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Published: Saturday, April 30 2011 11:01 p.m. MDT

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Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Pro-life.

Anti-choice.

I am reluctant to fight for the 'rights' of a life...

when they are in a womans uterus.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

I am opposed to abortion. Unfortunately there is a hypocrisy in the right to life movement. The same conservatives who oppose abortion fight health care reform, sex education in public schools, and any other programs that would discourage unwanted pregnancies and improve the life of children. The far left is just as bad. They see an abortion as nothing more than a routine medical procedure with no long term consequences. What a sad situation we are in when we let political extremist's on both sides control politics in this country.

Grover
Salt Lake City, UT

What would really be cool is if the "movement" stopped limiting their concern for new life from conception until delivery and took responsibility for the new life they saved with programs to support the new mothers, affordable daycare, after school programs for the kids to help them grow up to become responsible (and tax paying) members of society).

The current nine month focus has become just another partisan divide in our community. You would think that "respect for life" would mean "lifelong respect for life", but alas no. Sad.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

It's funny that so many of the "pro-lifers" out there are usually the ones who want to cut aid to mothers, cut school budgets, and make birth control more difficult to get. If they cared about babies after they were born instead of before, maybe I'd take them more seriously.

conservative scientist
Lindon, UT

This is a good and informative article. I like the focus on two sides trying to have some real discussion. This is truly a very difficult and emotional and politically charged issue.

TheAtheist
slc, u

There is no pro life movement in the works. If anything there is a pro choice movement as society expands its mind and becomes more educated. Take the time to think for yourself. Free your mind and do not run on automatic.

GWB
West Jordan, UT

I'm puzzled by the headline "Pro-life movement making a comeback"

Was the "pro-life" movement in decline?

When did they lose support?

When did they lose the ardent political supporters doing their bidding?

If they were not in decline, then they couldn't be making a comeback.

The only thing that should be in decline is the use of the term "pro-life". The majority of "pro-life" people I know (with the exception of most Catholics) support the death penalty. That means they support life only for fetuses and not for anyone who is already sentient and can breath on their own without assitance from their mother. They only oppose taking life through abortion - plain and simple.

Please call them by what they actually stand for - "anti-abortion".

formerUT
Osawatomie, KS

I agree with all the comments. I am incredibly pro-life. Incredibly. BUT---there is no point in "saving" lives---if the same people on either side of the isle do not fund help to those who "save" such lives. I am especially disgusted by those on the right and the left who EITHER justify life giving assistance as just "medical" processes (left)--and am especially disgusted by those on the right end who feel they have a right to judge those whom have children out of wed-lock, refuse health coverage to those who choose to have a child no matter what (i.e. they choose to have a baby with a disability--yet the "right" refuse to fund medical care, services, education, and so forth to that family). Both sides are immensely hypocritical!!! I am very pro-life--but recognize that life begins at conception--it does not stop needing support until the true "end"

Oh--and I'm also annoyed that none of this discussion included the FATHERS--nor the insane idiocy of supposed law-makers trying to outlaw appropriate medical care and choices to women who NEED such care and choices (i.e. miscarriage).

Linus
Bountiful, UT

Editor: When we write a post that breaks one of your rules, please allow us to fix it, rather than have it disappear.

KM
Cedar Hills, UT

We, as a society can make laws and call it whatever we want, but in the end, its taking a life of an innocent unborn human. Have we become so calous that we are no different than the terrorists we so despise? Have we become death worshippers also?

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

Who is affected by outlawing all abortions after 21 weeks? Is it those who believe abortion is an accepted form of birth control- a convenient way to terminate an unwanted pregnancy? Or is most likely to apply in a situation where rape, incest or the life of the mother is at stake?

runwasatch
Ogden, UT

It is stunning to read the comments above that essentially say that a lack of funding for women's and children's programs (which both parties are guilty of cutting) is justification for abortion. Simply stunning...

The contortions into which abortion advocates will stretch in an effort to justify an unjustifiable (rape, incest, and mother's life excluded) act are laughable...

Joggle
Clearfield, UT

One of the mistakes the pro-life side makes is falsely assuming that pro-choice is pro-abortion. As stated in this article....when we talk about fetal life, let's not talk simply about abortion. Let's talk about the total ramifications. Let's talk about reducing abortion without eliminating choice. Unfortunately, the pro-life side often wants to stop discussion about the total ramifications and simply force women to abide by their personal religion based moral compass of it being simply wrong without ever trying to understand all the issues surrounding it, such as the fact that making abortion illegal will not stop abortion. The trouble is that the U.S. government cannot acknowledge the existence of an immortal soul implanted at conception without taking on a specific, theological definition of personhood which often disagree with each other.

One of the best-kept secrets of the pro-life and pro-choice movements is that the two movements ultimately overlap to the extent that they share the goal of reducing the number of abortions. They differ only with respect to degree and methodology. Reducing unplanned pregnancies can be a goal of both sides. Better birth control will eventually make_abortion_obsolete.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

Two comments. GWB, I happily describe my position on this issue as anti-abortion, rather than the euphemistic "pro-life." Will you then describe your position as pro-abortion, rather than the euphemistic "pro-choice?"

For an anti-abortionist to favor capital punishment is no more hypricritical than for one against the death penalty to be pro-abortion. Either position seems contradictory.

As for people who oppose legislators who work to cut this or that favorite program: How do you feel about those who are trying to balance our budget and not spend money we don't have. How do you feel about those who are trying, in as fair a way as possible, to enable our children and grandchildren to live in a world that is not dominated by high taxes and impossible federal debt? How would you feel about the private sector, you and I and our charitable organizations, taking responsibility to help the helpless -- rather than continuing policies of tax and spend and more debt so we can rely on Uncle Sam to take care of us?

ignoranceisbliss
Salt Lake City, UT

This goes far beyond decisions made about pregnancy. The more "choices" taken away from the American people, the more freedom is lost. It will be a sad day for democracy and the reason America was founded in the first place.

LAL
South Jordan, UT

I don't pretend to understand all sides of this issue. Yes, I too have my own desire to see abortion gone. However, I don't understand why I NEVER read about adoption being an option? Do you have any idea how many families are waiting for a miracle to call their own? I am very thankful for our adopted miracle and for his birth mother and birth father who not only gave him life, but gave us the ability to become a family and in return they were each given their lives back to make better choices going forward. Thank you birth families we will love and support you forever.

Grover
Salt Lake City, UT

Old cougar makes a great point...we need to immediately remove the tax deduction for charitable contributions which will both cut the deficit AND let the truly charitable "take care of the helpless". That is what you were proposing, right?

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

"If we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill each other?...Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love but to use any violence to get what they want."

"Many people are very, very concerned with children in India, with the children of Africa where quite a few die of hunger, and so on. Many people are also concerned about all the violence in this great country of the United States.

"These concerns are very good. But often these same people are not concerned with the millions who are being killed by the deliberate decision of their own mothers. And this is what is the greatest destroyer of peace today - abortion, which brings people to such blindness."

These words were spoken by Mother Teresa at a National Prayer Breakfast in Washington when Clinton was President. Her words sting to those who support this immoral act.

To add to the comparison between abortion and capital punishment, here's a major difference: those on death row likely commited a horrible crime to get themselves there. Unborn babies have done NOTHING wrong!

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Actions have consequences.

If we overeat, we're going to destroy OUR body.

If we smoke, we're going to destroy OUR body.

If we drink, or take drugs we're going to destroy OUR body.

If a man and woman have sex and that action leads to pregnancy and they choose to end that pregnancy via an abortion, they're not destroying themselves, they've chosen to destroy another person, the innocent victim of their actions, the person who would become a human being, living, breathing, laughing, just like them.

Something is rotten when two people can act together and then decide to destroy the person who is the result of their action.

Who speaks for the innocent victim?

Who chooses to let him live?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I echo the statements of several on this board, namely there are huge areas we can agree on such as the need to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies, and to stop perpetuating the double standard where men's role in creating the problem is not addressed. I hear little about in vitro fertilization which results in many embryos being destroyed. We can look at states such as Texas which has the highest rate of teenaged girls with 2 or more children and know whatever they're doing or not doing has been a big failure. Women who have higher levels of education have lower rates of unplanned pregnancy (here Texas fails too). Defunding Planned Parenthood clinics is NOT a step in the right direction. We also don't want to put women who have a legitimate and critical reason for getting an abortion under undue duress. I applaud the woman opposed to abortion who takes it upon herself to care for pregnant unwed mothers.

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