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Published: Thursday, April 28 2011 10:13 p.m. MDT

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anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Reid: That's all part of the debate, that's all part of the debate, that's all part of the debate. But NOT if it's enforcement. That's NOT allowed to be part of the debate; that's NOT allowed to be a "starting point."

And there is something dreadfully wrong with, "I am going to do whatever my church wants, even if it means betraying my constituents and violating my oath to defend the Contitution." Incidentally, when word of this spreads across the nation, it likely is going to hurt Romney's and Huntsman's candidacies -- as it frankly ought to.

T-Jeff
Uinta Basin, Utah

"Those people who are criticizing HB116 are misplacing their efforts; their energy should be directed at the Congressional delegation and all of Congress to do their job, to do their duty and create an immigration policy for this nation."

I'd have to disagree with that statement. We already have an immigration policy. The only problem with it is that the Executive Branch (both sides) has failed miserably to enforce it. Failure to enforce the law will breed contempt for all law. Congress may use Article 2, Section 4 to encourage Presidents to actually do their job and their duty and enforce the laws Congress has instituted.

CJ
Murray, UT

You guys are dreaming, the opposition to this is strong and getting stronger every day,a few small counties who need pickers voting in favor of it means zero, Utah county is going to shoot this down bog time

John Adams
Miami, FL

Perhaps I missed something, but I did not see that the article provided any real evidence to support the claim that "momentum now favors HB116."

Looks to me like a feeble attempt at the ol' Jedi mind trick.

wrz
SLC, Utah

"Those people who are criticizing HB116 are misplacing their efforts; their energy should be directed at the Congressional delegation and all of Congress to do their job, to do their duty and create an immigration policy for this nation."

Congress has done its duty. There is a national immigration policy now. What needs to be done is to enforce the law. Utah doesn't need to do anything except perhaps assure that the state has an agreement with Federal ICE to assist in their assigned enforcement requirements.

Furthermore, HB 116, if implemented would make criminals out of state employees. Federal Immigration and Nationality Act (8 USC 1324) makes it a felony to knowingly assist an illegal immigrant in obtaining employment. How stupid can our state legislators and governor be passing such a stupid law!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Republican thinking (or lack therof:)

Mormons not supporting the LDS church regarding California Prop 8 = Bad.
Mormons not supporting the LDS church regarding HB116 = Good.

Thanks for showing everyone your true colors, hypocrites.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

HB 116?
Utah's HB 469 throws out over 100 years of US case law about immigration, creates a way for Utahns to sponsor people from around the world, providing the immigrants are not in the US illegally.

The Constitution of the United States grants authority to the federal government to regulate foreign commerce and to adopt a uniform rule of naturalization. [Citizenship not Immigration]

HB 469 claims that there is NOTHING in the US Constitution that grants the Federal Government power over Immigration and prior Case Law mentioned above, the States had that Power.

HB 469 tells the Federal Government to protect our borders, create rules for granting citizenship, but as the State of Utah, we can take care of immigration, thank you very much.

The sponsoring principle of HB 469 provides a limiting factor of how fast immigrants can come, makes sure they do not place a larger burden than we can handle, and is more like co-signing a friend's car loan. It is the truly unique piece of the puzzle. With it, you don't need HB 116. Someone here illegally could find a sponsor, go home and come back with permission.

Miss Piggie
SLC, Utah

@Utah_1: "Someone here illegally could find a sponsor, go home and come back with permission."

We don't need more immigrants. We have no work for them. Utah has 100K unemployed. America has 15,000K unemployed. All sucking up unemployment benefits from money we don't have and must borrow from China. Immigrants should stay home and improve their own countries. We don't need you and don't want you. Please stay home. And if you're here illegally, please leave.

OldBoldCyclist
Sandy, UT

When I went to www.Repeal116.com and saw the first bullet point was that this is contrary to the Republican platform, it reminded me why I'm embarrassed to be a Republican in Utah. On that basis alone I support keeping this bill intact. In national elections, I have always been a conservative Republican (I even ran for Congress in 1978 from the state of Washington). But after the debacle over public disclosure and the awarding of contracts to campaign contributors, I really really am still embarrassed to be a Republican in Utah.

M.Sanchez
Salt Lake City, Utah

The Utah county resolution passed!
I who was born in the United States, and as a proud involved Republican of proud Mexican heritage, I proudly stand with those people who worked so very hard to inform the delegates and make the passage of this resolution possible.
A special thanks to those who supported the resolution who are our nations newest citizens.

It is wrong to create a second class group of people as HB 116 seeks to implement. Many in the Hispanic community see this bill as an insult.
It is wrong to encourage human smuggling for cruel exploitation as this bill HB 116 is doing by providing false hope of a job.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

@Miss Piggie
1. The 4 immigration bills dubbed the Utah solution are constitutional. The US has power over naturalization/citizenship, not immigration. Prior to case law beginning in 1893, Immigration was and is a State Power. The constitution wasn't changed.

2. The Utah Compact states "Immigration is a federal policy issue between the U.S. government and other countries - not Utah and other countries." So the 4 bills violate The Utah Compact, not the constitution.

3. There are 4 bills. One that provides enforcement HB 479, one that provides for migrant workers HB 466, one that provides sponsoring HB 469, and one that provides a guest worker permit HB 116. HB 116 was modified to become a combination of others and could be deleted and the 3 bills remaining can function and many believe would work better.

4. With HB 469, you don't need HB 116. Someone here illegally could find a sponsor, go home and come back with permission.

5. If we are going to have a line for people to come to this country, you can't reward those that bypass the line. HB 116 violates that. HB 469 doesn't.

wargames83
PROVO, UT

@Miss Piggie
"We don't need you and don't want you"
Speak for yourself. Employment is not a zero sum game.

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