Utah Utes' sports move to Pac-12 is under way

Hill knows moving to the Pac-12 will take strategic planning


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  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 27, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    Good one...loved that come back to KamUte... and had a thought. Where are they going to seat all them USC fans when they do eventually come to Salt Lake... even when only 2 -3000 ute fans show up at their own stadium there still isn't going to be enough room for all of those USC fans. Maybe they'll have to rent the LES on an off weekend or a thursday night just to put on a show and to save face.

  • tcom2011 Fort Worth, TX
    April 27, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    I am just soooo glab to see a utah article actually get a few posts!!! I always check and they usually don't have very many.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 27, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    KamUte | 11:22 p.m. April 23, 2011
    South Jordan, UT
    Laramie exchanged for Spokane. Albuquerque for Corvallis. Ft. Collins for Boulder. Colorado Springs for Eugene. Las Vegas for Seatlle, San Diego for Los Angeles. Plus trips to Palo Alto, Berkely , Tuscon and Phoenix. Only Really cold games will be in Boulder and Salt Lake. Bring it on!

    Kam, you realize that to the PAC-10, Utah and Colorado just became Laramie?

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    April 26, 2011 10:13 p.m.

    It should read PAC 10-2

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    April 26, 2011 7:18 p.m.

    byu116970 41-10 on Sept 17? Maybe 41 Pts. for Utah but certainly not BYU. When was the last time BYU beat Utah by more than a touchdown (a very long time ago). Fact is only Utah has laid the beat down in this rivalry since the MWC era. If memory serves me correct it was a 24 beat down in both 2004 & 2008 on the way to BCS bowls. As past performance is the best predictor of future performance I don't think there is going to be any beat down of Utah by BYU; maybe a close game but thats about it.

  • jefferysl Huntsville, Alabama
    April 26, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    The Utes will be fine. USC has a lot of injuries, they really aren't that tough (UW has beaten them 2 years in a row). If Utah is to really make waves in the PAC, the offense will have to show up, though. I'm also thinking that Arizona is vulnerable, with a green O-line against Utah's very good defensive front 7. If Washington's QBs perform well, that will be a tough game, as will ASU and Oregon State. Anyway, I'll be following the Utes and Buffs closely. Can't wait until September...WOOOF!

  • byu116970 Tooele, Utah
    April 26, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    all i hear is ha ha were in a bcs league and your not. "be careful what you wish for" .utes nothing changes being the pac 12. you still will play in the vegas or poinsettia bowls except as the pac 12 invitee. just be happy you dont play oregon and stanford this year. maybee once in a ion when the rest of the league is down and you play the lower half of the teams just maybee you might get a sniff at a bcs bowl. utes you will have a bullseye on your back every week just to prove you belong. you better win early or in a few years or you will be a mid level or bottom feeder in your preciuos league with a 6-6, 5-7 or worse just try to fill your cardbaord box you call RES we all know utes never support losers. getting respect just because you in a bcs conference is laughable at best you actually have to be good just look at wsu duke etc etc. i look foreward to the ute disaster on sept 17 41-10 and a 5-7... g luck u will need it

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 25, 2011 11:26 p.m.

    Hey the way I look at it...USC will lose the appeals...most of the 5 and 4 star starters will transfer in 2012...leaving thier scrubs as the starters on Sept 10th...so Utah will... sort of be like their first inter squad practice team with no Rudy's...until they cans scrape up a few more 1 and 2 star players to form a permanent practice squad.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    April 25, 2011 10:35 p.m.

    Into LA chessman? You mean Watts. We'll do fine, thanks. Yes we will probably lose that game, but we'll be fine.

  • cheeseman187 Costa Mesa, CA
    April 25, 2011 8:37 p.m.

    Utah football being competitive in the PAC? Oh my goodness my side hurts from laughing. I can't wait till Utah rolls into LA for the PAC-12 opener and gets a rude awakening.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    April 25, 2011 7:22 p.m.

    Based upon the number of posts from Y fans on this story thread (and the overall lack of quality thereof) a better title for the story would be "BYU fan jealousy reaches an all time high with Utah leaving them behind in the Mid Majors."

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 25, 2011 6:40 p.m.


    Stop whining.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 25, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    "The obnoxious u fans lessons in humility, will be very painful for them, and a joy for the rest of us to behold."


    Is this what your honor code teaches you? If so, i can assume this is how you felt about davies.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    April 25, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    Utah could not win Championships in the MWC, why would they start now?

    And once the Tom Lovat years return, belonging to the Pac 10.02 won't do anything for the U. Ask Washington State.

    Enjoy your euphoria, blathering Utes, the light at the end of the tunnel is not Nirvana, it's a train headed your way and U have nowhere to go.

    The obnoxious u fans lessons in humility, will be very painful for them, and a joy for the rest of us to behold.

    Hello bottom-feeder obscurity.

    Go Wazzu-Utes!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 25, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    Wow, this discussion has fallen way below any reasonable level of discussion. Both sides have gone way too far. I'm done with this one.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    " Ibleedcrimson will have bled out and will have nothing to say."

    Na I'll still be here win or lose, with my Ute brethen and SnowSammygwhite and the seven trolls!!

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    April 25, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    "ESPNCult" -- Is this the high ground Ratman is advocating? Utes can be as abusive, rude, classless and hypocritical as they want but because I live in Provo I can't be anything but sunshine and lollipops (for which you will also deride me)?

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    April 25, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    Not to worry. When the Ute losses start mounting and it is looking like a bloodbath, Ibleedcrimson will have bled out and will have nothing to say. The average "ute fan" never backs up their bluster when the cleats hit the turf.

    BTW, Still wondering why the "mighty" Utes lost to that "mid-major" WAC team in the LV bowl. Is this the same team that is moving to the PAC 10.2? With skills like you showed in the predicted 34-24 win over BSU, the U will go far. Far into irrelevance that is.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    Sorry let me elaborate, I meant the cult of Troll, which you are the VP, sorry DuckHunter is the pres but you may have shot at the next opening!!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 25, 2011 11:19 a.m.

    It's nice to see what these fun discussions end up revealing isn't it?

    It's always more than a friendly rivalry when you start peeling the layers back on some of these 'fans'.

    ESPNCult channel... that's a classic. Use it often will you?

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    "Hawaii game will be on ESPN"

    When did ESPN and the ESPNCult channel?

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    "but we know you'll be watching it anyway."

    yeah I might as long as there's nothing good on QVC or CSPAN like the rest of the "real" world.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 25, 2011 11:01 a.m.


    Did you get caught trying to ride the high road of religion? Exposed by the duckmeister. ha ha

    @ bleedingprofusely

    Hawaii game will be on ESPN. Didn't you get that Mtn. contract signed yet?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 25, 2011 10:59 a.m.


    It has already been announced the BYU/Hawaii game will be on ESPN. Regardless utah will not be playing in the pac10 championship game this year so there is no reason to trouble yourself over it. I have no doubt you will be watching the BYU/Hawaii game along with wedgie, howie, christina b, pebbles, vegasute, utes32......


    Of course BYU doesn't need you for ratings, there will already be at least a few million watching, but we know you'll be watching it anyway. You sure won't have any other game to watch that day.


  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 25, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    "How will we know, does BYUTV release thier ratings? If they did I'm sure it would include 10 or 15 million dead people watching...

    I'm sure no ratings will ever be reported only made up to be 10 times bigger than what they actually are.... similar to the ESPN deal.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2011 10:45 a.m.

    "Simple answer... the one that's on HD and has a greater fan-base."

    How will we know, does BYUTV release thier ratings? If they did I'm sure it would include 10 or 15 million dead people watching...

  • roughd Draper, UT
    April 25, 2011 10:45 a.m.

    The article likens this move to the recent additions to the Big Least and Acc. (does that stand for football Accessories?), but I would say that its bigger than those. Big Least and Acc. are basketball conferences, they've added good football schools over the years, and those schools have underperformed. In football you really have to talk about the Big 4, and the Utes are the only non-AQ to ever join one of those!

    Also, keep hearing about us being 2nd choice to Texas. DUH! EVERY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY WOULD BE 2ND CHOICE AFTER TEXAS!!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 25, 2011 10:35 a.m.


    Sp let's have a look at the comments on the article about the BYU volleyball team lsoing. Keep in mind these are all in the 1st 7 commetns on the article.

    2nd post of the article) Wedgie - "UC-Santa Barbara (14-14)? LOL!"

    3rd post of the article) Howie - "Always fun to see Cougars lose."

    And this classy little gem on the 7th post from none other than an obvious hypocrite:

    Ratman - "So much for the big article in yesterday's paper....."

    So have any non mormons that you are in the process of enacting "missionary efforts" on read your comments and "been curtailed" by your obvious low class hypocrisy and hate? What about those from wedgie and howie? Or do thos not count because they choose to be "fans" of a different school?

    Congratulations on identifying yourself as the biggest hypocrite on this site other than pebbles.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 25, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    Well since the DNews has removed my previous post to which ratman has replied and refuses to publish any one of my benign replies to his use of hypocritical religious language I'll take a stab at this simple post.

    @ ute4ever...

    "I like Utah's chances in the PAC12 South. Imagine a championship game in SLC in December...on the same day BYU is playing a road game in Hawaii. Which one will draw the state-wide interest???"

    Simple answer... the one that's on HD and has a greater fan-base.

    So your predicting a championship this first season. Outstanding. I'll "mark it down". Keep singing... "High Hopes".

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    April 25, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    CougFannin says that Utah almost lost to the worst BYU team since the Crowton years. Isn't this year's team basically the same team as last year? I don't recall many graduates from last year. If so, how is it that all these BYU fans are so confident that BYU will dominate their schedule and, at the same time, be so confident that Utah will fail miserably. There are plenty of national, unbiased (at least less biased than Cougar fans), people out there that have predicted Utah to do well. Whenever a Cougar fan proclaims Utah will be going 5-7 or whatever....it just screams to the world "I'm jealous".

    I like Utah's chances in the PAC12 South. Imagine a championship game in SLC in December...on the same day BYU is playing a road game in Hawaii. Which one will draw the state-wide interest???

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 25, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    Andy Tomasso and all the other BYU fans who have problems with us Utes celebrating our success,

    We're not asking you to cheer for our team. By all means keep cheering for yours. But if you really want to represent your school and your Church well, let us have our celebration and enjoy the rewards our teams have earned without all this negativity. There is no point arguing about who started the put downs. There is plenty of blame on both sides. But it is safe to say you do far more harm than good when you tear down your opponent in an effort to build yourself up. That's called poor sportsmanship and I thought BYU used to stand firmly against that. I know I do personally. Go Utes!!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 25, 2011 8:17 a.m.

    "you're a consolation prize and should call texas and thank them everyday"

    Andy tomatos,

    No. It is the Y who should be calling Texas ( and the BIG12) everyday, begging, pleading for a life line.

    I'm sure Holmoe has done everthing he can think of.....the big12 just isn't interested.

  • Andy Tomasso Layton, UT
    April 25, 2011 8:07 a.m.

    I can admit being a byu fan that I'm jealous the U is in the pac 10. that being said its annoying the way the ute fans beat on their chests, as if they where the school picked before texas. you weren't, you're a consolation prize and should call texas and thank them everyday. really if byu wasn't a church owned school, and had the liberal standards that fit the pac 10 image everybody knows it would be BYU picked and not the U. so good luck in the pac utah, I'm still cheering for the Y.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 25, 2011 5:22 a.m.


    It got BYU in last year, so I think Utah will be just fine

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    April 25, 2011 1:12 a.m.

    "Whenever it was Pac-10 expansion, Utah was always the school that they talked about," BYU AD Tom Holmoe said. "It would always frustrate the BYU fans."

  • Ratman Salt Lake City, UT
    April 24, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    sammyg, I'll tell why my comments are not "over the top," as you say. Many non-LDS read this and other boards frequented also by BYU fans who are presumably LDS. To put it in the nicest terms possible, on this board and others, many postings by presumably LDS people can be described as unkind. I have friends who have lost any interest they might otherwise have had in the LDS church due to such words. My missionary efforts have been curtailed by other LDS people. You say such words are harmless. I say they are not, and some day we will have to answer for everything we say. That has been my point in all my postings today. If you believe for one moment that church leaders in charge of BYU will continue to allow such behavior for the sake of athletics, then you would do well to rethink your position.

    Today I would rather have put more positive emphasis on what is, after all, a Utah article. I wish the athletic department and its teams every success in the Conference of Champions. As the article says, it will be a challenge, but surely well worth it.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 24, 2011 11:05 p.m.

    It'll be interesting to see if the Ute's 6-6 record will get them into a bowl game next season.

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    April 24, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    This is a big move for Utah, just as independence is a big move for BYU. I hope the best for Utah as a BYU fan. I want Kyle to be successful. There will be growing pains for both schools. If Utah fans have so much disdain for BYU, why do we play? It is one of the the top 3 or 4 rivalries in the country. We both need it. This rivalry is as important as your conference affiliation. You don't think so, lets stop all of the games and see what happens. Personally, I would like to see all games stopped for several years.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 24, 2011 9:29 p.m.


    You've spent too much time believing your fellow Cougar fans regarding how the Utes are doing in other sports. Right now we are doing very well in softball and baseball and just beat the Cougars in Women's Tennis. In fact, our Women's Tennis team is ranked 52nd in the country. We also beat your Cougars in Women's Basketball on our way to the MWC tournament title.

    As far as football goes, we beat both BYU and San Diego State. So how do you justify your claim we got out played? As I have looked at the stats for those games they were pretty even and the scores revealed that.

    I don't think any serious Ute fans expect us to lead the league in any sports right off the bat. Chris Hill said that as well, but we are currently very competitive and even better than BYU in several sports.

    We are aware there are BYU fans who do wish us ill will, so don't try to say there aren't. They show up on these comment boards all the time. Even you choose not to give us credit for what we have accomplished.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    April 24, 2011 9:10 p.m.

    You coug fans predicting a 5-7 record for the 2011 Utes forgot to tell us to "mark it down." AQ wins for the cougs. Please. Let us know when you catch up with the Utes and Fresno State on that one.

    And while it's early too make final predictions, folks should know Oregon State will not be very good this upcoming year. Arizona State should be pretty tough.

    And the Utes? I like their chances.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    April 24, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    Ohio State President Gordon Gee:

    Phi Kap and a Utah Man.

    Wish we could get him to be our next president, alas, I don't know that our beloved University of Utah is on his list after stints as Chancellor at Brown and Vanderbilt.

  • PAC 12 loves U Sandy, Utah
    April 24, 2011 7:34 p.m.

    To all Utah fans! Just ignore these why? fans. They are jealous of the Utah joining the Pac 12. They won't admit it! but deep down they know Utah is in a better position in athletics. byu is Utah's little brother and they always will be. Just ignore them because they are still a mid-major school or as the Ohio State President said "The little sisters of the poor" Go Utes!!!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 24, 2011 7:22 p.m.

    I don't think any Coug fans wish ill will on the Utes, I think they're just looking at reality. Face it, the Utes have been competitive in Football only the last 10 years. And they way they finished last year was dreadful. In addition to their losses, they got outplayed by the Aztecs and the worst Cougar team since the Crowton era. They have had some good basketball years, but the program is in a death spiral lately with no hope on the horizon. Women's gymnastics? - Ok I'll give you that one. But the rest of the sports are non-existant in SLC.

    Black Shirts - I have to disagree on your forecast. I think the Utes will beat UCLA, but I think they'll lose to Washington. I agree with your overall 5 - 7 forecast.

    But in the end, I'm very happy that the Utes are going to the PAC12, because that will be one more AQ win for the Cougs.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 24, 2011 6:40 p.m.

    It's an exciting time to be a Ute fan and I'm looking forward to all the new opponents and higher level of competition. I'm also excited for the improvements in all areas academic and sports.

  • carver Enterprise, UT
    April 24, 2011 6:38 p.m.

    I'am a Utah resident and would like to see Utah do well in the Pac-12 but I really wonder how well they can recrute against the other Pac schools. It seems to me that if a kid is going to play in the Pac-12, the last two places he would want to locate is Utah and Colorado. I hope it works for at least the Utes.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 24, 2011 6:19 p.m.


    I like your predictions


    You're right, keeping up with the Joneses is tough to do, and frankly Utah can't do it. Utah will never have the brand of USC, or the money of Niketown. Utah still has to "Out Utah" those guys. The extra money will help Utah get comparable facilities, and Pac-12 caliber athletes, but a flood top 50 recruits will not be flowing in. Utah is still going to have to find potential and coach it up, but the starting point will be much higher.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    April 24, 2011 5:27 p.m.




  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    April 24, 2011 5:20 p.m.

    Good Luck Utah, Bon Voyage, Adios, Ciao, See ya. It was sad to see you default into the PAC 12, but hey you're there make the most of it. Make sure you send Texas a thank you note.

  • Ratman Salt Lake City, UT
    April 24, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    Tyler McArthur and aggieblue, BYU fans are supposed to hold themselves to a higher standard. Correct? So how do a few unkind remarks by Utah fans ever justify bad behavior by your fans? What ever happened to "turn the other cheek?" How do ill feelings generated and perpetrated by BYU fans towards those you consider to be on a lower spiritual plane further the cause of the LDS missionary effort? Yes, much more is expected of YOU. Tyler, you yourself put BYU supporters on that pedestal--how is calling out their bad behavior juvenile? Methinks it is you that needs to grow up.

  • Steve Jensen Herriman, UT
    April 24, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    2011 The year Utah football win & loses -
    Montana State = Win 1-0
    at USC = Lose 1-1
    at BYU = Lose 1-2
    Washington = Win 2-2
    Arizona State = Win 3-2
    at Pittsburgh = Lose 3-3
    at California = Win 4-3
    Oregon State = Win, 5-3
    at Arizona = Lose, 5-4
    UCLA = Win, 6-4
    at Washington State = Win, 7-4
    Colorado = Win, 8-4

    The Utes go 8-4, and have a good season that is something to build on. They finish 5th in the Pac-12 and improve the next season.
    - From a Utah & BYU Fan -

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    April 24, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    Weird that Hill talked about having great coaches. Other than Whittingham and Marsden, I don't know who's great. Coach K.2 hasn't proved himself, and it will be tough to do so. As far as the other coaches, I'd be upset about the budget distribution plan Hill is putting forth-ie everything to FB and gymnastics. Shouldn't everything increase relative to current distribution with more revenue coming in? I'd also be worried for my job the way Hill talks.

  • Tyler McArthur South Jordan, UT
    April 24, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    There have been a lot of comments today about BYU fans being un-christlike. I guess that's one of the things we have to put up with going to a church-owned university. We definitely are put on a moral pedestal in Provo, whether we like it or not, and I would hope that our behaviour reflects our values.

    However, to point that out is a little juvenile.

    Best of luck.

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    April 24, 2011 2:20 p.m.

    It's funny that a lot of fans of the team in Provo are still trying to rub in the fact that the PAC wanted Texas more.

    So what, the PAC wanted Texas more than Utah. It doesn't really matter now does it? The Utes are in!

    But what does matter is the PAC never wanted BYU at all, ever.

  • aggieblue Saint George, UT
    April 24, 2011 2:05 p.m.


    You some the ute position, we are there and you aren't. Win some games, because then the loss to the Y will mean more. Also, you schedule Montana State, put the aggies on your list. Of course any of the sub par games have to be on your home field. You will draw more with the aggies than you will with any of the pac 10 teams. Come on do it, instead of Idaho, Montana State etc.

    Ratman: check the Y articles and see who generally is the first post, HH, HC, or Chris B. and what they post. So jealous of the Y and so unsure of the U.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    April 24, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    So Chris Hill now refers to MWC as a mid-major less than a year after her fought to get this conference into the BCS. Shows he never really believed in the MWC to begin with. At least we finally know how he never believed in the MWC, thus his own school. Thanks for that clarification.

  • KNM West Jordan, UT
    April 24, 2011 1:22 p.m.

    "Black Shirts"
    hahahaha bitter much? :) have fun with all those teams in Idaho.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 24, 2011 12:28 p.m.

    Re: I still can't say it

    Black shirts is the "Fresh Prince" of the message boards. His first episodes weren't that good, and neither are the reruns.

  • Kiboo West Jordan, Utah
    April 24, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    "The Utes were invited to join the Pac-12 after the league was rebuffed in expansion efforts with Texas and other Big 12 schools."

    We know, we know - but at least we are there! Better to be the last one invited than not invited at all! Give us a few years to show our athletic prowess and before long we will be a regular in the BCS! Besides, most of the teams in the PAC12 are really not that strong.

    The Utes will prove that they belong!

  • Ratman Salt Lake City, UT
    April 24, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    C,mon, BYU trolls. It's Easter Sunday. Even today, can't you take a break from your hating on a Utah article? What do you think LDS church leaders (or Jesus) would think of your posts here? What kind of messages are you sending?

  • Disappointing Orem, UT
    April 24, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    So pumped!!!

    I get the feeling the way the offense is looking it could be a tough year, but d looks solid and if wynn recovers from his shoulder and plays solid we should be all right! Anything 8-4 and better this year would be solid!

    I love all the byu hate!

    Hope you enjoy ucf, utah state, san jose state, idaho state, idaho and new mexico state! Atleast you got one legit team on your home schedule next year....UTAH!!!

    As for us, can't wait for washington, asu, oregon state, ucla, and colorado!

  • Slim Shady 801 Bluffdale, UT
    April 24, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    "Be careful what ya wish for".......All this talk about the Pac 10 not being as strong as a conference as the MWC, etc. NOW you have to put up or shut up. Now you will find out how good the Pac 10 is. Oh yeah, most of the good seniors in FB and BB leave early, but Utah will have to improve their recruiting. Look for less and less Utah HS players on their rosters and more Cali kids and Texas kids. Finally the people of Utah will realize that you have to play all 12 weeks, not just 3-4 and have 7-8 cupcakes. And baseball, hahahahah....

  • Coug Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 24, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    "Keeping up with the Joneses" is a tough cycle to get caught up in. Throwing more money at something doesn't necessarily improve it. UCLA, ASU, UA, UW, WSU, are just a few schools, who've been the recipients of PAC 10 money for years, yet routinely get beat by schools with 1/20 the resources (mid-major programs).

    The Federal Government thinks that throwing money on a situation will cure it. Our nation is now trillions of dollars in debt, with many solutions still unrealized. As a tax payer, the spending race makes me sick. I'm more impressed when people can do more, with less.

    I wish the University of Utah the best in their new endeavors. These are exciting times for their fan base. I hope it all works out.

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    April 24, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    @Black Shirts

    Ha ha, you're cutting and pasting your posts from past articles about the Utes success. Very creative!

    You're basically just like Bronco's low-powered offense. You know exactly what to expect on every play and just where to exploit the weaknesses -- which leads to events like blocked field goals.


  • wardu Fallon, NV
    April 24, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    We're not going in as a little brother," Hill said. True, more like red-headed stepchild. We will be out here watching to see how far U fall into PAC 10.2 irrelevance. It should be entertaining.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    April 24, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    I don't understand why the BYU fans such as @Where's Stockton wish ill will on the Utes. They will say that it is the Ute fans that started the whole idea of hate. Reminds me of a something that someone once said whilst perched upon a mount in Judea about turning the other cheek and loving thy enemy. Doesn't seem that those words resonate with the BYU faithful as they only wish pain and failure upon their enemy. Christ is Love. If you preach it, live it. Good luck to BYU, and good luck to our Utes.

  • Black Shirts South Jordan, UT
    April 24, 2011 7:33 a.m.

    Wait a minute! There must be a mistake. The Utah Utes are not rank #1, but they're in the PAC12. I'm sure they'll fix this and Utah will be #1 tomorrow. I hear the Running Ute's will be rank #1 also. Why are the Ute's practicing? It's just practice, we are talking practice. The new PAC12 champs dont need to practice.

  • Black Shirts South Jordan, UT
    April 24, 2011 7:32 a.m.

    Here is what you win:

    2011 The year Utah football becomes Utah basketball. Life couldn't be better!

    MT Montana State = Win 1-0 (Good Job Wynn 4 int and he hates BYU fans also)

    at USC = LOSE 1-1 (Crack!)

    at BYU = LOSE 1-2 (BYU by 20, Ute fans begin to jump ship)

    Washington = WIN 2-2 (Maybe)

    Arizona State = LOSE 2-3 (Only 5000 tickets sold)

    at Pittsburgh = LOSE 2-4 (Talk radio is quiet, Ute fans are burning everything red)

    at California = LOSE 2-5 (Utah football has become Utah basketball, terrible)

    Oregon State = WIN 3-5 (Every dog gets a bone)

    at Arizona = LOSE 3-6 (Back to normal)

    UCLA = LOSE 3-7 (Recruits are not opening Ute mail)

    at Washington State = WIN 4-7 (Wash St = Idaho St)

    Colorado = WIN 5-7 (Just being nice here)

    I just couldn't help myself.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    April 24, 2011 7:22 a.m.

    A serious question: What does being a "research" university have to do with football?

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 24, 2011 5:57 a.m.

    @Society's Maniacal Child
    You're joking right??? PAC=the original 8 team conference name before Arizona and Arizona State...Must have been before you were born if you honestly didn't know that.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 24, 2011 5:49 a.m.

    Yeah... Enjoy... The Big Reality will hit Sept 10th and continue from there... But hey...the Montana State game should be a nice experience. University of Utah Doormats will be very popular items in all those places in the PAC. Especially on rainy and muddy days. Wonder who has the Marketing rights???

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 24, 2011 4:56 a.m.

    I love that PAC-12 logo! Finally, I'll get a chance to see the Utes on TV more than twice during the regular season.

    I liked the Mountain West Conference but hated the MTN TV contract. Thank goodness Ute fans don't have to deal with that any more.

  • MenaceToSociety Draper, UT
    April 24, 2011 1:51 a.m.

    I'm pumped for the move to the Pac 12. But I have one question: What's the PAC? Never heard of a conference called the PAC.

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    April 24, 2011 1:28 a.m.

    Bothers me that Chris Hill comes up with a "mid-major" comment, when it was only months ago Utah was claiming the MWC should be in the "elite"!!! Cheap talk!!

    Go ahead, compare Larmie to Spokane (I'll take clear lakes and streams anyday in Wyoming as long I don't see a Utah plate stinking the place up). Albuquerque ror Corvalis, Las Vegas for Los Angeles, Ft. Collins for Phoenix etc....

    Basement dwellers comin' your way at a stadium near you!!

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    April 24, 2011 1:18 a.m.

    Two words: Peter Principle.

  • PAC 12 loves U Sandy, Utah
    April 24, 2011 12:46 a.m.

    What a great article! I'm so excited for the University of Utah to be a part of a great conference and compete against great schools every year. Chris Hill has done a fantastic job! Keep up the good work!

    Go Utes!!!!

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    April 24, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    You are aware that Spokane is not on the PAC-Map right? I think you meant to say Pullman. Where Washington State is located? Come on brother, you only have 68 days to learn your PACography. This article is the first strike to the nail that is being hammered home declaring the reality of this situation. So excited!

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 24, 2011 12:18 a.m.


    Lofty ambitions!! Years of effort by so many!! Success!!!!

    The future is built upon realistic expectations, a solid plan, and all within balanced monetary restraints. (If only our government could do the same!!!!)

    The Conference of Champions is more than just a slogan!! In the so called Olympic sports the conference is unequalled. Do I, or any reasonable Ute fan, believe we will be able to challenge in the near future in these events? No. But can you imagine, we will now be able to see Olympic athletes competing here is Salt Lake on regular basis. And the University of Utah athletes will be competing against the best!!!! (This is in no way implying that the University of Utah will not be competitive in many sports from day one!!!)

    Off the sports page, the University, the city, and the state will receive recognition and benefits which we can hardly imagine. A research university in one of the most highly acclaimed educational conferences!!!

    As students, alumni and fans let us express are thanks to all responsible and pledge our support in the future. AND GO UTES!!!

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    April 24, 2011 12:18 a.m.

    Gag. How about we focus on the Utes. That's what this story is about. Leave the rest to their homers.

    Utah Man Sir!

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    April 23, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    @I Still Can't Say It: Nope, it's not bigger than 1984, no one is depressed, and you aren't invited to the water slide event. It's for the BIG boys.

    Seriously, enjoy the PAC 12. Hope it goes well for you in every respect.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    April 23, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    Laramie exchanged for Spokane. Albuquerque for Corvallis. Ft. Collins for Boulder. Colorado Springs for Eugene. Las Vegas for Seatlle, San Diego for Los Angeles. Plus trips to Palo Alto, Berkely , Tuscon and Phoenix. Only Really cold games will be in Boulder and Salt Lake. Bring it on!

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    April 23, 2011 11:11 p.m.

    Wow, Utah's move to the PAC is the biggest single event in the history of college sports in the state. Bigger than the original BCS busters, and yep, bigger than 1984.

    This has to sting a bit for the team in Provo and its fans. I'm thinking things will be so depressed in Utah County next football season, a certain water slide event will be cancelled.

  • The NIT Draper, UT
    April 23, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    How exciting! I've renewed my season football tickets and I am anxiously awaiting September 1. We're traveling to Los Angeles for the USC game and we will also probably go to the Arizona road game. I'm also hopeful that basketball can be more fun and exciting and then I'll be there again also. There's just two words - GO UTES!!

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    April 23, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    68 days and counting...
    Been waiting for this day for a long time!