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Published: Saturday, May 7 2011 10:42 p.m. MDT

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Bugoff
Houston, TX

Most of the national commentators are ranting about the meltdown of the Lakers. Gasol is not tired. He is getting beat and moved out of his favorite spots and patterns. Someone needs to give Dallas credit for beating LA.

LA played weak for the last couple of months. They are old but the right teams can match up inside and can also bomb them from the outside.

Utah NEVER had sufficient outside shooting to beat them outside so they dumbly pounded the ball inside against packed paint with bad results. The Utah coaching/front office were the primary reason for Utah doing so poorly against the Lakers for years. Like Jackson said "Utah/Sloan was predictable", "you knew exactly what they were going to do...even the timing of the substitutions".

DAL is designed to beat the Lakers both inside and out. It takes that kind of versatility. Maybe KOC will take notice and create a team that can compete.

The Sloan system is worthless without enough outside shooting to offset the height advantage. Super fast guards also can penetrate and go right at them.

Utah refused to get the players and refused to use a winning game plan.

Doctor J
Manti, UT

Phil Jackson always had way more Talent than anyone else. He is a decent coach...but he was extremely LUCKY to have Michael, Scotty, Kukoc, Shaq, Kolby, Gasol, Odom, Fischer and a bunch of excellent perimeter shooters. Whithout those players Jackson is just another decent coach.

I hope I never have to see Phil Jackson again after today. This man is full of himself.

What is up with the little two finger whistle thing? I never want to see that again.

Jackson also sits in a HIGH CHAIR.

ed
Los Olivos, CA

You only whistle like that at your dog.

The Great Houdini
Rye, CO

funny how colbee is once again blaiming his teammates,"they" aren`t playing smart,"they" aren`t rotating,"they" aren`t rebounding,always someone else`s fault,never colby`s

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

I fully expect Corbin to not be as predicable as Sloan was. I'm high on the Jazz' future.

The ranting Jackson was doing on Gasol late in the last game is an indication that he knew his team was in trouble. He's been around long enough to see the writing on the wall. So, he picked the one player on his team that was underperforming the most and jumped on him, hoping the team itself would respond. It didn't.

"The moving hand, having writ, moves on."

Yup, Jackson, the writing IS on the wall.

Even if the Lakers pull off a victory in Dallas today, they won't win the series. Dallas just has their number this time.

BlameItOnTheOfficials
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I always celebrate with the Lakers lose. And seeing them fall out of this round will be something worth celebrating. Hating the Lakers is as much about hating Laker Fans as it is about the Lakers themselves. Boastful, arrogant blowhards!

GO DALLAS!

rattler
Syracuse, UT

They're all dead now. And good riddance Phil Jackson.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

The Lakers are mostly cremated. Note: the MAVs bombed the Fakers from the outside. That is how you beat the Lakers.

KOC go gets some outside shooting and stop pretending your inside only approach ever had a chance of working. Sloan and his anti 3 point shooting bias is gone.

josemb
navotas, philippines

the lakers is as great organization--they know how to build a championship team. phil jackson is a very good coach and he knows how to win championships. 11 rings for the guy. give him and the lakers credit. they wanted--and know how--to win title. but this year, they got beaten by a very good dallas team. credit goes to dallas. they play to win against the lakers. and i hope they win a title. i'm a jazz fanatic and i am happy for the mavs. i hope so called jazz fans stop blaming sloan for the jazz's failure to win a title. his system had given the jazz consistent playoff teams. and during the jazz's finals seasons, the jazz tried to add two quality big men to the roster which could have helped the jazz win the title. but they refused to play for the jazz. brian williams chose to play for the bulls. ronnie seikaly chose to play for the nets and into oblivion. two bigs that could've pushed the jazz over the hump against the bulls. alas, they don't want to play in utah

Kakashi
Tokyo, Japan

May 1: Bin Laden killed. May 8: Lakers swept, Phil Jackson retires. Things just keep getting better and better....

How do you spell Los Angeles Lakers???....S-W-E-E-P

Jesse
Tooele, UT

I've got to disagree with Bugoff a little bit. I know the Mavs killed them from the outside but it was much more than that. First off, Chandler & Haywood helped negate the size factor by playing solid D. Most of all though, the Lakers lack of team speed killed them. They had no answer for the pick and roll, which led to all of the open 3's. The Mavs were very smart about it, Dirk set the pick so they had to respect him, then the PG broke down the defense, creating open 3's or layups all series long.

So KOC should note that the Mavs acquired the size for defense, Haywood last year and Chandler in the off season and then surrounded their play makers with shooters like Peja.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

@josemb Analyze Sloan and the Jazz for years. Their strength was also their weakness. Sloan's system was built on going inside. If you stopped the one dimensional inside game you easily beat Utah.

Sloan made it worse by insisting on to little outside shooting capability. That allowed Bryant to leave the non shooting SG wide open and block passing lanes. Utah SFs were below average 3 point shooters. Artest could also sag back. The LA height and packing killed the too short/slow Jazz front court's offense inside.

The Jazz inside/outside defense was average at best.

Stiffled offense and inside/outside vulnerable D is a recipe for disaster.

The Jazz did not have fast guards to go right at LA. They lacked 3 point shooting to bomb them. They could not out rebound them.

The team was designed to lose to LA. Sloan and the front office knew it. They did NOTHING to fix it.

The Jazz were designed to make the playoffs. The Jazz system was designed to make the playoffs but nothing more. The front office was happy making the playoffs. The fans were suckered.

Other Western Conf teams followed LAs game plan.

Bugoff
Houston, TX

The Laker problems are similar to the Jazz. Poor perimeter D, erratic outside shooting and weak bench.

Johnson wants to trade Gasol or Bynum. I hope so. Bryant could not win with Bynum alone before Gasol. The Lakers also struggle without Bynum.

Not to help the Lakers but they need to replace Fisher with a PG who can who can stay in front of fast PGs and shoot. They need to get a bench.

I agree with Jesse. I focused on the 3s as that was most obvious in game 4 but Cuban finally got the right pieces in place. He did get size inside and they knocked Gasol off of his spots. Bynum played pretty well but you can't count on him being healthy in the long run.

At this point the Jazz have to worry about beating DAL, OKC and MEM next year. The Lakers may be good IF they make the right moves but the 3 above teams have athletes, size and shooting. SA may also make the right adjustments.

The West is shifting but is no easier.

ed
Los Olivos, CA

I don't like a few of the Lakers players or their celeb fans. But they will find a way to rebuild. They can recruit the talent because of Hollywood.

Jesse
Tooele, UT

The Lakers are going to have a hard time getting back on top of the west. Look at their Salaries:
Kobe: 3yrs left, 25-30 mil a year
Pau: 3yrs left, 19 mil a year
Bynum: 2yrs left (team opt 2nd year), 15-16 mil a year
Odom: 2yrs left (team opt 2nd year), 8.9 & 8.2 mil a year
Artest: 1yr left, 6.8 mil (has player option for 2012-13)
Walton: 2yrs left, 5.7 & 6.1 mil a year
Blake: 3yrs left, 4 mil a year
Fisher: 1yr left, 3.4 mil (has player option for 2012-13)

That's about 88 mil guaranteed for next year, when the cap was $58 mil this year, so they won't have a ton of flexibility. They could package Bynum and Odom for someone like Howard but they'll still be incomplete as a team. It will be interesting for sure.

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