Postseason isn't lousy for former Utah Jazzmen


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  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 29, 2011 3:48 p.m.


    He can say anything he wants after the fact, but yes the Jazz made a big mistake by not offering him a long time before the free agency ever came up and he would have for sure signed for a lot less than Portland offered.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    April 28, 2011 10:06 p.m.


    Mathews said after he got signed to Portland that he'd have accepted any offer Utah gave, but the Jazz never acted. No way KOC would've shelled out $34 Mil, but I'm sure a lower price could have been offered.

    The problem was that Portland came before Jazz and they threw in a ridiculous offer. Jazz should've offered Mathews a contract at 12:01AM, but they didn't...

    Same thing happened with Korver, Jazz never acted.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 28, 2011 6:09 p.m.

    its not because they were great players...its that the system they went to is much better suited for their style of play...so if Korver Brewer and Boozer won a ring this year...its not because they are good...its because of the system they are in...Rose carried the bulls...

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    April 28, 2011 6:52 a.m.

    How about...Former Post-Season For Jazz?

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    April 27, 2011 2:44 p.m.

    Matthews - Blazers
    Boozer - Bulls
    Brewer - Bulls
    Korver -Bulls
    Carlos Arroyo - Celtics
    Sasha Pavoliv - Celtics
    Fisher - Lakers
    Stevenson - Mavs
    Kosta Koufos - Nuggets
    Eric Maynor - Thunder

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    April 27, 2011 7:46 a.m.

    I'm glad Chicago's doing well. I'm glad these players found a system that works for them and that they can contribute to. I don't get upset about pro sports. We pay athletes to "play." I mean we could call it "work" but....no. Its a game, its entertaining, but playoffs and championships are just more fun for me.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    April 26, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    Don't forget DeShawn Stevenson, the former Jazzman is playing lock down defense for the Mav's and is another player that has a chance to win a ring this year.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 25, 2011 10:58 p.m.


    Please explain to me how Mathews would have been a bargain. After the luxury tax hit on top of his salary he would have cost more than Lebron James and a bunch of other big time stars made.

    Next year they won't even miss him with Hayward at the 2.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    April 25, 2011 9:18 p.m.

    Yahoo Sports' Kelly Dwyer, on Carlos Boozer's performance in the playoffs:

    "If Chicago Bulls fans were leery about the signing of scoring forward Carlos Boozer heading into the playoffs, his four-game turn in the 2011 postseason has likely sent those dubious fans over the edge. Not only is the team's highest-paid player shooting just 37.5 percent against the Pacers thus far, but he's turning the ball over 3.5 times per game. These offensive marks go hand-in-hand with his typically terrible defense, which was at least then passable enough during the regular season as Boozer chalked up 17.5-point and 9.6-rebound averages in just 32 minutes of play.
    Worse? Boozer was signed to be the type of scorer that finishes plays that weren't drawn up for him in the paint with little muss and/or fuss, and yet Boozer has been terrible finishing around the rim. In short, the guy has been awful, on both ends."

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    April 25, 2011 7:21 p.m.

    RE: KD

    Making the playoffs is end all and be all,

    in fact most team make the playoffs, so no accomplihsment at all.

    jazz have made the playoffs a lot,

    the real goal, the real end is a championship,

    something the jazz failed at for the entire history of the franchise.

    The fact if the jazz never get the right set of players, and make use of the 2/3 they will never win a championship.

    Champinship teams have superstar/allstar 2's ans 3's:

    kobe, wade, allen, pierce, rip, dumars, magic, jordon, pippen, ainge, drexler, toney, etc. etc, etc.

    they don't rely on pure 1's and 4's.

    Build your team right and championships will come.

    Jazz have had too much sloan system players, too much wishful thinking,

    jazz have shown waitng years for your turn just doesn't work.

  • KD Salt Lake City, UT
    April 25, 2011 4:44 p.m.

    If the Jazz of two years ago were still intact and healthy, we would have made the playoffs. Unfortunately, other scouts and coaches around the league see the potential in the players we lost that the Jazz organization didn't. Granted money plays a big factor, but you have to keep key players that will get you to the playoffs.

  • jazzer St. George, UT
    April 25, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    Next Year Nets Lineup


    Hmmmm 4 out of 5 will be ex Jazz Players

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    April 25, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    Boozer and Brewer are both playing lesser roles. The reason the Jazz didn't compete for the title is because they had Brewer starting at SG when in reality he is a bench guy.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    April 24, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    Chicago isn't happy with Boozer. Brewer couldn't make a shot.

    Korver and Mathews is where KOC really messed up. Both were a bargain, both worked hard. I believe Mathews reached a ceiling. He's short for his position, but gives you good minutes.
    Korver could've been a Ray Allen or Hornaceck. I don't understand why they gave away one of the best 3 point shooters the league has seen. Maybe defense wise, he was a liability though....but that was manageable.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    April 24, 2011 8:22 p.m.


  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 24, 2011 8:18 p.m.


    I like your idea of playing Fes and Favors together but neither Hinrich or Crawford are any better than Harris. And the Jazz won't have their own pick next year unless they are in the lottery and the pick they have from the warriors will probably be 8th or later in the lottery so Harris and one of those two picks would be too much to give up for what they would get.

    They just need to draft a guard like Knight or Jimmer and let them back up Harris and learn for a year or two.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 24, 2011 6:27 p.m.

    @B Russ

    i think it would be nice if Fes and Favors played at one point...packing the paint...and have hayward defend the best wing...that would/could trigger a run...we need two scorers one preferable a 3pt shooter and the other a lightning fast guard...we could have a run and gun that plays solid efficient D...

    I'd trade Devin Harris and our next year's pick for Hinrich and Jamal Crawford....solid defensive PG that could defend the position and could shoot the three...and a 6th man that could rain 3 pointers...

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    April 24, 2011 5:06 p.m.


    crying over spilled milk

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    April 24, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    Kirilenko's contract prohibited the resigning of Matthews. Now they are both gone. No fear Hayward is here.

    Boozer can really rebound and score but has trouble scoring in the playoffs against better longer competition. Boozer was a slacker on defense. Since Favors came to town I haven't missed Boozer at all.

    I really hated to see Eric Maynor get away. I thought he showed alot of promise.

    You can see in the playoffs how important defense is in the paint. I hope we resign Fesenko (cheap) to give Favors a backup who can make a "big" difference defending the painted area.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    April 24, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    After watching Matthews' performance in this year's playoffs, I scratch my head and ask myself "How could this guy have gone undrafted two years ago??".

    Anyone care to speculate?

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    April 24, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    People tend to forget how drastically the Jazz's season turned around when they first traded for Korver, now we are right back where we were when we traded for him with teams giving absolutely no respect to the outside game and packing it in. It's no wonder we went into a skid.

    People need to forget about losing Mathews, Hayward will be a better #2 than him. The refs called rookie fouls on him every time he got near someone this past year and when he starts getting some respect from them we will find he is an outstanding defensive player. He did the best job of defending Kobe in that last game as any Jazz defender has in quite a few years.

    Favor's is going to be the man at the #2 next year and Milsap needs to develop a consistent 3 point shot and move to #3. With Ocur, AJ, Favors and Evans, and Milsap sliding over to the 3 at times this team is long enough and the Jazz need to draft people who can knock it down from outside.

  • KLHinCC Cedar City, UT
    April 24, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    Koufus Also along with Maynor

  • Daveman Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 24, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    Let's face it, most fans do not miss Boozer, though Korver was a fan (particularly of the female persuasion) favorite. Brewer is a solid player, but a wing player with an inconsistent shot has only so much utility. The giant faux pas by Jazz management is not sitting at Wes Matthew's door at 12:01 a.m. on the first day of free agency with a decent (6 for 25M or so) contract in hand. He would have signed it and the Jazz would not even be thinking of rebuilding right now. They would be a happy 3rd or 4th seed in the west playoffs and very competitive.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    April 24, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    Sloan had his good qualities, despite his brow-beating, grumbling approach to the game and players, though his approach wouldn't motivate me. The lose of Matthews was a huge misfortune. O'Conners needs to get out of the rebuilding mode, and start finding ways to keep and build players.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    April 24, 2011 8:44 a.m.

    Mr. O'Conner should be very proud of the Jazz record of 44/38 over the past 8 years since he has been in Utah.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    April 24, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    Gosh, I'm one of those who always used to bag on Carlos and say that I'd rather root for a losing team that didn't have him on it, than pull for a playoff team that he played for. Hmmm......he averaged 20 pts and almost 13 rebs for us in 44 games? Those are hardly "cancerous" stats. Those playoff teams seem to be having a lot of fun and I guess I COULD root for a losing team that doesn't have him as part of it, but my losing team is scattered around the globe, enjoying their vacations. It's dawning on me that I never really disliked Carlos Boozer all that much in the first place. I guess I should start being careful what I wish for.*

    *Note--my tongue is planted firmly in the side of my cheek as I write this.

  • md Smithfield, UT
    April 24, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    Eric Maynor?

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    April 24, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    Brewer, Matthews and Korver are all better than Bell or cj!

    O'Connor must be brilliant.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    April 24, 2011 6:41 a.m.

    Yes, rvalena2, and we can list name after name of other former Jazzmen who irritated Jerry Sloan, were traded away, then went on to bigger and better things.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 24, 2011 6:39 a.m.

    Boozer has always been a stud defensive rebounder and pretty good scorer. Having super energy guy and tough defender center Noah next to him might improve Boozer's chances of finally getting a ring. As for Korver and Brewer, they will always be handy guys to have on the bench, one solid on offensive, one solid on defense. Still, I say, go Memphis. Wouldn't THAT be something!

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 24, 2011 2:20 a.m.

    The irony of it all. Just imagine if Boozer, Korver and Brewer all get rings this year?