Isn't Heaps a bit young to be getting married?Just sayin...
Jake is poised for a breakout year in 2011-12.30 years ago, it was
Jim McMahon's amazing, record setting junion season leading BYU to their first
bowl in the Miracle Bowl, followed a few months later by John Wooden Award
winner Danny Ainge and his memorable drive against Notre Dame.Maybe
this year it will the John Wooden Award winner preceding another amazing season
for the next in a long line of great BYU quarterbacks.Can't wait
Great article! We're looking forward to an standout season for BYU's
quarterback, Jake Heaps & Company.Go Cougars!
Dick - Get a clue. Mitch Light is in the business of selling
magazines, not projecting the success of any player or team.His
sales fluff about the Cougars and Heaps (who he and his staff didn't even know
well enough to spell his name correctly) is about getting gullible Cougar fans
to drop some coin on his magazine, nothing more... nothing less.
What no Jordan Wynn ?But Utah has the Pac 12 logo.! Not to worry
Utah Jordan Wynn will make a cover, the only problem for Utah is it will be
Jordan Pendelton stuffing his face two feet under the Football field again. They better print a lot of those Magazines Jimmers sold out fast and so
will Jake Heaps, it is a long hot summer and I need something to read.
Enter Hedgehog. Hedgehog:"Nobody cares about BYU (except for me
and my stalkerish posts on every BYU article ever published). BYU is irrelevant
(except for Heaps being on the cover of magazines, Jimmer winning NPOTY, USC
tranfers to BYU and a ton of BCS teams currently scheduling BYU for games).
Everyone knows that since the beginning of college football, in 2004, no team
has accomplished as much as the U of U (please oh please I hope no one realizes
college ball was played before 2004). To all Cougar fans out there, abandon
hope, there is nothing to live for (Time to go feed my cats and trim my goatee).
Utah has PAC 12 money now (a direct reflection on my personal success). Take
that TDS! (Haha! Now those coug fans will be sad like me).
@TwinsGuy:What are you insinuating with that question?
Why is BYU getting all the recognition when the Utes have more money and
"when things get tough, it is time to quit" Urban Meyer still pulling
Heaps and BYU are heading for some good times!
RE: Howard S."Mitch Light is in the business of selling
magazines, not projecting the success of any player or team."Great point, although I am surprised to read it, coming from a troll. I agree
that using BYU players to sell magazines is a good idea, especially as of late.
We've probably seen more players from BYU grace national magazine covers this
year (Jimmer's several plus this new one with Heaps) than all the players from
the all other state schools have in their combined history. It's good to be a
Just so we're all on he same page. Magazines like College Football us Geo-
coding to determine what the cover will be. What you see at the Provo ice cream
parlor is not what you'd see across the Nation. Infact what you see in South
East Michigan is Kirk Cousins of Michigan State.
It's a new dawn over the horizon for BYU Football. It's going to be a great
year and a great begining to a new era. Good luck to Heaps, Reynolds and the
rest of the team as well as Bronco and Doman. Here's to bringing back the
prolific passing game that has always been BYU's staple offense. Put the ball
in the hands of those new and great returning receivers whom Robert Anae just
didn't have what it takes to properly utilize. It's time to see the Razzle
Dazzle once again.
It appears that the BYU Dude and misterlilly are looking to be offended. I
don't see any "Utah trolls" writing anything horrible on this post.
Heaps is a good qb. Be proud he is on the cover. He got put on with two of the
best qb's in the nation. He is not in their class right now but could put up
some big numbers this year. He should throw for 300 plus yards per game for the
home games and will receive some exposure on the road games. Hope he does well
(except in one certain game).
This is awesome............can't wait for the cake walk playing the WAC!
I'm a Utah fan and depressed about having Wynn as our QB. I would like to feel
better about him but I don't. I think he is the biggest mistake that Whit
has made to this point. To small, fragile, runs when pressure is coming. I
cannot understand why you would recruit someone who weighted 155 Lbs in high
school to play D1 football. I hope I am wrong.
And think, BYU gets a four(4) page spread in the PAC10 edition of Athlon.
@howieWell if this is purely a ploy to get Cougar fans to buy their
magazine they must feel that there are alot of Cougar fans. All that stuff about
millions of Mormons and a national, if not international, fanbase you constantly
deny you have just acknowledged. LOL
@Howard S; h-hog; etal:This deal really gets under your skin,
Ha ha, comparing Heaps to Andrew Luck is like comparing Ryan Leaf to Joe
Montana.Heaps has other things to worry about. He won't have a
breakout year. Mark it down.
Very well put mistertilly. Somehow you were able to read the BYU article before
Hedgehog. I thought he had email alerts as soon as the article was published.
@byu Dude@mistertillyI commend you for not hiding your
insecurity...nary a Ute post and you are in full "get out in front of it
mode." BTW Eddie Wide was on the "Regional" cover last year and I
don't recall any articles about it. That is called perspective.
Well said Misterilly. I'm sure that Hedgie, Chrissy B and Howard S will begin
their rants...Oh, I guess Howie already did comment...must have been that it
didn't amount to being worth reading, other than this writer from Athlon Sports
recognizes a diamond in the rough in Mr. Heaps. Howie, if Jake is not worthy of
your respect because he put your hated rivals poster boy on the cover and not
your "dear-in-the-headlights" Jordan Wynn must tell you something. Perhaps Jordan Wynn and Utah are not worth spending any time covering?
Perhaps he can see which programs are headed up and which are not news worthy?
Hum? Maybe that'll be the trend in the coming years ahead. Utah's insignificance
from the basement of the PAC12, depending on, and hanging from the shirtails of
USC, Oregon and Stanford for any sort of relavence while BYU is out blazing its'
own trail to success and notoriety ON THEIR OWN, as an independent...great
choice of words isn't it...INDEPENDENT, something that Utah, and its' fans can't
spell. Enjoy your $21 Million per year, cuse Utah hasn't earned nothing yet!
It's all good except for Kragthorpe writing the article. I can't remember that
last time he "colored" the Y in a good light.
Howie - So what you're saying is that Athlon thought they could sell more
magazines by putting BYU on the cover than any other university in the country?
That's awesome - I know BYU has a huge national following but I didn't realize
that they're even bigger than schools like say, Notre Dame, Texas, Alabama,
Florida and USC. That's really high praise for the Cougars. Thanks Howie!
Howard-Get a clue.EVERY sports magazine is in the business of
@ Internntional Cougar Fan:Both are garnering recognition. Neither side is
getting "all the recognition."
This is the first in what will be a long line of impressive "covers"
for Heaps and the Cougars over the next several years. The Cougars
will earn their improved reputation while the utes will be riding the coat tails
of the major Pac-12 teams and gaining revenue like a welfare recipient. BYU is the team to watch and I'm excited to be a CougFan!
@Howard SAs a BYU fan it's hard for me to admit that when BYU gets
on a magazine it's only because that magazine wants to sell a lot of prints. But
when the Utes grace a cover, it's because they deserve the accolades. It's hard
for me to admit this because it's simply not true. But hold
on...your logic goes against many things you've said in the past; namely, that
BYU doesn't have as big a fan base as is talked about by Coug fans. And if
you're saying this magazine's only goal is to sell issues like you claim, then
they must have chosen BYU because they have a large fan base. Wait a sec, I'm
dizzy...OH I SEE IT NOW! It's just like when Bosco, Young, Detmer,
Sarkisian, LaVell, Ainge, Jimmer, Collie, Mili and Lewis, Jimmy Mac, Unga, Hall,
Beck, Harline, Buck, Elewonibi, Staley, Neilsen and Wilson were on covers, all
for the purpose of snagging money from us notably big-spending, non frugal
Cougar fans. I feel so foolish. Those fast talkers got me again.
Duckhunter Duck - Funny that vast Cougar fan base has not been
enough get a power conference to invite the Cougars.Every conference
wants Notre Dame and their vast fan base... but not the Cougars...Guess it really isn't as relevant or vast as Cougars like to believe.
h-hog:"Just so we're all on he same page. Magazines like
College Football us Geo- coding to determine what the cover will be. What you
see at the Provo ice cream parlor is not what you'd see across the Nation.
Infact what you see in South East Michigan is Kirk Cousins of Michigan
State."h-hog, does this also hold true at the Palo Alto ice
Mountainman56 "Thanks Howie"******You're
welcome.With that vast fan base a phone call from the Big 12 can't
far off. Keep waiting... and waiting... and waiting... and... well
@UU702It's not insecurity, it's the predictability of the same few
Ute trolls who show up on every single BYU article. The article could be about
BYU buying new band uniforms or a fancy new ice cream flavor at the creamery and
we'd still see smack-talk from the same guys.
Howie - The vast fan base is not what generates an invite from the Big 12 or PAC
10 or any other conference. If that was the case, Utah and Colorado would never
have received PAC 10 invites. BYU's vast fan base is exactly what makes
independence a viable option. The only one waiting... and waiting is you -
hoping that BYU doesn't get that call because then you wouldn't be able to hang
your hat on Utah's conference affiliation as your only source of feeling that
Utah might somehow be in a better situation than BYU is.
Now that is respect! Way to go Heaps and BYU! Yes he will have a break out
season! Let it be written, let it be done!
MESOUTE,I don't think TwinsGuy was insinuating anything other than what he
asked. As a parent, the thought of one of my kids getting married at 19 or 20
is a scary one. Statistically, those who marry that young have a lot higher
chance of marital challenges. Hopefully that won't be the case here but I hope
I'm not hosting a reception for any of my kids at that age.
"h-hog, does this also hold true at the Palo Alto ice cream
parlor??"Tom in CA,I can't speak for parlors in
Palo Alto but I confident no one in the Midwest has ever heard on Heaps....
being the 105th best QB in the Nation last year will do that.Again,
College football Magazine is trying to sell magazines and as they've figure
out... there is a sucker born every minute. Truthfully, College Football knows
little to nothing about Heaps.... as proven by the fact they didn't even know
his last name.
@mistertilly"BYU doesn't have as big a fan base as is talked
about by Coug fans."*****************Regardless of what I
think about the vastness expanse of the BYU fan base, the power conferences have
spoken.They have determined that it's not that relevant and
certainly not impressive enough to warrant an invitation to the big-time of BCS
college football.Sorry Cougs... but keep that faith... That call
from the Big 12 should come anytime...
@Mountainman56"...in a better situation than BYU is."***************Utah is in a better situation than BYU. No
rational person can deny that.BYU is in the best position it can be
in... but not equal to, or better than Utah.
Hedgehog, did you not read the article:"That cover with Heaps
will make the Athlon national edition that will be distributed beginning June
2."That said, and even as a BYU fan, I think it is a little
ridiculous to put Heaps on any magazine at this point. He started showing a lot
of potential toward the end of last season, and I think he may earn his spot on
a few magazines in the future. But so far he hasn't really proven anything. I am
excited about this upcoming season. Go Heaps and go Cougars!
"The article could be about BYU buying new band uniforms or a fancy new ice
cream flavor at the creamery and we'd still see smack-talk from the same
guys."So true. Like moths to a flame they're drawn to every BYU
@ Mr. HowieI bet if it was a Utah player on the cover you would be very
happy!Can't one thing be written w/out your negative diatribe? Just
Why wasn't Jordan Winn on the cover?
To all byu fans!Just remember! One loss and your season is toast,
meaning one loss and your playing in the Armed Forces Bowl! Thats life as an
independent for you.
Wiley Old School "As a parent, the thought of one of my kids
getting married at 19 or 20 is a scary one."It all depends on
the maturity of the couple.I met my wife when she was 19. She was 20
and I 22 when we married.6 children, 5 returned missionaries, 4 BYU
graduates, and 3 grandchildren later, we're still best friends.I've
only met Jake once in person. He was attending a missionary farewell dinner for
another BYU football player. Sitting at a table by himself shortly after his
arrival at BYU last spring, he was drawing so little attention to himself I
hardly noticed him until my son pointed him out.Even then, however,
he struck me as a young man who is mature beyond his years. That maturity will
serve him well as a husband and as BYU's starting quarterback.
Bleed Crimson"Just remember! One loss and "your"
season is toast, meaning one loss and "your" playing in..."Is this what passes for English up on the hill?"your" (possessive) is not the same as "you're" (you
are)Just remember Utah fans, one loss (to BYU) and your season
bragging rights are toast!--------------hedgehog"I can't speak for parlors in Palo Alto but I confident no one in
the Midwest has ever heard on Heaps..."Just as with Jimmer,
that will change, much to your chagrin!The Jake Heaps bandwagon is
just about to leave the station. You can either hop on and enjoy the ride or you
can jog along behind like you did Jimmer's bandwagon.Either way,
your feable ankle-biting can do nothing to stop it.Athlon cover
today. Sports Illustrated cover tomorrow. It's inevitable.
Hedgie.Just so we're all on he same page. Magazines like College
Football us Geo- coding to determine what the cover will be. What you see at the
Provo ice cream parlor is not what you'd see across the Nation. Infact what you
see in South East Michigan is Kirk Cousins of Michigan StateWhat
same page, this comment like most that comes out of your mouth makes no sense. I
don't think you are even in the same book as the rest of us, let alone same
page. Nice comment again. Go back to bed.
hedgehog | 6:47 a.m. Ann Arbor, MI Just so we're all on he same
page. Magazines like College Football us Geo- coding to determine what the cover
will be. What you see at the Provo ice cream parlor is not what you'd see across
the Nation. Infact what you see in South East Michigan is Kirk Cousins of
Michigan State. =====According to Light, back in the
day, it was routine to see Cougar and Ute players on the cover when the magazine
published a regional magazine that featured the WAC and MWC in a Western
Edition.That was back then."Now we don't have that
Western cover anymore, but we still want to feature BYU because of its great fan
base and the team has been good in recent years. Heaps had a pretty good
freshman year and he's expected to be the guy and we went with him."===How about we all decide to mail a shiny quarter in
Hedgehog's name to the DesNews when he shows he can read the articles before he
posts...===This kids, is why BYU went independent.Because they could.It's called National Relevence.
Jordan Wynn wasn't on the cover because.......well because even those of us for
Utah couldn't care less. I am down in my basement in my jammies with a bottle of
Mountain Dew in front of the computer. I'm depressed and thinking of ending it
all by drinking 35 bottles of Mtn Dew in one hour. Couldn't Whit have chosen
someone with heart and guts and someone who could take a hit.10
minutes later....Only 25 bottles to go.....10 minutes later .... now
only 10 botttttllllesss to go10 minutes leater,,,,//?? I see a
bright light I'm starting to go to the light.Ammmazzzzing I see
blue.....its all blue. Someone is coming to greet meIts.... Its the
QB for BYU...... I had no idea.
Bleed Crimson"Thats life as an independent for you."As the only independent west of the Mississippi, BYU is unique and will
draw tremendous attention if the Cougars have a successful season. Whether this
is a BCS busting season, or not, BYU is still poised to have a great season.
"Howard S. | 10:29 a.m. Taylorsville, UT @Mountainman56"...in a better situation than BYU is."***************Utah is in a better situation than BYU. No rational
person can deny that.BYU is in the best position it can be in... but
not equal to, or better than Utah."=======Not if you
bring in the directions the programs are heading...If you are
speaking financially, not this year, but under the current contracts, under
those narrow terms, for the next few years, Utah is in a better situation.However... If you bring in all athletic programs (hint:basketball),
facilities, and upside potential currently, ten or twenty years from now, I
really like where BYU is positioned....and I think that is what is
really driving you Utes crazy with jealousy.===Can you imagine
what kind of TV contract Larry Scott could have picked up if he had been able to
get the PAC over the religion issue, and picked up BYU other than Colorado (or
the U for that matter)?Last year, I'm sure many BYU fans were
frustrated about the whole major-conference issue.Now, I don't know
that Holmoe would trade positions if given the option.
LonestarRunner | 11:26 a.m. May 8, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT Bleed
Crimson"Thats life as an independent for you."As the only independent west of the Mississippi, BYU is unique and will draw
tremendous attention if the Cougars have a successful season. Whether this is a
BCS busting season, or not, BYU is still poised to have a great season. ====Agree with Lonestar.Utah fans are happy they don't
have to go to Laramie anymore.When will the Ute Fanbase realize,
they just agreed to become the Laramie to the West-Coast PAC teams?===Ponder this Bleed Crimson, where will Utah and BYU be in ten
years? USC will come in and be up 40 points in the last minute of
the game, and will kick an onside kick in a half empty, windy, snowy RES. The
Fans will be booing, and Kyle will wave at the other coach and be required to
make a formal apology.And BYU fans will be bringing their kids to
Legacy Hall while the nation (sorry, the world) watches BYU in HD.The sad, pathetic life of being independent on the national stage in HD...Embarassing.
I remember the same hype about a certain "Jake" last year too. Of
course, Locker's team went 7-6 last year and his Heisman hopes with it. Oh yeah,
they got beat by a horrible team in Provo that went 7-6 as well.Must
have been an after thought considering they can't even spell his name right.I hear that Bronco is considering the (2) headed monster again :) Can't wait until Sept for the Utes to bust up all these hopes that are
building in Provo. Gonna be awesome.
re: Duckhunter | 7:36 a.m. May 8, 2011 Welcome to Statistics 101....
Not all the roughly 1.5 million 'true believers in Zion' are byu fans. Some root
for the Utes. There are pockets with a hard core cult like following
of tds fans but I'd venture there are more New York Yankee or LA Lakers fans
globally than BYU fans.
After all of the chest-beating about their PAC 12 invite and their mega-buck
television deals, the BYU-obsessed Utah fans just can't fathom the possibility
that BYU is poised to steal Utah's maiden voyage PAC 12 thunder.Jake
Heaps, rather than Jordan Wynn, on the Athlon cover is just the beginning of the
utahcountyuteIt won't be so awesome when the mighty PAC 12 Utes
stroll into LES and have to leave with their red-tailed feathers between their
legs.That, after being unceremoniously dismissed a week earlier in
the Colliseum, will end the euphoria on the hill and introduce the Utes to the
reality that being cannon fodder in a big boy conference isn't so awesome.
So, BYU's in the Pac-10 afterall! How 'bout that!Judging by all the
silly smack talk on this article from Ute fans, they must be really jealous that
BYU's QB is pictured with two Pac-12 QBs, and not the Ute's QB."This is one of the first inklings of how the national media perceive BYU
as an independent."Bye-bye the mid-major label and HELLO to
being one of the big boys.I don't think Bronco will let this team
fade into mediocrity. BYU will, no doubt, prove it deserves its new-found
national respect!September can't come soon enough.
Congrats, this is a pretty big accomplishment considering Heaps has yet to beat
a team with a winning record (yes I know, he beat San Diego State, but that win
will always be questioned by the helper in the booth.) I just don't get how
beating UTEP, a team that had lost six games in a row, who's starting QB could
barely walk, and certainly didn't deserve to be going to any bowl game creates
such prediction of future success. But congrats!
bigutefan | 12:27 p.m. May 8, 2011 Las Vegas, NV Congrats, this is a
pretty big accomplishment considering Heaps has yet to beat a team with a
winning record (yes I know, he beat San Diego State, but that win will always be
questioned by the helper in the booth.)===Classic
Ute.EVERY win BYU has is questioned and therefore negated by the
"uteology" of the Ute Nation.Ask a Ute, BYU has never won
a game.What else is new?
bigutefan, I find it funny that a Utah fan is discrediting a BYU win for a
controversial replay review. Better find some different ammo.And
since you brought up the San Diego State game, why does nobody talk about the
other replay that game that favored SDSU? I always thought the replay call that
favored BYU was a make-up call for the one earlier that was botched. Of course,
no one talks about that, because they are more interested in hating BYU then
anything else.Heaps is not the best quarterback in the nation, but
he's improving. His improvement last year wasn't based on the lack of decent
competition, but rather his improvement in decision making and accuracy. Those
don't really have anything to do with who he is playing. For the record, he
outperformed both Utah quarterbacks in their match-up last season.
bigutefanBy the same rationale, Heaps beat the Utes, so Jake does
have a win over a winning team.
Yeap its preseson BYU's time of year. Good luck to Heaps lets see if
can match the other two featured QBs in leading his team to 17+ points on the
road against an above .500 defense for the first time in his career. Maybe
against Ol' Miss but I am not sure against Texas.
I have to agree with what SOME of what the Utah faithful are saying. All the
preseason recognition is very nice, and I am very excited for the season, but
why don't we just wait and see what Heaps does in at least the first two or
three games before we get too far out of hand?That said, do Utah
fans ever look to see who the hype is coming from? Light is not a BYU season
ticket holder. Bottom line is that BYU gets a ton of recognition, especially at
qb, because of the years of success they have had on the field. Years as in 30+,
@Howard SActually BYU does have a better situation than Utah. Utah
will get tons of money, be a BCS member (for a while) and lucked into the weak
South PAC. That is a good situation for them. However, BYU needs and
wants national recognition. The PAC will not get that for them nearly as well as
independence. BYU does not need the PAC money, they need the national coverage.
They are getting it and will get more of it. Utah will surface from
time to time on the national scene but they will be like most of the PAC as far
as national recognition. Enjoy your money and the BCS while it
re: EdGrady | 10:41 a.m. May 8, 2011 Maybe, because the U knows
football is a team sport and success is not determined by 1 individual.I recall how way kitty fans though Maxie was the next big things 16 seconds
after Beck's last game. Now, Hall is an after thought and Heaps is the man... at
least until about Thanksgiving of 2013.
Sheeesh, enough with the bitter vindictiveness, on both sides. I DO
think the end of last years' season for Utah should be disturbing, but I have
learned (by sad experience) never to underestimate Coach Whit. When people
predict an 8-3 season for the Utes, I believe it. But I absolutely believe they
will only have to travel 40 miles for one of those losses. As far as
no-one in the Midwest even knowing who Jake Heaps is, with or without the 'S', I
only wish more people were that stupid and arrogant. Then they wouldn't see it
coming and when it's over they wouldn't know what hit them. Some fans may be
that incredibly moronic or vitriolic, but I guarantee that players and coaches
in Texas, Mississippi, Florida and others are well aware of who Jake Heap(s) is
and what he can do. Utah MAY get a better bowl with a worse record
this year, and I promise not to be bitter! We won't know till they play all the
games, but I like our chances just fine. What I see from some Ute fans on these
boards is insecurity and fear.
Money does'nt equal success but magazine covers sure equal success.
BugoffAsk yourself this question Mr. Bugoff... If the
the PAC 12 or the BIG 12 called with an invitation to join their conference
tomorrow, how long would it take Tom Holmoe to accept?If you're
honest you know the answer is about a half second.Also ask yourself
the following question....Why did BYU wait until after the summer of
realignment ended without a Cougar invite before they decided that independence
was the option they wanted all along?If you're honest you know the
answer is that they were really hoping for a PAC 10 or a Big 12 invitation.Oh yeah... membership in a power conference is a superior situation to
whatever BYU has...And honest Cougars know it.Oh, and if
you are suggesting that the BCS will be short lived, you may be right.But you won't like the change, because it will be to 4 non-NCAA conferences of
16 teams that will continue to include Utah and exclude BYU.
Cougars1 | 1:34 p.m. Bluffdale, UT I have to agree with what SOME of
what the Utah faithful are saying. All the preseason recognition is very
nice...===What we learned with Jimmer last year is where there
is smoke, there usually is fire.This pre-season hype is coming from
the national media. Not BYU fans...BYU's comes on their own... (not
a former coach who "still can't say it", or a press conference sitting
at the end of the bench with the schools that got you there.)===Also, why can't fans talk about the upcoming season?Utah has
made giant strides from last year with an invite to be the 12th body.BYU made giant strides from last year also. But BYU is doing it on their own
name, their own athletic cachet (A mark or quality, as of distinction,
individuality, or authenticity).Uteology (1:21 p.m.) was posting the
same drivel about preseaon BYU basketball, before he finally let it go.
(Yeap?)When will Utah fans be happy just being fans of the U, and
stop the whining?Geez, just deposit your check, and stop stalking
BYU through the DesNews...It's unhealthy.
Fan base literacy drives what's on and between the covers.
BYU fans and Utah fans alike can come together today to enjoy the dismantling of
the Lakers by the Mavs. It doesn't matter who is better than who or who is
getting the most money or who has the most talented players. Right now all that
matters is that the Lakers are suffering. Happy mothers day.
I'm so jealous. St. Heaps will slow the glacier melt and bring glory back to
Provo! I wish I was a BYU fan.. I'm just not pious enough
Uteology"Yeap its preseson BYU's time of year."Yes, BYU fans are soooooooo much different than any other fanbase with high
expectations for the coming season.Get over your jealousy.There's a good reason Heaps is on the cover of a preseason magazine and Wynn
isn't.Despite Utah fans' best efforts to downplay Heaps since the
moment he announced that he was coming to BYU, the hype surrounding Jake started
to become reality the last half of last season.Even college football
analysts completely unconnected with BYU are recognizing Jake's talent and
potential.The BYU fanbase is excited to have Heaps as their starting
quarterback for the coming season.Can the Utah fanbase honestly say
the same thing about Wynn?
@wedgieThe dude said that they publish regional editions geared towards
schools in that area but that this was the NATIONAL edition, not a regional
edition.BTW, speaking of regional editions, for the Pac12 edition
they're doing a 4 page spread on BYU, not Utah (the newest member of their
conference). I guess that whole expansion debacle is an embarrassment that the
PAC 12 would rather not talk about it. Lets hope you don't get left out of the
Pac12's Pre-season media guide as well......
@Buster"Uteology (1:21 p.m.) was posting the same drivel about
preseaon BYU basketball, before he finally let it go."----I was? That's news to me, please provide my post I did that. Because I
can't recall the last time BYU basketball printed preseason
"Perfection" t-shirts or had Provo Airport celebrations for a 1-0 team
for me to say such a thing.@LonestarRunnerYes BYU fans are
sooooooo much different, why? Well I can't recall a single airport celebration
outside of Provo for a 1-0 team. Other fans wait until after the postseason to
print "Perfection" t-shirts... see Utah Utes 2008 season for an
example.Heaps still could be a Heisman winner, only time will tell.
But first he needs to lead his team to 17 points vs a .500 team before I jump
on his bandwagon.
LonestarRunner"There's a good reason Heaps is on the cover of a
preseason magazine..."*********And what is that good
reason?His stellar performance against the powerful UTEP miners in
the high profile New Mexico Bowl?
Best of luck to Jake and all of his teammates. I hope they work hard in the
coming months and return ready and hungry to compete. It is exciting that the
media, fans, and their coaches have high expectations for them as fall camp and
the season begin. That's what makes sports so fantastic--seeing if individual
effort, combined with the team dynamic and great coaching brings about desired
results.As for the bevy of U trolls and their endless nay-saying
harangues, I simply remember utahcountyute's proclamation that "Jimmer
Fredette and BYU basketball are not nationally relevant." Their general
insistence that the sun is not shining at mid-day on a cloudless afternoon
reminds me how much credence I should give their opinions about BYU sports.
Veritas,Ask a Ute and BYU has never won a game nor have they lost
one. Ute Trolls,The momentum is building in both
football and basketball. It must have been brutal watching the "Jimmer
Show" and now you are staring at what will soon be even larger which is BYU
football and the "Jake Show". Now is the time to jump ship from what
will be a losing record in football and another train wreck in basketball. Get
out now while you still can even it is a defection to Utah State.
@ Hank Pym (12:00pm)-...and some root for the Boise State Broncos
VeritasI agree 100%. I am very excited for the coming year.WallywestI promise you that BYU fans have not forgotten the
winningest qb in the history of BYU. BYU fans just know that when one great qb
leaves, there is 2 or 3 more waiting in the wings to take over. Utah wouldn't
know a Heisman hopeful if it bit them in the butt. When was the last time Utah
had a qb on the Heisman watch list? BSU has even had a couple. Reason #747 why
Utah fans have no credibility when it comes to analyzing Heaps' abilities.
Hank PymComparing the size of BYU's fan base to the Yankees and
Lakers is quite a compliment. Thank you.Now if you would kindly
remove yourself from the Wasatch Front, you would realize just how many BYU fans
there are. They are a national group that is huge.
Independence with $millions next year vs $0 next year feels just about right.After that, the monetary futures of both schools is yet to be completely
written. At least BYU's doesn't have a cap on it.It cracks me up how
now that the Utes are in the Pac-12 and have a conference ESPN contract in their
future (bit by bit), they still HAVE to post on BYU articles. Sad. Really sad.
UteologyIt's laughable that you're constantly bringing up an airport
"celebration" that involved a couple dozen fans. It just shows how
desperate you are to find something to pick at.And, why wouldn't a
team print a "quest" t-shirt before the season?After all,
it's not a "quest" after it's been accomplished. The Utes are just too
chicken to declare their "quests" ahead of time; that way they can
save face when their "quest" fails miserably, like it did last
season.Remember all of the bluster from Utah fans before "the
biggest game in the history of Utah"?
Quite an honor for Heaps to be on the cover of a national magazine with Andrew
Luck and Kellen Moore. He isnt yet at their level but then again he is just
entering his sophmore season while the other two are seniors so he isnt expected
to be. Heaps has a ton of potential and ability to be a great QB, hopefully he
can continue to build on what he was able to do the second half of last season.
Good Luck Jake, im looking forward to seeing you continue to develop and
hopefully become another one of the many great QBs to play at BYU.
@hank pym and utah broncoSure there are a few of each of those. A
The thing I liked most was Mr Harmon recognizing the BYU is "over
hyped". Of course, he contributes mightily to this condition as well but
it is good to see some in the media recognize the problem. Just
keep it real with managed expectations and people will view BYU's year better
than if they over promise (hype) and under deliver as they often do. Hope for
a very successful year is much different than talk about easily being 10-2 again
when they play teams like Texas, Old Miss, OSU, TCU and Utah. Even if you are
still certain your team is the best a dose of humility would greatly improve the
teams image. Just follow the Boise State coach's approach and you will do fine.
Add in Whittinghams approach about not worrying about titles and BCS games
until November because if you good enough to be there you will be there in
November when the entrance fee for these games is really paid.
Heaps will be the next BYU qb to win a super bowl ring if Beck or Max Hall don't
beat him to it. Ha ha, comparing Jordan Wynn to Jake Heaps is like
comparing Alex Smith to Steve Young.Heaps has nothing to worry
about. He will have a breakout year. You can bet your house on it. Mark my words
and mark it down.
@Cougars1"They are a national group that is huge."***********Mr. Cougars1 - If you can't prove it,
you're just making it up.Would you care to back up your claim with
anything that is verifiable and quantifiable?Or are you satisfied to
continue to perpetuate the unfounded, unsupported Cougar myth of a vast national
Realistically--Kellen Moore is the best QB in the West, hands down. Andrew is a
distant second. Heaps really hasn't done anything to even be mentioned with the
other two. Maybe he will be by the end of this year, but as of now, it really
is all hype. He's had a couple of good games against lousy teams, but I'll
reserve judgement until after the first 4 games of the season. Here's hoping
he'll live up to the hype.
Does anyone honestly think the utes will be in a bowl game this year? In their
second year, they'll qualify for pac-12 benefits, but will be a bottom dweller.
Boise St. has played in two BCS Bowl Games.Boise St. had to go
undefeated to gain access to a BCS Bowl Game.Why did BSU have to go
undefeated?Utah St., San Jose St., Idaho St., New Mexico St., Idaho
etc.Until BYU can drop those kinds of teams from their schedule,
they will be held to the same standard.One loss, in an overtime
game, dropped Boise St. from a BCS game to the Las Vegas Bowl.Heaps
could have an outstanding/record breaking year, like Kellen Moore from Boise St.
did last year, and still not lead BYU to a BCS game, due to one loss
"standard".An undefeated season is imperative if BYU is to
avoid being relegated to one of the 2nd tier bowls.
"Why did BYU wait until after the summer of realignment ended without a
Cougar invite before they decided that independence was the option they wanted
all along?"You are very uninformed Howard S. BYU has had the
option of independence for several years now. However, BYU wasn't going to
leave Utah alone in the MWC.You have no credibility, yet you try to
speak as an "expert" in these matters. I congratulate the
Utes for their leap into the PAC12. Good luck to both teams in the upcoming
T-spoon"BYU has had the option of independence for several
years now."***************That's the spin, and some
people actually believe it.
Howard S.The ESPN contract is all the proof you need buddy. An 8yr independent contract with ESPN speaks volumes about BYU's national
presence. Sure Utah can get a great TV deal when coupled with bigger and
better programs, but BYU has shown it can stand on its own. And this can only
be a result of ESPN knowing that lots and LOTS of people will be watching the
Cougars playing on ESPN.Also, there were 20,000+ in attendance at
the BYU vs. OU game just two years ago. Does Utah even have 20,000 fans?
SeriouslyI know this may be too complicated for simple minders like
yourself, but the facts are the facts. BYU is directly associated with
the LDS church. Which obviously brings in a large national fanbase in itself.
BYU was the only team in the country (before Texas) to have an exclusive
Independent contract with ESPN. You have to be hopelessly delusional to ignore
such strong indications.
There You Go Again,"Until BYU can drop those kinds of teams
from their schedule, they will be held to the same standard."Your argument holds no weight, because BSu only played WAC teams and 1 or 2
BCS team a year.BYU will face FIVE BCS teams in its first year of
Independence. BSu has played a total of 8 BCS teams since 2004. (Georgia,
Oregon St. x3, Oregon x2, Washington, and VT) There is really no
comparison. An 11-1 BYU = BCS gameDepending on the timing and
the competition, I think a 10-2 BYU could even crack into the BCS.That is if the BCS is still around a year or two from now.. This anti-trust
case seems to be gaining momentum.
@TheSportsAuthorityYou say couple dozen, DN says "several
hundred". Regardless, that's N more than any other fan base.DN
Monday, Sept. 7, 2009:"In the wake of [a 1-0 start] spontaneous
celebrations erupted throughout [Provo] and lasted well into the early hours of
the morning on Sunday... BYU fans formed impromptu gatherings at places like
LaVell Edwards Stadium, the Marriott Center, and the Wilkinson Center, among
others, and several hundred of them showed up at the Provo Municipal Airport to
welcome home the team when it landed at 1:45 in the morning."Look this is nothing new, same old preseason hype every year..."I feel we're going to be one of the best receiving corps that ever came
through BYU. Probably one of the top 10 in the nation as well. I believe in our
receiving corps." -- DN Aug. 14, 2010 All I know is as of now
Heaps had a horrible year, beat up on bad teams struggled to score against
better defenses. As of today the real question is will BYU win the national
championship or will Heaps win the Heisman first?
JayDee, I guess the Utes would say that on that day there was a total eclipse of
the sun, so the sun was not shining!
Howard S., do you have any proof that the "huge fan base" for BYU
sports is a myth? I didn't think so.
Jake is an INCREDIBLE Quarterback and he was an All-American as a Freshman! Name one QB who passed for 2,300 yards and 16 passing touchdowns (along with
one running the ball) in their Freshman year! Not even Ty Detmer got THAT far in
his Freshman year and Detmer was great even in his Freshman year! Jake Heaps
played amazing and he is now about to play incredible and be one of the GREATS!
It's Quarterbacks like HIM that leads teams to a BCS championship, or National
Championship. Cougar fans, get ready for an amazing and improved football
season! RAW! RAW! RAW! RAW! RAW! RAW! GOOOOOOO COUGARS!!!!!!!! ROAR!!!
@Howard S.We deal with facts here, can't handle it? Move on.*BYU-TV has been on National Networks for over a decade now. *Five years ago, plans were set in motion for the Nations best broadcast
facility to be constructed. $50 million.*3 years ago, construction
began and was nearly complete, before Utah was even invited to the Pac 10.2.*HD hard wiring to all the venues at BYU was completed one year before
Utah went Pac 10.2Yes Howie, BYU always plans 5-10 years out.Stop flattering yourself in thinking that BYU's Independence was only in
response to utah's move.In fact, BYU's delay in going Independent
was because BYU was too considerate of Utah. Once Utah went their own way, BYU
was ready and pulled the trigger. No way BYU puts it all together in 60 days,
from scratch.This has been a serious option for BYU for a nearly a
decade and talked about for 25 years. When the TV contract was rocked with new
ownership of the mtn., things began to move.All those involved in
the original TV deal, Bateman, Checketts, Val Hale etc.,are long gone.
@Howard S.BYU does not have to justify their National Brand, Cache
or Legacy to guys like you.The fact that ESPN is paying Millions for
BYU's Brand and tapping it's National Fanbase, escapes your ability to
comprehend, is not our problem, it's your's.Here are some quotes
from:Dave Brown, Excutive Vice President for ESPN programming.
"In the realm that is College Football, BYU's Brand is both National and
Relevant"."There is a proud and remarkable history of
success at BYU, adding that their ability as a "National Brand" is
going to be "great." "BYU always rates great for
us" "The great thing about BYU, is the other Big Names in
the sport love playing em, just because of everything that BYU represents"
"We have had a great relationship with BYU over the years
thanks in part to LaVell Edwards, who gave us so many signature games in
the past that really put ESPN on the Map in terms of being a College Football
Destination Network." Now Howard S.Show us
"Yes Howie, BYU always plans 5-10 years out.Stop flattering
yourself in thinking that BYU's Independence was only in response to utah's
move."Beluga,No ones argueing that byu was looking
into such technology for the past few years. What is being challenged is Y they
pulled the trigger only days afer Utah was invited ( and not byu) to the
Conference of Champions.Would bYu be independent if Utah was still a
Non AQ like the kewgs? I think even you Beluga, must admit that bYu pulled the
knee jerk reaction MAINLY because of Utah moving to a much better conference.
@UteologySaid:"As of today the real question is will BYU
win the national championship or will Heaps win the Heisman first?"One thing is for certian Ms. Uteology.......1-BYU
"HAS" already WON a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and 2-BYU
"HAS" also had a player WIN a HEISMAN TROPHY.And that is
part of what constitutes a Legacy program.Unfortunately your Utes
have done NEITHER!U see, when one has been there and done that, it's
not improbable. When one has never even come close, then that is
more likely a fantasy. That be U.
hedgeKnee jerk would infer that there was no thought or planning
before making the decision. That is absolutely false. However, I do believe that
if you read Bluto's comments you would see that he acknowledged Utah going to
the PAC as a key to them finally pulling the trigger. You guys really need to
read the comments before you comment.By the way, what team has a
parade for finishing fourth? Answer, Utah.
" see, when one has been there and done that, it's not improbable"Beluga,So what your saying is that getting to a BCS game or
getting invited to a BCS conference are imprabable to the kewgs.Got
Jordan WynnRAT YDS TD INT CMP%91.5 2334 17 10 62.2Jake
HeapsRAT YDS TD INT CMP%78.2 2316 15 9 57.2Uteology,Those are the numbers for both Heaps and Wynn. Remember Heaps was a
freshman, Wynn was a sophomore. Also, Heaps didn't get all of the snaps at the
start of the year. Please show us some stats of a true freshman that are
comparable and then tell us all how really bad Heaps is.
Uteology and Hedgehog:What would you kids prefer?That
National Sports magazines ignore BYU athletics? That ESPN refuse to televise
games they know will make them money?That BYU fans refuse to
recognize how good Jimmer and the basketball program was, and how bright their
future looks?That fans don't get excited about how how the team
finished last year? How about they look past how much potential Heaps has?===My suggestion, is for you kids to get excited about the
University ofUtah and the PAC if you can't see what is going on in Utah
County...Or take the easy way out, and get excited for, and support
all teams from Utah.
**ONE Person Per Year, wins the Heisman Memorial Trophy....est. 1935**One team per year (possibly two) wins the National Championship in
Football.National Championship Trophies:Major:
Associated Press est. 1936 (Writers) AFCA est. 1950
(Coaches) UPI, USA-T/ESPNorCNN, USA-T, BCS Grantland Rice est. 1954
(FWAA) MacArthur est. 1959 (NFF)The
Selectors which are used to determine the teams listed as "CONSENSUS
NATIONAL CHAMPIONS" in the NCAA record book, are.... *AP Poll
(Writers) *AFCA (Coaches) *FWAA (Football Writers Association
of America) *NFF (National Football Foundation) BYU was
voted Number-One, by Every One of These Organizations.BYU..1984
"Consensus National Champion"! No Debate....No SplitTry
as you may Hedgie, to equate a BCS bowl game with a National Championship or a
Heisman, it is NOT the same.Ten teams per year play in a BCS game.
The contrived Illegal BCS system was only established in 1998, it does not have
the History nor Prestige that a N/C and Heisman have.And nobody
believes the BCS will be around for 60-70 or 80 years as the Heisman and N/C's
have been.We understand, It's all You have to cling to.
chrissy,hedgie, honorless and the others from the chorus line are really on one.
Just can't stand to see all the good publicity BYU constantly gets. Rollin with
the trollin, zealous with the jealous, unconfessed but still obsessed and
transparent as glass with lack of class. Keep it up children, the adults are not
amused much anymore but I'm sure all of you are impressing each other in some
way. Very comical.
Uteology"Look this is nothing new, same old preseason hype
every year..."Get real. EVERY team has preseason
hype, except, I guess, the Utes. It's funny how you beat your chest when the
Utes are ranked in a pre-season poll or Utah's spring practice is covered by
Urban Meyer on ESPN, but then bag on BYU fans for being excited about their
sophomore QB sensation being featured on the cover of a pre-season college
football magazine.BYUs win over Oklahoma was hardly
"pre-season" and there's absolutely NO difference between BYU fans
greeting their returning football team at the airport to celebrate their win and
Utah fans rushing the field THREE times during the 2008 season to celebrate
wins. As far as BYU's quest/goal, why would you print T-shirts AFTER
the fact. That's like announcing your goal to bust the BCS AFTER the season.After two-straight 11-2, Top 15 finishes, a goal of an undefeated season
was very reasonable.Utah fans are just jealous that BYU's lone
undefeated season ended with the ULTIMATE prize, a National Championship!Utah fans have to be content with 2nd/4th/5th.
The Official NCAA website maintains a list national champions in every NCAA
sport, including Coaches AND AP national champions in major college football.Strangely, there is no list of BCS busters or 2nd place finishers.Draw your own conclusions.
Well, with Heaps getting married in June, that takes the whole mission thing out
of the picture. Looks like he's planning on playing ball for all 4 years, and
perhaps a career in the NFL. Good for him and his soon-to-be family. Dear ESPN, could you please stop showing Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder
highlights? Those 30 second segments of footage remind us all how horrible this
front 7 were at tackling last season. Hopefully Bronco can steer
the ship right with his defensive control this year.
I love this. Just a simple picture and little notoriety for BYU and U fans go
ballistic. It's just too predictable.
Anyone who watched Heaps last year saw the maturation and development of a QB
who is going to be very, very good. I suspect we will see him continue to
develop at a rapid rate in his Sophomore year as well. By the time he finishes
his career at BYU he will be be in the same conversations as McMahon, Young and
Detmer. Anyone who thinks he is just another QB, didn't watch 13 BYU football
games last year.Wynn on the other hand looks like just another D1
QB. It doesn't take an expert to realize he's not cut out of the same cloth as
Alex Smith or Brian Johnson. Maybe it was his injured shoulder and he has more
to offer, but I haven't seen anything to show me he is going to lead the Utes to
PAC12 glory.In fact, I would venture to say that any of BYU's
backups (Nelson, Lark or Munns) could beat out Wynn for the starting job if they
had chosen the team up north.With Hill, Mangum, Olsen and Kuresa as
QB commits, the future is very bright!
Another young LDS quarterback needs watching. Chandler Cox is an eighth grader
now working out with the Apopka, Florida High school varsity. Apopka is a
perenially top ten team nationally. Chandler, now 6'1" and 170 lbs led his
Apopka league team to the 8th grade Regional championship in Florida. He was
selected as one of four All American 8th grade quarterbacks in the National
Championship tournament where he was selected MVP. He loves BYU but will
certainly be looked at by the major Southern Schools as his career progresses.
@idablu 9:38pm May8:"Realistically--Kellen Moore is the best QB
in the West, hands down. Andrew is a distant second."WHAT???idablu, I hate to burst your bubble, and I am a huge Kellen Moore fan,
but to say Luck is a distant second is completely ridiculous. Seriously - have
you even ever watched Luck play?? Andrew Luck is a man among boys - pay better
attention - this guy is a major stud. I would put my money on Luck over Moore
all things being equal. Again - in my humble opinion Moore is terrific.
I'm glad that Heaps is getting all this publicity so early in the football
season. This way he'll be used to all the hub bub by the time the season starts
and he is receiving much more attention.It's cool, too, that Dick
Harmon is bringing this to light. As one of the better writers in Utah, he has
a special place in my heart. I once saw him slurping up a froosty frozen treat
the the creamery and I was too afraid to request his autograph. If I saw him,
today, I would be far less timid. I'd ask for him to sign my forearm with a
Sharpie. Bold, yes. Cool, double yes.
"I love this. Just a simple picture and little notoriety for BYU and U fans
go ballistic. It's just too predictable."Ditto. It's easy for
them to hide behind a computer screen.
re: Tom in CA.Ok, "distant" second may be a little harsh, but I
still stand by my position that Moore is the best college QB in the West. As an
NFL prospect, no doubt, Luck ranks higher, but what Moore does for his team, and
the way he sees the field, and the accuracy of his arm. . ., I just haven't seen
anyone better. If Heaps pans out like these guys did, I'll be very
Great. Heaps started to show some potential at the end of last season. Who
cares. His great games were against pathetic to lower tiered teams. The same
teams that Jordan Wynn beat up. That doesnt make Wynn the next Heisman winner,
and the same holds true for Joke Hypes. Once Jake has a good game against a team
that is halfway decent, above .500 (the bowl game vs UTEP doesnt count. they
were worse than Wyoming but somehow made a bowl) then Athlon and other sporting
magazines can start to talk about him. A Y fan had to email in for them to spell
his name right, at it was already on the cover on the back of his jersey. No one
knows who this kid is, and no one will after this season either. the only way
JOKE gets noticed is if he beats Texas and Utah on national TV, and neither of
those things will happen. Even with Texas being down, and Utah having offensive
issues with new players and coaches, the Kewgs will still lose both of those
Wasn't coach Whitt on the 84 championship team? I wonder what he'd think if U
fan told him to his face that it was tainted. Just sayin'
The utes will never play another BCS bowl game. With luck, maybe a Vegas Bowl,
but it will be at least a few years if ever. This has been marked.
Contrary to rampant rumors abroad in the world of Collegiate sports, BYU and the
LDS Church DO NOT own Sports Illustrated or Athlon Sports. They simply know a
great talent when they see one.
Papa Smurf UTEWhat U, and all of the other Utah naysayers are too
blind to see is that BYU fan excitement isn't based on Heaps' stats or his
competition.What excites BYU fans is the poise, footwork, reads,
delivery, and execution we saw from Heaps in the second half of the season,
reminiscent of many of the great quarterbacks who have played for QB U.BYU fans recognize great QB talent when they see it, and they see it in spades
with Jake Heaps. All of the hype surrounding Jake coming out of high school
started to take shape in the second half of Jake's freshman season.I
put the Jake-doubting Utah fans in the same category as the Utah fans who last
season were claiming that Henderson was as good as Jimmer. Come September,
they'll be eating their words.When BYU fans say that anyone of BYU's
backup QBs could start at the U in place of Wynn, it's not just hype.
BYU has been pumping QBs for more than 30 years now. We get up close and
personal looks at these guys almost every night. We know what it feels like to
have top talent because we get it all the time.
DeepBlueUtah State falls into your list of cupcakes, even though
they're probably going to be a decent team, and one BYU certainly won't be
looking past after last season, but regardless of how good Utah State is, the
national view of the Aggies is they're a cupcake.
"the only way JOKE gets noticed is if he beats Texas and Utah on national
TV, and neither of those things will happen. Even with Texas being down, and
Utah having offensive issues with new players and coaches, the Kewgs will still
lose both of those games."Wow, that's quite a bold statement
saying that BYU will not beat Utah. I'm guessing that you didn't watch the
BYU-Utah game last year, or you forgot that this next year it's in Provo and BYU
will be much improved and with an offensive coordinator that will not hesitate
to score TDs rather than play timidly. The Texas game is also winnable.By the way, Jimmer's name was mispelled: does that mean he wasn't
well-known? I'm sure Jake Heaps' name will become known, like people know
"the only way [HEAPS] gets noticed is if he beats Texas and Utah on
national TV"So you're saying HEAPS:--won't get
noticed, if he beats Ole Miss at Ole Miss on national TV?--won't get
noticed, if he beats TCU in Cowboys Stadium on national TV?--won't get
noticed, if he beats Oregon St at Oregon State on national TV?What a
sad, pathetic prognostication, even for a Utah troll!You know, just
because a Utah troll predicts that BYU won't get noticed, doesn't make it so:See Jimmer -- winner of EVERY major national player of the year
award...despite Chris B's, hedgehog's, and other Utah troll's best
Utah fansIn the words of Karl Malone, "News
flash".....everybody already knows Jake Heaps. He was the number one ranked
qb recruit for his recruiting class. There was so much hype around Jake Heaps,
even some of you are calling him Jake Hypes. It's not a matter of whether or not
he gets noticed, it's a matter of whether or not he lives up to the
"hype". That might explain all the press.Let's be
realistic. Jake has a quick release, his footwork is astounding, his pocket
presence is off the charts, his mechanics are that of a 5th year senior, and he
has a rocket for an arm. BYU's coaches just need to make sure he doesn't get
hurt, and that they coach up the players around him.Bashing Heaps
doesn't make Wynn any better, it just makes Utah fans look like a bunch of
people who don't know the first thing about analyzing a good qb.
Love BYU fans, I really do. Myth: Heaps got better at the end of
year.FACT: BYU's competition got worse at the end of year.12 of his 15 TDs: Utep (4), CSU (4), UNM (2), and UNLV (2)BYU fans
talking as though they just won a Heisman and a national title this decade.
News flash teams that are a "legacy" program don't have impromptu
celebrations for a 1-0 team nor is their biggest accomplishment in a decade is
over a over hyped preseason #3 team:Football win over OklahomaLed by a strong defensive effort and quarterback Max Hall's 328 yards
passing, No. 20 BYU stunned No. 3 Oklahoma 14-13 on Sept 5 in the first college
game played in the new Dallas Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. The win marked the Cougars first victory over a top-3 team since defeating
No.1 Miami on Sep 8, 1990.-- Tom Holmoe, BYU AD speaks at BYU's
Campus Education Week 2010As Flavor Flav once said, "Don't
Believe The Hype[s]".
UteologyYour "Myth: Heaps got better at the end of
year."Fact: Heaps played much better the second half of the
season.You're simply proving how little you know about college
football by attributing ALL of Heaps improvement to lesser competition.Utah had THREE impromptu celebrations in 2008 at home after beating teams that
were ranked MUCH lower than #3.The fact is, Utah has NEVER beaten a
Top 3 team.Legacy programs win National Championships, Heisman
Trophies, and are perennial Top 25 finishers.BYU finished the decade
with FIVE Top 25 finishes.Utah has only had FIVE Top 25 finishes in
their ENTIRE history (both polls).Who's really the pretender here
"BYU fans talking as though they just won a Heisman and a national title
this decade."-Uteology130+ comments on this thread and not one
BYU fans has suggested that BYU has won a Heisman and a NC this decade. Now that
U mention it, how many have U won.You still haven't produced numbers
of a true freshman that had better numbers than Heaps last year.
UteologyUtah fans are constantly beating their chests about NFL
draft picks as validation of having a good team.So, how would you
rate a team that had three of the first four NFL players drafted, including the
#1 overall pick in the NFL draft?
@Uteology" Love BYU fans, I really do. Myth: Heaps got better
at the end of year.FACT: BYU's competition got worse at the end of
year."Your beloved Wynnie put up all his numbers he had for
last year against the same cupcake teams BYU played at the end of the year and
you were bragging that Wynnie was ranked in the top 10 on the stupid ranking
chart. Mark it down, Wynn will have worse #'s this year compared to BYU and USU
QB's. You will have the worst QB running your offense in the state! Regardless
who gets the nod at USU, your QB will be the worst out of these 3 schools. I
believe Hart will get the nod at USU who will be a redshirt freshman who was in
the same class Heaps came out in and will still be better than Wynnie. For your
sake, hopefully this surgery Wynnie had gave him a new heart to, because he has
none on the football field. I can't wait until Sept when BYU smashes U and too
bad you are not playing USU this year because we would smash you to!
Whether or not the Y fan base is as "huge" as some of them suggest, or
as "overblown" as others have questioned, is debatable. But in my
opinion, BYU fans are amongst the most optimistic. But sometimes
there's a fine line between optimism and delusional, when it comes to fandom. So
if putting Heaps on the cover of Athlon does get the Y fans excited and
optimistic, that's cool. But in order to truly be worthy of comparisons to Moore
and Luck, Heaps will have to do more than put up gaudy stats against teams like
UTEP, Idaho State, and NMSU.---True Blue, to answer your
question just look at another one of QBs on the cover:Kellen
Moore:3,486 YDs, 25 Passing TDs as a frosh.BCS win as a
sophomore.Also consider Andrew Luck:2,575 YDS, 13 Passing TDs
(2 Rush) as a redshirt freshmanBCS win as a sophomore.What
will Heaps face in his sophomore season? Good, but not stellar competition, much
like Moore's sophomore season in the WAC. The Broncos beat TCU in the Fiesta,
but BSU needed perfection to get to the BCS. That's what's needed.