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Published: Friday, April 22 2011 12:24 a.m. MDT

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hubbardesquire
Alabaster, Alabama

I know one thing, the U. S. congressional delegation in Washington from Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, and Kentucky will never agree to accept any kind of "de facto" amnesty like the amnesty Utah so proudly offers to illegals against the wishes of the vast majority of Utahns and LDS Church members.

No One Of Consequence
West Jordan, UT

Anything that encourages people to come to our country where they can be exploited working for substandard wages while having no possibility of citizenship is not in the best interest of the people it is supposedly created to help. When our business and government leaders say we need these people to come here and be a subservient underclass, it differs only by degree from the inhumanity of importing slaves in our dark and distant past. These 'essential' workers are not owned by others but they don't own themselves either because they have to work under someone else's identity.

Instead of importing other nations' poverty to hold down wages here we need to export our ideals of freedom and morality-based capitalism to those other countries. Lift your fellow man where he is instead of bringing him here to exploit his willingness to work for your own greed.

Gentile
brookings, SD

Utah actually showed courage. A little wisdom. This is why the leg. makes the news. The reactions are more telling than the legislation.

RichardB
Murray, UT

"The commandment to 'love thy neighbor.' should be a strengthening of the church policy for people to come here legally, to not take jobs that don't belong to them, or to use another persons id to find work. If they "loved thy neighbor" we would not have this problem. Is rewarding illegal behavior love?

"The importance of keeping families intact." does this just relate to people who break one set of laws, or to all law breakers who may be separated from their families for what they did? Applying this to just immigration lawbreaking is wrong. It's an attempt to justify illegal behavior.

I don't see compassion here. Without requiring all men to be bound to sustain and uphold the respective governments in which they reside, we are showing just the opposite. Allowing someone to suffer their own consequences is an act of love, and it shows true compassion.

BYU Alum
Cedar Hills, UT

This goes across party lines. I am a Democrat and my wife a Republican. No amnesty! No more cutting in line in front of legal immigrants. No more taking jobs from US citizens. No more free medical care at my expense. No more lowered tuition and taking slots at state universities. No more Mexican gang violence. No more ranchers killed in Arizona. No more car accidents with uninsured aliens...

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

Wasn't it conservative icon Ron Reagan who granted amnesty to over 3 million illegals in 1986? Does this mean that Reagan is now too liberal to be a Republican?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

BO typical "leadership" style is once again on display. He does nothing but meet with interested parties and tells them to go do something. He promised immigration reform, but has done NOTHING towards immigration reform. BO lied. In this case, though, I'm glad he lied. I'm sure his "reform" would be amnesty.

Doug10
Roosevelt, UT

I am betting Herbert will not want the feds to waste time throwing rocks at this bill. It would make this bill and the other insidious bill he passed seem like he did not know what he was doing.

If Herbert wants immigration in Utah there are literally thousands on legal waiting lists who are keeping the rules USA outlined in order for them to come here.

Those illegals here did not like our law so they broke it. Herbert did not like our law so he passed an illegal law.

What is the problem? Is the law broke or is it too hard for the governor and illegals to keep?

Ok
Salt Lake City, Utah

Just start by enforcing the laws we already have in place. Send illegals home. Welcome legal immigrants. And plug that hole in our southern border.

jim l
West Jordan, UT

The american people have been sold out again.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

Is the LDS Church trying to outflank Bishop Wester?
Why would they throw their hat in the ring on this issue.
Perhaps Mortensen is correct; they are protecting their interests in Mexico.
It seems that this is a strange issue for the Church. With Prop 8 there were letters to leaders, Ensign articles, even mention of it in Conference.
Why the silence on the illegal alien issue?

The Reader
Layton, UT

Utah compact - A great idea. Some may not want to show compassion, but it is the Christlike thing to do. If I was living in Mexico and had a family to support - I would have crossed the border into the United States to feed my family.

It is dishonest to expect others to say "It is against the law to cross the border without receiving permission form the Republicans, so I will not do that. I will let my children go hungry."

Of course most would cross the border to support their family!

The United States has long been the gathering place for the poor, downtrodden masses to come and make a better life for themselves and their families.

That is what has made our country great!

JP71
Ogden, UT

I have not always been supportive of some sort of work permit but I have come to understand that there is a human face to immigration. Many say the law is the law no if, and, or buts. But, if the law was changed I believe many of these same people would still oppose letting in new immigrants. From the beginning in the U.S. there have been groups of people opposed to any type of immigration no matter what the circumstances. We have a great nation and it is our duty to have reasonable compassion on others.

I am a fourth generation immigrant from England, and I support this law.

CJ
Murray, UT

We can all be so proud of BH116, especially when you realize that it was rammed through by Chamber of Commmerce Republicans who own hotels, dairy farms, etc.
The basis for this wasn't phony "compassion" but rather the desire to perpetuate the "plantation philosophy" of "we need the slaves to pick the cotton". The Utah CON PACT is nothing but an unholy alliance of churches and businesses who benefit from exploiting illegals and now want to make sure they can continue on with it under the cloak of "compassion". Its always nice to profit and then pat yourself on the back for your humanitarianism. All principles of fairness and the rule of law have now gone right out the window in favor of the desire to exploit a vulnerable class of people who have no right to even be here in the first place. Money is a great motivator, you can even get churches to go against their own previously stated principles if the price is right.

Mc
West Jordan, UT

Things I like about this law:

-The illegal immigrants affected will not be put on a path to citizenship. They will just be allowed to work here. To me, amnesty is when you just hand them citizenship.

-It makes it harder to be here illegally if they haven't paid the fine and gone through the process required to work here legally.

-The process will make it possible for them to pay taxes, have auto and health insurance, and be a contributing part of the system without giving them citizenship.

Things I don't like:

-Only illegals qualify for the work permit. If you're here legally on a student visa, you don't qualify. You would have to overstay your visa and become illegal to get a work permit.

-It allows too many relatives to come here with one illegal that qualifies. It should only be immediate family, not every conceivable distant relative.

-It is unfair to those who have waited to come legally. The process needs to be easier for them. There should be some benefit to obeying the law!

While it isn't perfect, I'm interested in seeing how Washington responds. They need a push!

Emophiliac
Vernal, UT

I gave Arizona $100 to support their laws. I would easily give a Utah organization $500 or more to overturn HB116 (and a few other bills that passed this term) either by getting them repealed in the special session, by supporting a class-action lawsuit against Utah by unemployed Utahns, or by getting a proposition on the next ballot that repeals those laws. I didn't bother signing the petition against HB116 because there is no clear indication it will have any effect in overturning these bills. Someone with legal backing needs to attack these bills.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

I really am tired of hearing the old refrain from the boo hoos that our immigration system is broken It is not broken it is unenforced. Pure and simple. The libs want an amnesty for votes and the Repubs want one for cheap labor. The church needs access to the Latin Countries for missionary work. There you go.

SLars
Provo, UT

There are millions of people each year that come here legally for green cards and work visas. Those who choose to come here illegally make the choice not to wait in line like everyone else around the world. And Mexico has the 12th best economy in the world. Let's stop making excuses for the lawbreaking, shall we?

The Utah compact puts all the responsibility on America's citizens, and none on those who broke our laws. They also have to be compassionate, they need to love thy neighbor, and they need to make decisions to keep their family together.

We are fighting for the survival of the American family, for every person here illegally that is working in the non agriculture fields, an American is out of work. Where is the compassion from the lawbreakers and the businessmen that hire them?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

If Utah / America doesn't get serious about STOPPING illegal immigration and creating a more secure border the long term economic and social effects will be grim. Someone has to pay for all the free emergency room care that illegals get as well as food stamps and other perks not to mention the glut of jobs that illegals take from legal citizens. In todays economy it is just plain wrong to suggest that illegals take the jobs that legal citizens don't want. This is just dumb. The reason illegals get the jobs is because employers can pay less to hire illegals which is great until you consider the unemployment rate in the US - nearly 10%. Now throw in all the violent crime brought to Utah / US by illegal Hispanics and the human and economic costs are staggering. There is nothing humain or right about turning your head while your neighbors home / business is robbed or bullets fly through the air in your neighborhood along with the flood of drugs as well. Time to take care of our own!! One thing is for sure ... Obama won't do it!!

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

While we're endorsing this double standard, would you PLEASE allow the British Saints to drink tea? After all, it is so hard to keep ALL of the commandments.

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