@CJ Mileslol...i think you got stumped again...asking questions that
you should know the answer would make you foolish...CJ was drafted number
34...guys who went after him that are still playing...Ersan Ilyasova, Ronny
Turiaf, Monta Ellis(if you are so proud of your CJ we could have had
Monta...Monta is a player that exceeds expectations NOT CJ...), Louis Williams
(i'd rather have him than CJ), Andray Blatche (again better than CJ), Ryan
Gomes, Amir Johnson, Marcin Gortat...wow if you'd look at it...CJ is the one
underperforming....lol...Gortat averaged almost a 20-10 at the end of the
year...due to nash...Ersan Ilyasova has consistency issues like CJ...but is more
of a hustle player...I left Von Wafer out because he'd probably be gone...you
dont wanna look at stats right now CJ...coz by the looks of things CJ would get
buried...lol...but i have to admit CJ has the athleticism...but...he cant seem
to apply it on the court...there are guys who has it...and there are guys who
I like CJ, I think he improved last season and I expect him to learn from last
year and get better and take his game to a higher level this coming season. Hopefully the Jazz bring CJ back, when CJ slashes to the rim good things
@CJ MilesWhere have you been all season?...you do know Hayward got
limited play time...as well with Favors...they werent given the playing time
like Landry Fields got at NY....plus....the Jazz should have went with
Monta...rather than the clunker CJ...
@Captain LOoops, my bad..
Man, I'm glad we didn't draft Epke.
Milsap wasn't drafted the same yr as CJ. CJMiles was talking about players
drafted that same yr.
@Dr TruthAdd Ginobili to that list. He was drafted 50th.Milsap- 47th
CJ was the 34th pick of the draft. Players still in the league who were drafted
after CJ.....Ersan Illyasova, Ronny Turiaf, Von Wafer, Monta Ellis, Lou
Williams, Andray Blatche, Ryan Gomes, Amir Johnson, and Marcin Gortat! CJ work
on your shot and shot selection. Clearly there are a few on that list that the
Jazz should have drafted over CJ.
Captain...I don't like CJ that much!!!
CJMiles: As such a CJ advocate, I'm surprised you don't know when CJ was
drafted, I think CJ was the 4th pick in that years 2nd round of the draft.
Where was CJ drafted? like number 50 that year. I wonder how many of those
drafted above him are still in the league, let alone playing. Now there is a
player who exceeded expectations.Bugoff, answer that one for me.
You like stats.
I wonder if CJ will ever get it? I hope he does, I love his talent but not his
work ethic, so far this off season he hasn't done much but recover, I hope he
gets after it, he needs to find new/different people to workout with in the
offseason.I hope Favors, Hayward and Evan are working hard, it would be
fun/interesting to hear how they are doing. KOC said they were going to work
them hard until July 1st , lockout start, I hope they are.Wish the NBA
could work things out and avoid this possible lockout.
@ CJ... Where you get drafted now days is all about potential. It doesn't
necessarily translate into how you will do the next year in the NBA. If that
were the case, a lot of seniors (more NBA ready) would be picked higher than
these young kids who clearly are a couple of years away from reaching their
potential. Kudos to Hayward, Favors and Evans, who are young and improving
because they have a strong work ethic. Here is hoping CJ gets that when it comes
to his shooting form/balance, otherwise, it will be bye, bye.....
Hayward & Favors will be fine, both started out slow in bad situations and
then showed improvement once stabilized, which is all you can ask from a
rookie.Next step is to see how hard they worked in their first
off-season and how they react now that teams have scouting reports on them.Favors' upside is far higher (Amare who plays defense), but Hayward
should be a fine swingman, assuming his strength builds up, his free throws
improve, and his three pointers stay solid.Stuff like All-Rookie
team is meaningless; Griffen, Wall, Monroe & Cousins' teams all did worse
than the Jazz.The interesting comparisons in five years will be
Favors with Monroe & Cuzz, and Hayward with Paul George.
I personally wouldn't want to coach Cousins even though he has the potential to
be one of the better centers in the league. Hayward and Favors are already in
full off-season workout mode! Two more with the work ethic like them is all we
want as Jazz fans out of this years draft.....right? I'd love to see that 12th
pick go top 3!!
Interesting...Both Favors and Hayward were top 10 picks but neither lived up to
their draft positions. Favors should have been first team and Hayward second
team based on how they were drafted. Both played below their expectations
coming into the league. Goes to show that it doesn't matter where you are
drafted, but how you play the game.Oh and this a season award not a
"Hayward" had a few good games award.
I would put my money on that second team all day long!Too bad Air
Gordon didn't make the team, he really came on big at the end of the season, too
big yo! lol
Congrats. All the Jazz need to do now is Get the Mailman to Coach the Bigs.
Re Louisiana Jazz man:Talent wise I think you're right, but Cousins might
just be the most spoiled, infantile player the NBA has ever seen. Because his
personality is so corrosive, I don't think he will ever be a major contributor
on a playoff team. I would take both Favors and Hayward over Cousins
in a redraft.
What awards they qualified for isn't important to me, it's how they finished the
season, they were playing pretty good, especially Gordon, and Favors was showing
improvement too. They both just need to work hard in the off season and come
back determined to start and be big contributors. I hope the coaches are working
them hard until July 1st, like KOC said they would be doing.
I would say that Favors is top 2-3 in last years draft...Hayward is certainly
top 10 maybe 6-8.
Hayward got D-Will and Sloanized otherwise he would have made at least a 2nd
teamer. As for Favors he just needs playing time like Evans and will be a huge
contributor for us for many years. Just do whatever you need to do next week as
far as luck O'Connor, and lets move up in the draft! Good luck to all.
demarcus cousins by far the best of the draft
Favors is one of the top 2-3 picks in last years draft. He could end up being
an all-star calibre player in the NBA.We are extremely lucky to have
him...& he appears to be a great kid. You do not get a good big like that
i think out of the rookies this season...Favors and Hayward would be one of the
top players that came from their draft year...the coaching staff should give
them their trust and start them....they would develop faster...and they would
easily improve their already good chemistry...i hope we get two steals from this
I remember how badly I wanted the Jazz to get Greg Monroe and they tried to
trade up for him or another power forward. I am SO happy that we got Derrick
Favors and he's turned out to be our future power forward for the next 5 to 6
years. Paul George had more votes than Gordan Hayward but George didn't shoot
very efficiently as a 3 point shooter and I'm glad we got Haward as well even
though he didn't make the second team. I really am excited about the draft that
will allow us to get deaper, perhaps we'll wind up getting two more of the best
lottery picks of the draft. This is so much better than having to take a
project like Kosta Koufos or DeShawn Stevenson. Drafting in the top 13 gives
you players that have a higher athletic learning curve.
Hayward had the better year, but kudos to Favors! I'm excited to see his
I think the balloting made some sense, since Hayward didn't play that much
through most of the season, and when he did, except for the final stretch, he
played a lot against other team's second string. The thing to me that was
fantastic was Hayward's 3-pt shot percentage ending up so high by the end of the
year, and his admitting to the press at the end that he was confident that he
belonged in the league. Coach should definitely start him next year. I think
Favors should start too. I'm hoping that Jefferson or Milsap is traded (though I
hate saying that about Milsap, who has been a hard-working force for the Jazz)
and Fes signed but there are so many variables, including who the Jazz draft and
which veterans are wooed by other teams.
I'm looking forward to what Favors and Hayward will do next year, they both have
great up side and should make immediate contributions. IMO both Favors and
Hayward should start the season as starters, it probably won't happen but to me
it should. Milsap needs to work on his skills to play alot more minutes at the
3, so Favors can start and get major minutes as the starting 4.I'd like to
see the Jazz be able to trade Bell, but that probably won't happen, Hayward
needs to start at the 2.
i would have thought Hayward would get a nod...but because he was benched most
of the season...i guess that's why...i think coaches should trust rookies a bit
more...i mean...you drafted them...why not use them...if Hayward and Evans had a
steady 15-20 min playing time i think Hayward would be a lock in...and Evans
would have a shot
This is terrific news! It's the beginning of a beautiful win-ship! Get it? The
Jazz are on the up and up!
This is great for both Favors and Hayward. I think Favors actually had a better
season than most people expected, he was supposed to be a long term project with
enormous potential, but he showed towards the end of the season that he's a
productive player right now. Over the last 5 games he averaged 11.4 points 6.8
rebounds and 1.6 blocks in 27 minutes.Hayward probably had the best
finish to the season for any rookie not named Griffen or Wall, but since this a
cumulative award I can see why he didn't make the 2nd team.If the
all rookie team was for the rookies who were playing the best basketball at the
end of the season, both Jazz rookies would have been in the top 10.The only thing I disagree with the coaches over is putting Neal over Monroe
for the last spot on the first team.I think this is the best class
of rookies the NBA has seen since the 2003 class.
People obviously didn't see the Lakers game.