What rubbish about coin flips...each coin flip is always a 50/50 proposition.
KOC has done really well in a small market. The Jazz haven't had both a really
good all-around center and a top point guard together ever, and they have
competed almost every year for the playoffs despite this. The Jazz need to
get a good guard, and he better be able to play defense. I still say Burks can
be this guy. As for the big man, I'll leave that up to KOC. Could be Jonas, but
I think Fes will still be better in the long run. Since Fes might not be with
the team, and Jonas might not be NBA ready for a year or two, well, like I said,
I'll leave it up to the only guy who might have Tomic's ear, KOC. Tomic won't be
playing center but Favors might next to him in two years.Lottery is
We dont need big men. We already are overloaded at PF. If we trade up we need to
get Harrison Barnes, not Derrick Williams. Williams is good but we already have
a Paul Millsap. If we get Barnes then Jimmer would be a decent #12 pick. If we
stay at the 6 spot then we need to take a PG like Kemba. If we take a PG at six
hopfully Khawi Leonard is still there at twelve. We dont need anymore big
europeans. i would like to see AK stay but i dont think he will. Fes will
probably be gone along with price and probably Earl. Raja needs to go and
Hayward and CJ can split time. Keep Evans and work on his outside shot. Hopfully
Tomic comes soon, but Favors could play center his defense is great. As much as
it pains me to say, they might trade Millsap. He either needs to develop into a
good 3 by working of exterior defense and his 3 point shot or he needs to play
the back up PF.My Hopeful Starters next year:PG: HarrisSG: HaywardC: Tomic/FavorsSF: Millsap/RookiePF: Al
Thanks for the insight, my error.
@ Hailstorm (BTW, unless you've lived in tornado alley, the name doesn't really
di it...)The man's name is Dikembe Mutombo. Seriously, how hard is
it to use Google?
That Biyombo reminds me of another African in Matembi Mutombo. Check out his
wingspan on U-tube along with Ante Tomic.If this is a poor draft year in the
U.S. you can bet that the brass are checking out foreign players. I personally
think that the Jazz scouts are doing a great job and that KOC is a tough
barterer.The Jazz trade for D-Will should prove that point with the Jazz getting
a former all star in Harris, Favors,( a # 3 pick ), two draft choices and 3
Million in cash.A sign and trade for AK47 is not impossible, although I would
like him to stay. KOC also seems bent on trading to Eastern teams so that we are
minimally affected by the move. All that said, it should be a white
knuckle flight until the actual draft and then we'll be able to tell if the Jazz
Organization has pulled off a few miracles.There maybe another Wes Mathews out
there that are under the radar. Let's just hope for the best, but I tend
to think that we will very surprised at the choices.
NBA Draft is on June 23 rd.
We have enought rookies and athletic players. Let's go do another trade that
will bring a big man into the picture and trade away some picks in the draft.
Hey, let's not have so much doom and gloom on here. Maybe, just maybe, the
Jazz' ping pong balls will be picked on two of the first three spins! I guess
we can all hope. But wouldn't that be awsome? Even if we got one of the three,
that would be great.
Apparently the Nets tossed the coin. Still, it's on Kevin O'Connor that the
calling of the coin toss was not included in the trade. Seriously, this guy has
got to be held accountable.
If Williams is capable of playing the 3, I think we do everything we can to
trade up and get him. If not, I think we should do the best we can with the
picks we get. There are guys out there, like Jimmer, who are a gamble. But
they can pay off big if things go well. Jazz fans, let's save the
booing this year regardless of who we pick. We look like some of the worst fans
in the league when we boo our own team.
We all know that anyone coming from the Congo is going to be older than what he
claims. However, even if Biyombo is older than 18, he has demonstrated a steep
learning curve during the past couple of years and still has great potential as
an athletic, defensive big man. He looks like a winner at the Jazz 12th pick.
The other intriguing element about Biyombo is that he could be left in Europe
for a year or two to develop over there, if the Jazz were close to the luxury
tax. At the 6th pick (if that's where the Jazz end up), it looks like the Jazz
may have one of the tall, thin Europeans available (Vesely, Motiejunas,
Valanciunas) or a decent backup point guard (Walker or Knight), or perhaps
Terrance Jones (who also might be available at the 12th pick.
The Jazz didn't toss the coin. The Nets did, and the Jazz got the result.
It's a great year for my LAKERS to not have a first round pick.After
this 3-peat is over, look for them to unload a few guys. You could probably get
Walton (Please, somebody take him!) or Shannon (hasn't hit a 3 in a year) Brown
pretty cheap.... :-)Go Lakers!
Kanter is the "real deal". It is stated that he has bad knees.
However, he was at Kentucky with Calipari for a year. He picked up something
from the practices. Brandon Knight has the same "thread". There must
be a way to trade to get both of these guys. George Karl said it best. The
Jazz are one player or one trade away. They need someone with a leader
personality. Definitely, D-Wil had it in "diamonds". He then misused
his skill and "tried to take over the castle". There were others
still on the team involved in the "coup" attempt. Miles was a
follower as strangely was Kirilenko. There were several others. They were all
meeting with Williams when the news of the trade came over the news. This was
profiled in this newspaper.
If Bizsmack is 18 then I'm very interested, if he is older as is rumored not
intrigued. Jazz need to nab the best guard with their first pick and pick up
the best big with their second lotto pick, or bpa, find the hidden gems.
I don't think there are any players in this draft that are worth moving up to
get, a player taken 6th or 12th may end up as good as those taken in the top 3.
It's a crap shoot and time will tell. We do need a long athletic 3, a defensive
big man & 3 point shooting. I like Vesely, TJones, Jonas, Kanter, Knight
& Jimmer. I hope we could get 2 of those 6 with our 2 picks.
I predict the Jazz taking the Butler big man at 7 and Jimmer at their regular
pick. They are not in the running for a championship, so no use taking a
superstar potential like williams. They'll just give'm away down the line.
lol @ byronbca I guess it makes perfect sense now that you mention
it as to why Portland keeps wanting to take Utahs players after they are proven
to be successful.
Re TJ:Yes it was sarcasm, but it wouldn't be the most ridiculous thing
I've heard Jazz fans blame KOC for.What I really think of KOC is
that he is brilliant, crafty and one of the best GMs in the league. Last time we
had the 6th overall pick we ended up with D Will. I don't know how he convinced
Portland to trade their #3 for our #6 and a few garbage picks. Can you imagine
where this franchise would be if we got stuck drafting Martell Webster that
draft? It's no wonder why Portland hates us so much.
There are a number of players outside of the top 3 or 4 that could be very good.
The problem is they all "could be" very good, they aren't sure
things. The top 3-4 players in the draft are going to be very good unless they
get bitten with injury (Greg Oden). Players like Kemba Walker,
Brandon Knight, Jan Vesely, and even Jimmer have good potential but they could
also just turn into role players.
I think May 17th is the lottery.. Not positive
i agree this draft only has 3 players who are locks to be good right away and
possible great into the future.. Irving , williams , Kanter .. but there are
always hidden jems... it just sucks that the only year we have two lottery picks
and its the worst draft in 10 years at least... i think we just take one safe
picks like jimmer or kimba or burks .. neither will be great .. and then go with
someone who has a high ceiling like bismack biyambo.. the guy had a triple
double and blocked 10 shots in the nike hoops summit game and has a 7'7
wingspan.. if he is only 18 he has huuuge upside .. but there are rumors he is
older like 21 22.. if so he may not be worth a lottery pick .. but the 12th pick
in this years draft is like a 18-20th pick in normal years..
Kevin must know that the odds of the coin landing on heads is .0001% better than
it landing on tails. What is he thinking? Fire the man today.This
draft is so weak if you don't have the top 3, it doesn't matter where you pick.
I am not too sure this year's pick will help the team. Kevin is going to have a
tough job to make a winner out of this pick. It is possible that he is able to
trade his two picks for one top 3 pick. Depends on how the ping pong's fall.Does anyone know the date of the lottery?
bluemoon:The number 6 pick is from the Nets. It has nothing to do
with Jazz wins to start the season. That would be the 12 pick.-----You know why the Jazz lost the coin flip? The NBA is out to
get us. Just like everyone else. Everyone is out to get us!Sincerely,Cougar Fan
So the Jazz can't even win at being the worst?
I agree with Byronbca. Kevin O'Connor must be held accountable for these kind
of coin toss failings ahead of the draft lottery. I would like to know what
side he called this time and whether there is a pattern of over-calling one side
at the expense of a more balanced approach. Heads or tails? It's not that
hard. I am getting really tired of losing out to lesser franchises, especially
ones that are planning to leave their home and move to Anaheim.
byronbcaWhat has a coin toss got to do with KOC? Please tell me your being
sarcastic. No one that is smart enough to use a computer could...KOC is
great at what he does. I did not realize that the Jazz also got Golden States
Top 7 protected pick in 2012 in the Williams trade. Fantastic! That could be a
difference maker in the trade market this summer. There are a lot of
underclassmen declaring for the draft. The Jazz don't need another young player
with potential or a project so maybe they can parlay one of the draft picks into
an above average center. A great outside shooter would be great also.
re: bluemoon1977This was in regards to the Nets pick that the Jazz
picked up in the trade, not their own pick.
The Jazz are horrible at coin tosses. Last year they lost one to the clippers
for the 8th pick but then won the coin toss for the pick that went to Minn. This
is unacceptable!KOC must go!
I think we've known for quite some time that the Jazz would be picking no higher
than 6. Won too many games at the beginning of the year.Right now,
this draft looks pretty much like a draft for role players. No obvious
all-stars out there this year. So this is a big risk small return draft. Draft for need: THREE-POINT SHOOTER.Not many in this draft.
Get somebody who has a great work ethic.