get a player, they should be able to keep that player with a "FT".

    If a franchise tag of some sort is not implemented, it will put all small market teams in a very tough place.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 29, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    Miles, what makes you think the Jazz are doing anything in the way of trades, nothing has been said, they always bring in players that are 2nd round or late 1st , you never know what proposals will come from other teams and you need to be prepared. This kind of things happens every year. Of this group, there are several that are interesting, Tyler is somewhat like Favors, Morris is a 6'10 PF who can shoot from outside, Johnson is a very athletic 4, who can shoot, needs weight, he's moving up the boards, Mack is intriguing as a possible point guard, strong, athletic, scorer/shooter. You never know where you may find a diamond in the ruff.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 29, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    Sounds like the Jazz are just getting their feet wet in analyzing this year's draft talent. They might be looking for a sleeper in the bunch.

    They'll be getting more players in over the next few weeks.

    If the Jazz don't re-sign Watson, they'll definitely get a PG with one of their picks, unless there's something out there better than Watson in the free agent market, or a trade.

    They can't go into next year with only Harris + Watson/whoever. They need three PGs on the roster.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    May 29, 2011 12:21 a.m.

    Something smells? Why are the Jazz wasting time with these 6 players? Why is there any need to trade either of the two picks? Just keep them and use them. I have the feeling that the #3 pick is going to someone else. Kevin knows his ability to draft a good player at the #3 pick is questionable. He is now trying to save face by trading it away. He is not a risk taker.

  • jazzfan86 American Fork, UT
    May 28, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    I'm surprised there is so much support in these postings for trading down. To be honest when I read this article I felt frustrated that KOC doesn't want or isn't able to bring in higher rated prospects. I understand there is always that idea that a team can get a steal at a later pick but all these years when the Jazz had the later picks in the draft why did Eric Maynor turn out to be the only decent one. O'Conner does not draft well in the 15-30 range if experience is any indicator. He needs to stick with the picks he has, trade up, or trade for some experienced NBA players. Remember we traded D-Wil and gave up any chance we had to get to the playoffs to get draft picks with high potential. Not late first rounders.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    May 28, 2011 10:04 p.m.

    Johnson72: They do not regularly schedule home games on Sunday, because many Jazz fans are also LDS and are trying to follow their church's counsel and teachings. The exception is during the playoffs, because they do not have an option then. The NBA has been fair to the Jazz to set the regular season schedule so as few, if any, games are played on Sunday at Energy Solutions Center. But many Jazz employees, coaches, etc. do work on Sunday when necessary, especially during draft time and to travel to other areas to check out various possible future players.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    May 28, 2011 8:57 p.m.

    trading up on a weak draft would be good...the pressure of drafting a certain player would be gone...plus...we might find the gem of the draft....i think its Singleton...or Jeremy Tyler...

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    May 28, 2011 8:21 p.m.

    Anything will be an upgrade over Price,Watson and Bell. Too bad Bell is still on the roster with a guaranteed contract, because he just doesnt have it anymore. I doubt Watson will be back, so you would think the highest priorty is resigning CJ because of need and draft more back court help.

    The Jazz have assets to make a trade for a star, keep that in mind when you are speculating on what this team is going to do next.

    If Memo can come back and be a decent player again, that would give us a powerful front court.

  • Seattleview Federal Way, WA
    May 28, 2011 8:16 p.m.

    I would hope the Jazz would trade to get the 2nd pick. They have more to offer thann Cleveland does, at least as far as trading the next highest draft pick. I think Williams is a natural small forward that would fit in with Utah (team and city) quite well. Trading down is not going to get them impact players that they need. Doesnt the Jazz have a center playing in Europe that was getting good reviews last year? Cant he buy out his own contract and come to Utah this year?

  • JT Texas Midland, TX
    May 28, 2011 7:34 p.m.

    Marshon Brooks is Morris Almond part 2

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 28, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    OOps, Detroit is now denying that 3 way trade will happen.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 28, 2011 6:59 p.m.

    Chad Ford is saying there is a rumor that Clev. is trying to get the 1st and 2nd picks in a 3 team trade. Det. would trade Hamilton & #8 to Clev. players to be named, Clev. would use the trade exception obtained in James trade. Clev. would then trade #4 and #8 to Minn. for #2. Clev. would then pick Irving and Williams.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 28, 2011 6:41 p.m.

    JazzNation: I too really like M. Brooks, he could be the steal of the draft, he's proven he can be a scorer and he's athletic, fast, good hops, 7'1 wingspan, he does look alot like Koby when you watch him, if the Jazz take Knight at 3, I'd look seriously at Brooks at 12. I also like Singleton at 12, he's a long, athletic 3, that can really play D. My preference is Kanter and Jimmer but I like Brooks and Singleton too. Biyombo is a player I would love to see us get somehow, he is so active, aggressive, tough, he's what we need in the middle. Who ever ends up with him will get a good deal, IMO.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    May 28, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    The T-Wolves don't need Williams because they have the 3 and 4 covered with Kevin Love and Michael Beasley. The Wolves desperately need a center. I hope I smell a trade here involving the Jazz's #3 and #12 for the Timberwolves' #2 and #20. That would allow the Jazz to grab Williams, who they could plug right in at SF and who would be their starter at that position for the next decade. The T-Wolves would then take Kanter at #3.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    May 28, 2011 4:24 p.m.

    If the Jazz are going to make some moves and end up with a player after the 15th pick, we need Marshon Brooks!

    Brooks was the nations 2nd leading scorer behind Jimmer. No joke, his game looks just like Koby Bryant's game. When I watch his high lights, I cant beleive he is not getting more national attention. Many experts feel like he will be the steal of the 2011 draft. Every year there are players that fall, Landry fields last year is a good example.

    This kid Brooks has a 7'1 wing span, he has great range,athleticism and he would help fill the need at shooting guard.

    The fact that the Jazz are looking at these players make me think that KOC has something big planned. Maybe trade Harris?

    Rumor has it that Russel Westbrook might get moved?? I would send both first round picks and Harris for Westbrook.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 28, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    MiP: I don't think we have a second round pick this year.
    I agree we need to keep the #3 pick, I'm hopeing it will be Kanter or Williams but it may end up being Knight. KOC and the FO are doing their homework, so I'll trust they will figure out who would be the best. If it's Knight it will be because they think he has the most upside, right now I haven't heard enough to make me think he's the guy but we'll see.
    Somehow I wish we could get Biyombo, he plays with such energy and passion and controls the paint, we could use that.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    May 28, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    In a draft that is expected to be not very deep, you draft the best players available---you don't trade your top pick to get two lower picks. That's bad business. The Jazz need top talent, not mediocrity.

    If the Jazz can pull this off: Derrick Williams at the 3, Jimmer at the 12, and a soild big in the second round, they will get an "A" for sure.

    Here's hoping that will happen.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 28, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    JFFR & Johnson72,

    It's funny how the "no-Sunday" policy can exist outside of BYU's sports.

    Interesting because so much is made of AQ conferences maybe not wanting BYU because of that, yet here we have the Utah Jazz in the NBA abiding by it.

    Money's the reason for the Jazz, of course, but still, interesting.

    Makes me wonder how thin a Ute's crowd will be for home games in basketball (football, too?) on Sundays in Pac-12 play.

    Bet they haven't thought about THAT very much as yet!

    "Oh, we're not BYU, but please don't schedule any league home games for us on Sundays."

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 28, 2011 10:24 a.m.

    Outside of Watson, whom I hope the Jazz re-sign, the Jazz currently don't have a "pure" PG--one that can run the team effectively and distribute (get assists). However, Watson isn't a starting PG season-long. Excellent backup PG, though. Which is why the Jazz should retain him.

    In Harris, and similarly for some of the highly-touted PGs in this year's draft, you basically have Iverson-types. Not good for running a team.

    In the draft, it's debatable which PGs are future "pure" NBA PGs. Like Stockton, Nash, Kidd, etc.

    My money is on Jimmer, because he's shown he CAN make great passes and involve his teammates (if you watched enough of his games over his BYU career, you'd have seen that).

    It just didn't appear that way in Jimmer's senior year because of a lack of scoring options with his teammates. With the Jazz, Jimmer's PG skills would flourish. Especially with pick-an-rolls with Big Al and penetrate-and-pass-outs with Hayward.

    One of the main keys that all NBA superstars have is their ability to put constant pressure on defenses. Jimmer does that!

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    @Johnson72, they don't have home games on Sunday because they can't sell out stadiums. Its a financial decision.

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    The trade with the Wizards is an option. Kanter wants to go there and Washington needs a pf to play alongside Mcgee.

    We trade down from 3 get the 6th and the 18th plus our 12th. Draft Jimmer with the 6th. Singleton with the 12th. And Marshon Brooks with the 18th. We get our pg, our defensive SF (very raw offensively) and another 2 guard who has the skills to come in and challenge right away for a starting spot.

    We win the daft in this scenario. And we would be loaded with weapons at every position

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2011 8:21 a.m.

    What??... The jazz don't wor on Sunday!

  • bobby d Beaver, UT
    May 28, 2011 6:52 a.m.

    Why dont we trade the #3 and maybe a guy like Fes to Dallas for Tyson Chandler. Jason Kidd is getting up there in the years and I am sure they would like a Brandon Knight. The Jazz are very young and need a little more experienceWe need Tyson Chandler

  • lukekeeler EVANSVILLE, WY
    May 28, 2011 6:50 a.m.

    Perhaps the 3rd to the Wizards for their 6th and 18th? Jazz could pick up Knight, Leonard, or Vassely with the 6th, Jimmer with the 12th, and one of today's work out bunch with the 18th. Many teams are high on Kanter and are looking to trade up to get him. Utah can pick up a solid player in the 4 to 7 range with a small trade down a couple of spots.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    May 28, 2011 12:42 a.m.

    Cleveland's 2nd round pick is where most of these players are gathered around.
    Maybe they're trading pick 3 plus something for Irving and that 2nd round pick?

  • Maverick West Jordan, UT
    May 27, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    Selby and Tyler are highly underrated players...we should pick both of them up. Why do we want Knight when we have Harris? I don't get why teams don't like Harris, the man was an All-Star.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 27, 2011 10:31 p.m.

    Trading down draft spots gains nothing, unless a great current NBA player is picked up via such a trade. Too weak of a draft to get anything lasting from it with lower picks.

    Trading up very well could get the Jazz the two players they covet the most, whoever they turn out to be. But, if they really don't covet two, or even one, then trading down for a current NBA top player would make sense.

    Getting Williams 3rd and Jimmer 12th would be ideal for what's available in this weak draft (and where they're drafting), but that is unlikely to happen.

    I suspect Jazz fans are going to be both elated and disappointed, but not at the same time--different fans will have those two reactions. Kind of like with drafting Hayward last year.

    Guess how HE turned out!

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    May 27, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    Better to trade up from 12 for someone and keep the #3 pick. I think Knight will be gone by pick #4, anyway.

  • Indy05 Peoria, AZ
    May 27, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    According to Jonathan Givony (Draft Express), the Jazz are looking to trade up or trade down. He said they are looking at a lot of different scenarios. So my bet is that we are not going to have the 3rd and 12th picks on draft day.

    If we are focused on getting Knight, which most act like we are, he will still be available at the 5th or 6th spot so we could probably trade down and still get him.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    May 27, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    Mack is someone Hayward knows well. He does have PG experience with the pick-and-roll and he has played a lot of 2-guard at Butler. He has good size, maybe a little bigger than D-Will, but he is probably looking at a career as a back-up NBA point, although he needs to work on developing his point guard skills. Apparently a good all-around player who we might see at sometime next year on a trial contract. Would love to see him try and score against Gordon.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    May 27, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    These players are late first round to second round material...beyond the Jazz's two current draft picks so I'm sure a trade is coming up or they are taking account of all possibilities.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 27, 2011 8:26 p.m.

    You never know what will happen on draft day, teams make trades and swap picks and maybe some of these players will end up being players the Jazz would consider taking if they make trades etc that cause them to have late 1st round picks or early 2nd round picks.
    Tyler weighs 250 or more now and and Johnson is an interesting possibility, long athletic, and shoots pretty good. Mack could sneak into the 1st round.

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    May 27, 2011 8:18 p.m.

    with these 6 guys working out - smells like the jazz are working on a trade - for picks in the late first round