Brit Johnson on 1320 said the same thing Jimmer's uncle says in this article.
Brittle also said that Jimmer plays better Defense than people give him credit
for.Jimmer will surprise alot of teams at the combine.
It's so nice to see our Utah boys exceed expectations. I like the fact that the
media downplays their talent. It makes the coming out party all the better. Show em what you got Jimmer!
Fascinating article. Good background on the training that elite athletes need to
progress to the next level. Jimmer seems to be highly motivated to keep getting
Good luck Jimmer you're going to need it!!! Hope you learned how to play
I don't think anyone who has watched The Jimmer play more than once can say he
is not "athletic". He may surprise a few at the combine but I think
most scouts understand that he is what he is... a scoring machine. And the best
basketball player ever to come out of the state of Utah.
People everywhere... espeically know it alls like ESPN's Collin Cowherd... and
his itsy bitsy buddy Hedgie up in Ann Arbor still don't realize Jimmer is
actually very good on defense...but with Chris Collinsworth's season ending
injury early in conference play... Rose started realizing that Jimmer had to be
in the game for most of the 40 minutes and not sitting on the bench... So he
purposfully started having Jimmer back off and keep him from drawing the
defensive fouls. It became even more critical when Brandon Davies was suspended.
His drawing double and triple coverage moving the ball down court was more than
enough to offset his aggressive defensive style that... I'm sure even Jimmer
himself had a really tough time holding back. His tough competitive nature is
phenominal. If there is a way to beat you Jimmer Fredette is the type of talent
that will find that key and will keep bringing it at you regardless of which
direction the ball is going.
It's going to be fun to continue to watch Jimmer and see how his work ethic pays
off. There is a lot more Jimmer to come.
It's all that time in Sunday School that helps him be so fast.Go
Jimmer! Jimmer them all at the combine!
" I like the fact that the media downplays their talent."Seer,Clearly your not talking about the Dnews.
Yet, someone who hasn't seen him, hasn't seen his workouts, doesn't understand
him, or what he has accomplished is going to write an article that says that he
is...Too slow.Too short.Nonathletic.can't play
defense.Imply that he is too white and pasty.That he is a Sunday
school boy. And the Ute trolls, who searched out the article will
come back here and tell us why he won't succeed in the NBA.We'll
see.My bets on Jimmer.
someday MVP of the NBA. Go Jimmer. Which ever team drafts him is my favorite
I hope the naysayers take note. He's going to be a very good NBA player. Keep
Wherever he lands in the NBA will become my new favorite team.
Defense, give me a break! Jimmer will do just fine. Like Barkley said "90%
of the NBA players don't play Defense"
If Jimmer ever plays, he'll have to guard guys like Derrick Rose, Deron
Williams,Ray Allen, Aaron Brooks, Tony Parker, A.J. Mayo. I believe (in the
right systems like Phoenix, NY or Denver) he will get a chance to play. Derrick
Rose will make Jimmer looks silly. Jimmer has range and may get an opportunity.
The best players will be chomping at the bit to make Jimmer look bad. Hopefully
he'll be up for the challenge.
Honor Code you will be mighty surprise at his defensive skills. His teammates
said in practice he was a great defender. Pay attention to what Where's
Stockton said and go back and read what his coach said about defense. Please
get a clue.
All Jimmer has to do to display he extraordinary talent is to show tapes of his
performance against the Utees! Oh wait, they have no defense..well ok,
nevermind! How about the tapes of his games against Gonzaga, SDSU and NM!
How Jimmer performs at the combine will be interesting, I too think he is more
athletic than most people give him credit for. I hope he can perform at his best
and give his best times in the quickness and speed areas.I'd love to see
the Jazz take Jimmer, if they did it would be because they think he is the best
player available and will help the team win, not because he has a big name
coming out of college. Jimmer would bring to the Jazz something they very much
need, great outside shooting. Defense is mostly determination and hard work if
you have the athleticism and if Jimmer shows he has above avg. quickness and
speed, defense is something he can improve on with hard work and his defense
won't be the liability some think it is.
I am one huge Utah fan that loves Jimmer's game. I am very excited to see what
he can do in the NBA. Best of luck to you Jimmer!
RE: KamUte"Derrick Rose will make Jimmer looks silly."Have you ever seen Jimmer play? The Jimmer will make Derrick Rose look
Re: Indiana CougThe Jimmer won't make anyone look silly if he rarely
plays. J.R. Smith is hot and cold Just like Jimmer. J.R. Is yanked when a stop
is needed. Jimmer shot under 40% in college 3 pt range. That is a normal jump
shot in the NBA. Derrick Rose will run circles around Jimmer. Again
Jimmer won't be playing much unless he goes to an up tempo team or Europe. You will see. Lay off the blue koolaid at this point. Marriott Center
has not produced any great NBA talent in the past 34 years.
I just hope and pray the Jazz don't feel pressured into taking this one
dimensional player. If the do infact take the jimer the Jazz will forever be a
bottom feeder team... and most likely dissolved or moved to another city.
@kamuteSo the comparison you want to use to try and establish that
Jimmer isn't very good is Derrik Rose? If I'm not mistaken he is the NBA MVP. So
if the MVP of the NBA can "run circles around Jimmer" that proves
exactly what? Once again it is just a guess on my part but the NBA MVP generally
runs acircles around pretty much everyone else in the entire NBA doesn't he?
Isn't that maybe the reason why he is the NBA MVP?So what I get from
your post is that if the list of guys like Rose, Williams, Parker, etc., that
pretty much run circles around everyone in the league, including each other,
runs circles around Jimmer then he is somehow inferior to them in some manner.
Boy that is sure enlightening.
The Jazz should take note. If he is good and he will draw fans, then there goes
draft pick number 12. Enos Kanter should still be their number one priority.
They should even trade up from six to get him. He is a "beast". The
Jazz still need to "shake up' their team. They have a very good core of
players and if Corbin steps up", they will be alright. The "tattoo
man" now has to go. It appears that Harris has "gone into the
tank". Favors is the "real deal". Someone really has to
"earn their money" and evaluate the team. The status quo is no good.
@ hedgehogIt seems you posts are losing steam... or self-esteem.
@HedgieJimmer Fredette one dimenional?..That's right I forgot... Hedgehogs
are myoptic. They only see things if they are very close and then sniff them
over once or twice to identify what it is that's in front of them. That's why
they get lost at night and have to wait for daylight to sniff out thier burrows.
No wonder they were so easy to catch when I was in England. They just curled up
to a little round spiney ball. Nothing was going to bite them with all those
spines. That's also explains the one dimensional comments coming from the edge
of the Great Black Swamp up there in Ann Arbor. Now things about you Hedgie
sort of make sense.
Brit Johnson said what? Isn't he a former Ute? How does a former Ute
(who played the game) say all that, while these 9-5 garbage truck men ie:
Kamute say he wont see the court...You been drinking too much haterade and its
frothing out your mouth.
Whoever drafts Jimmer will get a two-fer. They'll get his production, plus
increased production from everyone else on the floor.NBA bodies are
HUGE, and spacing is a real problem. Jimmer's range will open up the court for
everyone else on it. No one will ever leave him to double team anyone else. He
won't last that long, but can you imagine how much Orlando or Miami or LAL would
like to have Jimmer?
@duck hunter If it weren't enlighting, you would not have commented.
Right? Guys that will run circles around the Jimmer: Carlos Arollo,
John Lucas, DeMarre Carroll, Luke Walton, Marcus Banks, Lance Stefanson, A.J.
Price, etc. Who? Exactly!
I kinda actually hope he surprises me, but I think the balloon is about to be
popped and it is going to be a long hard fall. Hope all you Provo fans are all
around to catch him when it happens. The bubble bursting will be dramatic.
Mavs swept the Lakers.Who unexpectedly "exposed" the lack
of Laker defense, as well as just gave the Lakers fits?J.J.
Barea.6 ft. 175 lbs.Undrafted free agent, from
Northeastern College, 4 yrs in the NBA, 26 years old.Salary:
$1,815,000.Do the Mavs complain that J.J. can't play D?Do the Mavs complain that J.J. gets paid too much?Do the Mavs
complain that J.J. is not relentless?Do the Mavs complain that J.J.
is not tough enough?Will some team take a "chance" on
Jimmer?Who knows?As draft day approaches, the ideas,
that some team will be taking a big "chance" and/or will make a big
mistake, by drafting Jimmer, are ideas that will be "exposed".
RE: KamUte"Jimmer shot under 40% in college 3 pt range. That is
a normal jump shot in the NBA."I again ask, have you ever seen
The Jimmer play? His 40% 3 pt shooting was usually from NBA range and beyond.
That's why that super long distance range is now considered "Jimmer
range" by anyone who isn't a Ute. You do make a few valid
points. Yes, Derrick Rose will run circles around Jimmer... when he (Rose) is
on offense. So will the other premiere guards in the league. As has been
stated by others on this board, big deal. That's what NBA all-star caliber
players do to anyone who is defending them. I think there is strong evidence
that suggests Jimmer is more than capable of doing the same thing to them (ask
Kevin Durrant about that). And yes, there hasn't been Jimmeresque talent in the
Marriott in 34+ years. But that includes all of the Cougs opponents as well.
Jimmer is the best player to ever play college ball in the state of Utah.
Ummmmm Kam Ute: Rose makes everyone look silly!! You are such a Utah fan. Try
being a sports fan. It's better.
" Jimmer is the best player to ever play college ball in the state of
Utah.'Indianacoug,For someone from Bloomington I would
think you'd have a higher basketball IQ. But then again, your a Y fan... so that
explains it.jimer is not the best player ever to play in utah...that
honor goes to Andre Miller. I'd argue jimer isn't even the best BYU player.
Indiana CougYou'll just have to excuse old timers like me. Having
graduated from the Y in 81...I'm still partial to Danny Ainge as the Best BB
Player to ever come out of Utah despite the number of total field goal points,
foul shot points or 3 point percentages. If Jimmer had Ainges agility and finess
than there would be no question...hands down Jimmer would be. Ainge had
something very special that I've never seen in anyone other than Jim McMahon.
Both of them were the most savy players in their sport I've ever seen. When
they talk about Ainge it's always the Notre Dame game in the NCAA's. But
nobody even mentions his trip to the foul line against Notre Dame that only a
couple posessions earlier actually set up his coast to coast drive for the
winning basket. He drilled the first shot of a one and one and then took his
time preparing for the second shot. He didn't shoot the second shot. Instead
heintentionally ovehanded theball right at the rim of the basket wentup and got
his own rebound and laid in for two points...a triple.
Good luck to Jimmer. I'd like to see him do well. Good kid.As far as
the best player to come out of Utah, you'd have to define what that entails. Is
Jimmer a Golen Falls product or a state-of-Utah product? Andrew Bogut,
Austrailian or Utahn. If you are to say it's any player to have played amateur
basketball in this state, then Jimmer certainly would be in the Top-10. But the
best? That will be debatable for quite some time...
RE: hedgehog"jimer is not the best player ever to play in
utah...that honor goes to Andre Miller. I'd argue jimer isn't even the best BYU
player."I'd love to hear your argument. RE: Where's
StocktonO.K., granted I was only a kid during Ainge's hayday so I
have no business comparing the two. I wish I had been able to experience those
early 80s days at the Y. And, quite frankly, I wish I could transplant the
current BYU b-ball and football teams to Indiana. We haven't had much to cheer
about round here for a while (except for our Butler friends up the road). I still hold that Jimmer's quickness off the dribble will give future
NBAers fits, even if he does play limited minutes.
NBA Scouts has seen plenty of him and more to come when come to combine. Who
cares what other people (non nba proffesionals) think of him. Enjoy Jimmer and I
will watch more of you in NBA!
IndianaCougarYou're doing fine...don't worry about it. I'm just
here to tame a hedgehog that every now and then pops his head up out of his
hole. He's like that gopher in Caddy Shack.Jimmer's the real
deal...he's got the goods...His range is already NBA. And he plays with heart.
That alone says a lot about him.Now then... ever hear of Dick
Namelka???Oh...and if Collie doesn't get forced into early
retirement and they get him a better Helmet...Manning and the boys will be back.
I just hope my 49's under Jim Hargrove will finally crawl back over the edge.
@IndianaCougoops... I meant Jim Harbaugh of the 49er's. The other guy was
a politician...big difference.
Mike Bibby is about the same size as Jimmer, known for being a great shooter and
lacking on defense. If he can have a serviceable NBA career (12 yrs in the
league, 15 pts and 6 assists per game for his career), I would think Jimmer
could be in the ballpark. Most reasonable fans don't think he will be an
all-star, but he certainly could have a good career.
All I know is that BYU won 32 games and advanced to the Sweet 16 with only one
real scoring threat in Jimmer. All I know is Oscar Robertson said that even
though other teams defenses were devised to stop Jimmer, he still scored 29
points a game. All I know is that he was the unaminous player of the year in
College. All I know is that he will be a top 1st round pick and there are
several teams hoping to draft him. All I know is that most basketball experts,
save Ute trolls, believe Jimmer will be a great NBA player. The idea of
trying to convince a Ute troll, who comments far too often on BYU articles, is
an exercise in insanity and should be considered unintelligent at best.Jimmer has been successful and therefore will be successful.
I thought I was done with Ute trolls babblings about Jimmer after I "marked
it down" dozens of times and every time they were wrong. I suppose all the
real experts are wrong about Jimmer who have him pegged to be drafted anywhere
between 4 and 20, with most of them predicting somewhere between 7 and 14. Why
would I listen to the experts when I have kam utie and heghogie to rely on? I'm
sure they know more than the experts.Why do you continue to
embarrass yourself with your erroneous comments that are only driven by hatred
Hedgehog is all knowing. He was in charge of draft-day for the Jazz when they
drafted Luther Wright. Listen to him. He is an excellent judge of talent.
If you watched the playoffs it was obvious the Jimmer was quick and fast when he
wanted to be. The announcer's jaw dropped in mid sentence when Jimmer
momentarily kicked it in to defend a fast break. Jimmer is a fast as many of the
vaunted NBA guards of his size. He is as quick/fast as DWill and a
better shooter. He is not as fast/quick as D Rose, Aaron Brooks, Lawson. But he
will defend as well as DWill. @Hedge. Jimmer will fit Utah about as
well as DWill did. However, he would prefer a PHO/NY offense with more shooting
freedom. Even if he were a complete dud his drafting would have little impact on
Utah's future as they are poor at drafting. Jimmer will improve on D
and assists in the next 2 years. His real strength is his understanding of how
to run an offense/attack a defense and his shooting. Ainge became a
great player in his 3rd year in the NBA. Jimmer is better in college. Miller is
not that impressive in the NBA. It is hard to compare Bogut.Jimmer
is less risky than Kemba, Burke or Leonard.
I wish Jimmer well. He was fun to watch and I think he will be successful at
the next level. I am excited to see how he does. Go Utes.
Didn't Jimmer compete against these same NBA players at the USA tryouts in Las
Vegas? Rose, Durant, Curry! If I remember right, these same players had nothing
but positive things to say about Jimmer. If anything, Jimmer showed that He
could play, and compete at the NBA level. The Ute Fans are just
jealous! Their program has never produced any players worth time, money, or
praise. The only one I can think of is Steve Smith, and everyone knows He is
subhuman! I mean, what kind of player beats up his own teammate?....A Ute!
Jimmer was NOT better than Ainge (it took two BYU players to break his records),
Andre Miller had a great, great run in the tourney, Tom Chambers was a better
pro than Miller, Miller's team, despite making it to the finals, wouldn't have
beaten Ainge's team or Chamber's. Miller and Jimmer both played in the years
when the NBA draft severely waters down the talent. Ainge was better than
Miller. No non-Ute-homer would spend 30 seconds debating that - college or pro.
(All-Star and started on NBA champs and finals teams for three franchises.)
Pretty intense analysis of his athletic tools in the article. The combine will
give a subjective imprint of his upside. Jimmers's heart,moxy, shooting range
and ability to take it to the hole is off the charts. Unaminous national player
of the year and by leaps and bounds the most talked about college player in
"jimer is not the best player ever to play in utah...that honor goes to
Andre Miller."The hardware does all the talking. Jimmer's accolades trumps Andre's accolades, hands down no comparison...What's next on your argument list?
Amazed at his ability to post up and play defense . . . NOT!
I am not a BYU or Utah fan but Jimmer Fredette was much more exciting to watch
than Andre Miller or Danny Ainge. I found it interesting that Jimmer started
training at age 5.
Go JImmer. You've made the skeptics look silly so often that it comes naturally.
From Ann Arbor to SLC they will have crow feathers stuck in their teeth for
@kamuteThat's your comeback? Seriously?
If the Jazz have the chance to bring in Jimmer, I say do it! The
facts are the facts and the numbers do not lie!Jimmer lead the
nation in scoring, always putting up huge numbers, while being double teamed
100% of the time.Jimmers game reminds me of a cross between D-Will
and John Stockton, but Jimmer strokes it better, and that is saying something.
Give the kid the rock, he will find the bucket or the open man down low. Where ever Jimmer ends up, I think he will be an All-Star. I wish him
the best, but I personally hope that he ends up being a Jazz-man!
I'm a big Jimmer fan and hope he makes it in the NBA.But.....This article raves about his athleticism. It's difficult to believe a
6' 2" guy that can't dunk is very athletic. sorry....
Same ole debate. If you want the player with all the individual awards? go with
Jimmer. If you want the quintessential team player, go with Miller. To
compare Jimmer to D Will is laughable. I know its a bias/hate thing, but DWill
is heads and shoulders above Jimmer in every comparison except shooting
contested 35' 3s. DWill is still one of the top 3 PG in the NBA. I know you like
the Jimmer, but lets hope he makes a team first before we start saying he is all
@KamuteComparing Jimmer to Derek Rose is like comparing any other
draft prospect to LeBron or Kobe. Name one draft prospect that Derek Rose,
Lebron, Dwight Howard, or Durrant would not "run circles around" and
"make look silly".I believe that MVP Derek Rose would run
circles around pre-draft Derek Rose.The reality is that Jimmer led
the nation in scoring and was consensus NCAA MVP and MWC MVP. Just like any
other draft prospect, he has a ton of potential but it will take a few years to
see how good he really is, or can be. Perhaps Jimmer:Rose = Bogut:Howard. Or
perhaps he'll be much better.
Andre Miller vs Jimmer?????? No contest, Jimmer would be a better person for
Hey Kamute,"Jimmer shot under 40% in college 3 pt range. That
is a normal jump shot in the NBA. "Under 40% if you count all 4
years. Over 40% his last 3. A 21 ft (20 ft 9 in) is not a
"Normal" Jump shot in the NBA. That is a deep shot. Right in front of
the 3 pt line. (22-23ft). How many 21 ft jump shots do you see in an NBA game?
Also, how many did Jimmer shoot right up against the line? Honestly, I watched
every game and only remember a couple. Most were at least 24-25 ft, some closer
to 28 or 29 feet. He shot over 300 last year, which is 100 more than any other
player. Most were with a double team or triple team. Teams picked him up at half
court. I know there are straight up blue Kool-Aid drinkers that
predict Jimmer will surpass Kobe, MJ and Wilt, but come on...Kamute, Chris B and
Hedgie have either never put on a jock, have no clue at all about basketball or
just post out of pure hate for everything BYU.
Stats lie, eyeballs don't (those without rose-colored glasses).Jimmer will make fools of every team that passes up on him in this draft.
They'll learn to regret it.The team that drafts him, if they're
smart enough to make him their PG (even if he backs the current one up til he
gets accustomed to NBA speed), will have a superstar to build around.Superstar = unstoppable.All-star = great player.Then there's
all the rest.How many in this year's draft will be all-stars?
Probably a half dozen, at most.How many have the potential to be
superstars? Only one: The Jimmer.You draft to make your team better.
ANY team would draft a superstar with their first pick, IF they understood which
player might be one.This year's draft is pretty thin on talent. That
should help someone see the light about Jimmer.Hopefully, it's the
Jazz, as I'm a Jazz fan and that team currently doesn't have a superstar.Remember, a superstar is UNSTOPPABLE. Only Jimmer fits that bill in this
can the jimer dunk a basketball?
Come on Jazz....Draft the Jimmer. I hope Jimmer will last long enough in the
draft till the Jazz's pick.With a couple years of NBA experience
under his belt, I believe Jimmer will be as good as DWill. Those two can score
the basketball just as good as anyone.
I made the comparison to DWill. 1. DWill is not that good of
defender.2. DWill is a good shooter but Jimmer is better. 3. DWill
is an inch taller and 10 lbs heavier. Jimmer will gain 10 pounds.4.
DWill's ability to dish and attack the rim is superior but Jimmer will improve
in those areas. Jimmer does appear to have some of Stockton's talent for
navigating crowds and tall trees. 5. Both have killer cross overs. Jimmer
may be slightly better. 6. Both are extremely intelligent, know how to
attack a defense and run an offense. DWill has a lot more experience. Give
Jimmer 3 years.Jimmer's biggest weakness is his lateral movement.
DWill is superior but often got burned by Rose, Lawson and other small quick
guards (not CP3). Jimmer has a very quick first step. That helps on offense but
can translate to defense. Jimmer has the potential be be a very good
NBA point guard. His development is crucial but he has the foundational tools to
be very good at it.The Jazz need outside shooting so badly, I do not
think they will go wrong with drafting Jimmer.
Want to see the future for Jimmer? Look at JJ Barea on the Mavs. He is a Laker
killer. I believe the future is bright for Jimmer. I am hoping the Mavs pick
Hedge, Does it even matter if Jimmer can dunk the ball or not? How
many times have you seen John Stockton dunk? John Stockton is arguably the best
PG EVER in the NBA.
Definately full of ATHLETICISM! This article needs to be shoved in the face of
those clowns that think ATHLETICISM is code for "black" All the yob
announcers that use the term on ESPN, CBS etc and the those fools that drink it
in need to wake Jimmer is one of the most ATHLETIC players in the game and time
will prove it to those so-called mindless NBA and College announcers!
'Does it even matter if Jimmer can dunk the ball or not?'JDL,I'm taking that as a NO.
Jimmer will be a good to great pro. I wonder how many guys in the draft could
play for a full season with 2-3 guys on him and still average nearly 30 points.
These same guys will be the guys in the NBA that will be trying to guard him. I
heard a scout describe Jimmer this way: "He's very strong. Very quick. Good
vertical. Hair trigger shot."He was exceptional in college and
I think he'll be exceptional in the pros.Best guard I've seen since
Hedgie, Huggyface, et al:Of course Jimmer can dunk! This article
wasn't questioning his ability to dunk, it was pointing out that his strengths
lie elsewhere. Don't believe me? Google it! Enter 'Jimmer Fredette Dunk' and
you'll have several to choose from.
Hedgie.....Jimmer doesn't need to dunk! When you can score 47 points
on your supposed rival, and 3 of them from half court?......Well, Why would one
need dunking skills? Obviously you have never played!
RE: AbeilleI did your search and came up with one dunk vs UTEP and
he could barely throw it down. I continued searching and searching (even
through the missed dunk attempts) and had to go way back to the Glens falls gym
when he dunked in high school. Sorry, one dunk in his entire college career is
not proof that he is "a dunker." This is why some of us doubt he is
as "athletic" as his coaches and trainers say he is. This
article goes on and on about how athletic Jimmer is. In today's NBA a major
element in defining an "athletic" NBA prospect is that they can dunk.
Even 5'8" Nate Robinson and 5' 11" Ty Lawson are dunking on people.We'll see how he stacks up to the other prospects later this week.
Hedgie.... always getting a rise out of BYU fans. OK..I will take the bait.Dunk? That is the best you can do? I guess after being wrong on BYU
basketball 30+ times in your predictions.How many times did you see
Isiah dunk? Stockton? Bird? How bout 2 time NBA-MVP Steve Nash? I see him fly
down the lane and throw it down all the time. LOLI LOVE the defense
argument. Like anyone plays Defense in the NBA. I go to too many NBA games as it
is and the only time I saw D-Will work on the defensive end was when he is going
against Chris Paul. Jimmer more than held his own in Vegas last summer. Funny
how the other NBA players that went against him were impressed, Curry, Billups,
Rose and others. None of them question Jimmer, but Hedgehog and Chris B (Same
person) said he will not make it so "Mark it down"
huggyface - Who ever said he is a 'dunker'? Let me remind you of
what your past post said:"This article raves about his
athleticism. It's difficult to believe a 6'2" guy that can't dunk is very
athletic. Sorry..."Did the link I mentioned in my post show
Jimmer dunking? By your own admission, it does. Therefore, he CAN dunk. You
mention it only showed the UTEP dunk. There were others - including the game vs
Colorado State. Now you want to go from Jimmer "...can't dunk..." to
deciding whether he did it well enough to satisfy you? Oh brother! And by the
way, guys that are 6'2" that can dunk are very athletic! Not many can. My
vertical was 38" before I could dunk. That's what makes Nate Robinson and
Ty Lawson's abilities so unique - their verticals were out of this world! They
are both terrific players. But neither were drafted for their great dunking
abilities.As to rating potential all-star guards, we can all be
thankful you weren't rating John Stockton's abilities.
I'm not one to post something to an article unless I am able to substantiate it
through deductive reasoning or from a named or unnamed source. That being said,
I read some information about Jimmer that I thought others might want to
know.As we all know, not long ago he was asked to withdraw from BYU
campus classes due to the distractions he was unintentionally creating. Not
much after that, a writer speculates, he went missing. For a period of several
weeks he was "incomunicado." Then, as the speculation continues,
after the Pakistani raid he suddenly "re-appears." I know he is very
atheltic as this article brings to light, but, due to his quick reflexes,
unrivaled brains, and unmatched strength was he recruited for a national
security issue?I think Jimmer will make a fine NBA player. It's not
unrealistic for expectations to be set at Ainge-like career levels (or better).
Can Jimmer dunk? With a vert of 36 inches and a height of 6' 2" and an
arm length of 15-18 inches plus hand length above his head the answer is YES. Does he need to? Well most of the time NO.
I think Jimmer is a reasonable risk. However if the Jazz draft Knight I will not
be upset. He also is a reasonable risk as a PG. I like Jimmer a lot more than
Burkes, Leonard or even Kemba. Thompson also has major risks. There is not much
to choose from in guards. At least we know that Jimmer can shoot and
over longer taller guys and over double/triple teams. He can spot up or shoot on
the move. He will create shots for himself and others.
I'd love to see the Jazz pick up Jimmer with the 12th pick. He needs to learn to
play the game without dominating the ball. His basketball IQ is good enough that
he will likely do that. He will also shoot better when he plays about 15-20
minutes a night instead of 40 mins. His defense will always be suspect, not
because he can't play defense - but because he basically refuses to play
defense. Jackson was such a solid defensive player that he covered for Jimmer's
lack of effort there. However, it isn't like the NBA is full of defensive
stoppers. It is an offensive league (until the playoffs). I like
Jimmer coming off the bench for a few years as a "microwave" type
player like Vinner Johnson. Instant offense. But then developing his game to the
point where he can run an offense (Rose/Rice didn't run much offense other than
hand Jimmer the ball and set him a series of staggered ball screens his jr/sr
years). When he does that he will be a solid investment for whoever picks
him.Jazz should pull the trigger at 12 - not 6/7.
Abeille:There was never a question about his B-Ball skills. He is
awesome and I'm as big of a Jimmer fan there is. He was NPOY for good reason.
No, he doesn't need to dunk to be a star in the NBA. Three pointers are better
than 2's anyway.The theme of this article touted his athleticism so
much I wondered why Jimmer wasn't dunking like Jackson did all year. The
article leads us to believe his athleticism is off the charts.Being
able to dunk (with some flavor and authority)- like Jackson and other
"athletic" NBA prospects - is a sign of athleticism - the point of the
hedgehog | 12:39 p.m. May 15, 2011 Ann Arbor, MI I just hope and
pray the Jazz don't feel pressured into taking this one dimensional player. If
the do infact take the jimer the Jazz will forever be a bottom feeder team...I guess we're just gonna have to take your word for it that you're the
expert about bottom feeding basketball teams huh?
With the 6th pick on this year's NBA Draft the Utah Jazz picks Jimmer Fredette
from BYU...(there would be mixed emotions from the Utah crowd)...everyone has
always...undervalued a player...i mean come on...who knows...he could be a hall
of famer...heck...Utah Jazz fans that witnessed the draft of John
Stockton...Booed a future hall of famer...what im trying to say...if he does
good at the combine..and if we do draft him with the 6th pick...it would be
because of potential...let's just enjoy the show....and keep rooting for the
huggyface you stated he cannot dunk which on the face is idiotic. Do not try to
put your imbecilic comment into context. The verticle on the 40 foot hanging
jump shot against Utah shows much more athleticism than any dunk ever could.
Anyone who knows basketball can see Fredette is an amazing athlete. Get a clue.
Jimmer will either be ROY in the NBA next year or no worse than 2nd runner up...
And I can't wait to watch him.... I'm a Mavs fan and a 20 year season ticket
holder and I would love it if we got him here in Dallas.
Jimmer could exceed Magic Johnson as the greatest player ever.
I went to draft express and viewed the video of strengths/weaknesses of both
Jimmer and Knight. These are 2 different styles of PG. Knights
strengths are attacking the basket and potential for defense. He is smooth and
quick. He has range but his game is more predominantly inside. His shot
selection should be better. He lacks experience running a team. But he should
develop into a very good PG with experience.It is harder to get a
feel for Jimmer. His strength is his outside shooting. He can pass and
orchestrate a team, but BYU's offense is very unorthodox. His mid range game is
pretty good. He is not strong at attacking the basket or finishing at the rim.
His weakness on defense looked down right bad since it was highlighted as a
weakness.Jimmer is better on D than the film suggests. The big problem is his outside PG style. Knight is an attacking style (that
can add outside range) similar to Harris. Jimmer would change the
Jazz offense. He would open it up. The inside attack would primarily come from
other players.This may be good? Jimmer would compliment Hayward or a
slasher at SG.
RE: "Derrick Rose will make Jimmer looks silly...."DERRRR!! Derrick Rose makes *everyone* look silly. There's a reason he's the
This Ute fan is all about the Jimmer. He is going to be great! With his range,
and ability to get open, he is going to succeed.