It is interesting how we can make fun of this Camping prediction (I did all
weekend) and criticize the posts of Silas Bril and Vanka. I think it clearly
shows how comfortable we can become with our personal beliefs or worldview even
though they can seem absolutely silly to others. I'm sure Camping
will have some explanation that appeases his followers just as we have all come
up with very logical (to us) explanations as to why Joseph Smith's statement was
actually prophetic rather than remotely incorrect. I am not being
critical. It is simply human nature that we find a spiritual and logical peace
with the beliefs that are important to us. But let's just maintain a bit of
balance and common sense by recognizing that those beliefs we have become so
comfortable with are often truly strange and even laughable to others. Just as
their's can be to us. It is the nature of religion, spirituality and faith.
What Obama and Harold Camping have in common:1. Both are
millionaires.2. Both have people believing in them.3. Both make
false predictions.4. Both use the Christian word to entice a following.It's time to open our minds.
Beware of false prophets. However, there is a true prophet living
on the earth today.Christ himself states that even HE doesn't know
when the time is. Only His Father knows. Clearly no one, no matter how good at
math, has ANY idea when it is. We are told only to watch for the signs that
will tell us that the time is near.
The Scriptures tell of of false prophets in the last days, it talks about Christ
returning in glory and ruling on this earth for 1,000 years before this world
comes to an end as we know it, and the scriptures also say not even the Son of
Man knows that day, so how would some self-appointed cleric know the day using
math. The Lord's reply to Joseph when he would come if Joseph
reached the age of 85 shows me the Lord has a dry sense of humor. He told
Joseph to get on with more important things.If you live the correct
life, according to Christ and His Father, you will not fear the end of the world
as we know it.
@Silas Brill - I'm curious about the foundation of your faith that God does not
exist, and that all religions are equally false and dishonest. What is the
supreme and all-knowing source of your enlightenment on the subject?Those who make the effort are able to prove - to themselves individually - the
reality of God and eternal spiritual truths, and the blessings of faith. They
can never prove it to you.Without a "revelation" on the
matter from a source more intelligent than you, how do you claim to know the
final truth of the absence of God and spiritual existence? And why would anyone
who believes you and their own limited intelligence be any less gullible than
someone who is open enough to make the effort of spiritual discovery?
'Moving on after no sign of the apocalypse' - Title Yeah. But it was a great fear-tactic.
Vanka... you don't understand. Joseph Smith was martyred in 1844, when he was
just 39 years old... hence, he never reached the age of 85. That is why Jesus
didn't come back. It's all true. Face-palm.
To all the people of faith who look down their noses at the rapture forecasters,
look down your nose at yourself. If these FamilyRadio people seem gullible,
look in the mirror. Your religion - no matter how liberal or enlightened - is
no less beguiling, is no less fictitious, requires no less gullibility, requires
no less intellectual dishonesty. The risk of people being so easily fooled is a
threat to society. It's not morality. It's people manipulation. Yes, our
Constitution says Congress shall make no law inhibiting one's right to practice
religion. Instead, we should all voluntarily lay down our Bibles and Korans and
just walk away.
And to think, these people vote!Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.P. T. Barnum was right. There IS a sucker born every minute.Enough
to make Harold Camping a millionaire.Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.
What you like about this is that it proves their religion to be wrong. which would make them want to come to yours. Not so much.It could
have just been a mistake in the math. Somthing could have happened in the center
of the Earth to cause a Chain reaction that will cause the Word to end or the
World as we know it. i.e. Man the pairasite.They say the Roach will
inhairit the Earth, but I think it is a much closer Reac because because I can
withstand being stepped on by a Shoe.However a Female Roach lays an
egg it has 16 baby Roaches in it so their is always over population.We are in Much more trouble if Earths, Moon gets hit by a big rock changes
orbit etc. Mans life support system is a very narrow span. Nothing you can do
about the Weather, Nothing you can do about the end of the World.The
poor and Meek are only going to Inhairit the Earth, after everyone else is gone
and the resources are all used up.Grace after all that we can do.
In reality it is not happening anytime soon.The end of Man perhaps
but not the World. Man is not the World.The World existed before man
and will exist in some form after Man. That coming out of the Ground
Stuff to retake your perfact body is Not and never will happen. Most people
including many Mormons and Christains in General are Cremated. Ashes are
scattered and if forgotton over time, become Door stops and end up in swap
meets. I bought some once at a swap meet.They sent my Dad to be U.S.
Mail (No Postage was not do) he love his Mail and i could think of No better way
to ship him from Arizona to Vegas. Right now he sits on a bookcase at the end of
my hallway. I set a place for him at Holiday meals, Box still in Mailing Waraper
and his best picture taken when he was about 91. Dad lived to 93 and his Sister
lived till 109 with No one taking care of her baic needs. Evan if
the End did happen there is nothing much you can do about it. So don't be
Well, as I type this from heaven, I feel sad for all you who mock. Rapture was
great for me today. Have fun on earth. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
hey toto am I still in Kansas LOL !
If the angels in Heaven don't know the time, then how is a human being going to
know the time? Get real!
Looks like it didn't happen!
What time is it? Pinch me, am I here?
In Doctrines and Covenants section 130, Joseph Smith wrote:(14)
"I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the
Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following:(15) Joseph,
my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the
face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on
this matter.(16) I was left thus, without being able to decide
whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some
previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face.(17) I believe the coming of the Son of Man will not be any sooner than that
time."Smith is later recorded as having said:"I prophesy in the name of the Lord God, and let it be written--the Son
of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am eighty-five years
old."Smith would have reached 85 during 1890. By then, Smith
had been dead for almost half a century.
If they keep predicting the end enough times, one of them may finally get it
right, but it will be simply by chance, not by vision, nor by the Spirit telling
them. I can keep predicting each year at the beginning of the
baseball season that the Cubs will win the World Series. If I do it long enough
and enough times probability, regardless of how great the odds are, says I will
eventually get it right.
Dang...I wish one of those rich freaks had given me their Mercedes or BMW before
they skipped the planet. That would have been sweet action.