Hedgehog is right about the general state of PAC-12 offenses this time of year.
Washington's defense was dominant as well...which was a little unsettling in
that we're trying to find out who takes Jake Locker's spot. Duckhunter's last
post was an inciteful one about tight ends and backs catching out of the
backfield in a WCO. Does Utah have a serviceable Tight End?
The basic problem with Utah's new offensive scheme is the Utes are relying on
too very mediocre backups and an injured starting QB who was only average when
he was healthy.
@utesovertideYou are the 1st person I have talked to that went that
was at all optimistic about it. I'll take your word for it that they were able
to do some good things and maybe it isn't dire. The guys I coach
baseball with are ute fans and they went and they were not very happy with what
they saw. They felt the line was not well suited to the scheme and that the lack
of any good TE's plus rb's that struggled to catch passes out of the backfield
did not lend themselves to a WCO. Any BYU fan can tell you that the WCO,
especially Chows schemes, require a good TE, usually a couple of them, and rb's
that can catch passes coming out of the backfield. I am sure the rb's can
improve on that skill but the lack of some good TE's isn't a good thing. That is
a position they will need to recruit better in the future.I actually
hope they do well for the good ute fans I know but I have a hard time hoping
anything good happens for wedgie.
@DuckhunterI wouldn't call the offense I saw on Saturday
"awful". Sure, it wasn't stellar. However, many of the Pro scheme
plays worked, making the RB's look good. Many of the downfield run plays went
for 5 yards or more. Half of the good passes were dropped, but the play itself
worked and with some starting receivers in there that will change. The plays
that looked bad were the spread plays. That contrast, I am sure, will give Norm
Chow more to work with as he and Whittingham try to help the players see that
the West Coast offense will work.I am concerned about the offense
(the D looks just fine, and a bit better than last year, especially in the
secondary) just like anyone else. But if anyone can put together an offensive
team in the next 4 months its the Whit, Chow, Davis, Johnson combination.
@wedgieWhy does it matter what the other teams did? All that matters
here is how the utes offense did. I'll concede that defenses are generally ahead
of offense in spring ball but that doesn't mean the offenses are completely
inept. utah's offense was aweful and couldn't really do anything. You can put on
a brave face and try to pretend everything is fine but you know it isn't and I
know you know it. They might have been ok going against mwc defenses
since those are notoriously bad but the main thing that sets the pac10 above
conferences like the mwc besides depth is they have better defense to to bottom.
But hey keep telling yourself its all going to be ok because one thing is for
sure, we'll find out this fall.
" But of course there is no way to discount last Monday's performance when
they all played and still didn't do anything"ducky,I'm assuming you didn't read the ESPN blog concerning this weekends
scrimmages. If you did, you'd realize that most in not all PAC12 teams played
thier starting QB and most of the starting offensive units. Again, defense
dominated in every game....if you want to use the utes prior scrimmage as your
benchmark so be it. Thanks again for your daily dire, gloom and doom
fixation on the Utes.
No you wouldn't wedgie. If that had happened you would try to spin it the other
way.But it is true Whittingham didn't play most of his main
offensive players, although I think the reason is he knows they wouldn't have
done any better than those that did play and doesn't want wide spread panic from
the fanbase. So I'll go along with you and discount yesterdays performance. But
of course there is no way to discount last Monday's performance when they all
played and still didn't do anything. Whittingham himself said that scrimmage was
the "most important of the spring" so that is probably the one we
should look at for signs of how the offense is coming along. Based on that
"most important" scrimmage it is obvious that the offense is not very
good at this point. I have no doubt they will improve by the time the season
starts but if I was a utah fan I would be concerned about it just like I, and
most BYU fans, were concerned about BYU's offense last year. I guess we'll see
what happens this fall.
I would suggest all UofU naysayers check out Ted Miller's ESPN blog. He lists
all PAC12 scrimmage results this past weekend.Do you see a common
theme?All offenses struggled to score points and the defense's
dominated. I would be much more worried if the Utah offense had scored at will.
"Whittingham, thus, declined to make an assessment on the current state of
the offense."Declining comment can certainly telegraph a lot.