Not entirely unexpected. The offense is always behind the defense in spring
ball, our defense will be really good this year, our QB was out, our O-line was
Now if I were a Troll on Utah articles I would say....Wait, it's
coming.I am trying....hugggghGosh, Try as I might....I just
can't think like certain of our constantly negative friends.Hope
Utah can represent our state well in their new conference. They have a big new
challenge they have to face and they don't need their neighbors bugging them
about how they are doing. Now, back to the Cougar articles.
Headline says it all. Ouch!Looks like the PAC-10.2 will have some
fun showing the Utes what big time football is like for a wannabe mid-major
I love the new PAC12 logo on the Ute's field!!
I'm scared spitless thinking of Jordan Wynn leading my Utes. Biggest mistake of
Whits coaching career. A 155 lb high school QB as the Utes main man. What
next?Tiny Tim as the next dancing cheermom.
-Our defense is going to be solid this year. As mentioned, the front four are
going to probably be the strength of the team. Still not sure who will start
and get the reps, but there is a lot of talent back there and it will be fun to
watch them. Good luck to opposing offensive lines!-The offense
needs to step up. But I am not worried one bit about it. I have a really good
feeling about Wynn this year. He has already talked about the players only
throwing sessions over the summer. The kid wants to win and I think you are
going to see the best of Jordan Wynn this year. -Hopefully, the
offensive line can hold together! There are several NFL prospects on that line,
so I am not concerned.
Frankly big ben you should be concerned about that offense. It was awful
yesterday and you are certainly exaggerating the talent on it. If utah wins at
all next year it will be because of their defense. I see the same
look on Whittinghams face that he had after the Air Force game last year. I
remember the post game interview with him vividly and you could just see that he
knew it was all about to come crashing down. That is exactly how he looks when
he talks about this offense. It is going to be ugly.
Love the Cougar trolls out this morning!! PAC12 = BCS
Conference....and the jealousy continues.Jordan Wynn never was and
never will be a spread QB. This offense suits him well. Just remember that
Wynn took your best team in the last decade to overtime in his freshman season
on the road...the same team that beat Oklahoma and had all those record breaking
players (Hall, Unga, Pita..). Utah will be ok once their QB gets
back and can get throwing again. The best part about this upcoming season is
that the PAC12 logo on the field means we have access to the Rose Bowl EVERY
year!!! Can't wait for a championship game to be played at RES followed by a
Rose Bowl appearance. Go Utes.
Ute Dline is littered with NFL talent. looking at 4 or 5 players finding there
way into the NFL.
Sounds like the back up Qbs don't have it mentally yet...I know it's a new
system, but they have to get their heads around it. The number 2 will get a lot
of reps this year. I'm afraid Shreve doesn't have the maturity to handle
it...time will tell, but it's not a good sign in spring. Linemen on both sides
are great. The D corp is outstanding. Got to get the offense tuned up...fingers
Why in heavens name is everyone so enamored with Wynn. It's the PAC 12 for
crying out loud! It is not the MWC. Little QB's do not survive in the PAC. And
on top of that, Wynn wont run. And if he does, there are some huge 230 to 240
lb. linebackers with blood in their eye, looking to crush him. And with the O
line problems, life expectancy isn't very long. Robles and Shreve will be much
more durable. They will have to be, with the O line problems arising. By the end
of fall camp, we should see a major change in the depth chart for the QB's.
sammyg,That's pretty big talk from a fan of the team whose biggest
win last season was over a UTEP team that also barely qualified for a bowl game.
The way some of you BYU fans talk you would think your team won the conference
last season or something. Do we need to replay some of those games to remind
"The defense dominated [Utah]... They tallied seven sacks, broke up six
passes, had four interceptions, recovered a fumble and scored on a
safety."A sign of things to come.The Utes are in
big trouble pinning all of their hopes on a wounded QB who tanked in every big
game last season.
ute4ever:Hard to say if all of those 'trolls' really are Cougar fans
or if a few of them are just worried about their Utes. Here is one Cougar fan
who is pretty certain that the Ute defense will be the best unit in the state.
Even if the offense takes a while to catch up (and who knows, it might be quick)
that defense will keep the Utes in every game until they are on track. I see a
great year coming out of S.L. this year. Here is one Cougar who would love to
see the Utes represent BIG TIME in the PAC 12. Go Utes. Go Cougs.
Duckhunter,Were you at the game? Thanks for supporting the Utes!
I do believe we won the Air Force game last year. Did BYU? Nope.
So be careful looking back at last season. It certainly was more painful for
the Cougars than the Utes.Looking forward the new offense should be
a good fit for Jordan Wynn. I'm excited to see how he does in the fall. We
also have some good running backs who should be able to establish a solid
running game early.
If the defense is as good as it shows, I don't worry about the back up QB's
struggling in spring ball. If the O line protects Wynn, you won't need a back
up anyway. Wynn haters need to look at his stats before putting the kid down.
He has performed at a PAC-10 level before, and can again. I don't expect utah
to light up the scoreboard this year, but they don't have to if their defense
can keep them in the game. Just glad to be in a decent conference and have the
opportunity to complete with top teams week in and week out.
@mormon uteWhat game? Do you mean the controlled scrimmage where it
has been widely reported that the utah offense was pretty offensive? Sacks,
interceptions, fumbles, inability to even put a single drive together. That
"game"?I did watch BYU's scrimmage on Saturday along with
5000 or so other fans and that was a fine display of qb play, by multiple qb's.
Nice play from the rb's. great looking wr's. Strong defense.I am
really looking forward to the 3rd week of September.
"I don't worry about the back up QB's struggling in spring ball."You should.These two backup QBs are one hit on Wynn away
from becoming Utah's starter.Chow's West Coast Offense relies on
precise reads and timing between QB and receivers. With Wynn not even able to
throw until June, and even then, not able to throw at full velocity, the Utes
are only going to have fall camp to fine tune that timing.With only
one tuneup game to get ready for road games at USC and BYU, a struggling offense
is a huge concern. As good as Utah's defense is, they'll eventually wear down if
they don't get any support from their offense.
Well, when a two year starter at QB has to sit out and two players that have
never started a D1 game have to go up against a very good defense, this is what
you get. The running backs looked good, give these quarterbacks more time to
develop and some playing time this year and they'll get to where they need to
be.Spring ball is fun to watch, but it's never an accurate indicator
of how good or bad a team is going to be in the fall. I think it's remarkable
how far the team has come, considering they had to install a completely new
offense this year. I'm excited to see the final product of spring ball this
saturday at the Red-White game. GO UTES!
Utah's defense, as always, is going to be solid, but the offense has a long ways
to go to be ready for PAC 12 play. As injury prone as Wynn has been, it's a
little scary to think of Robles or Shreve having to face the Trojans in the
flintrock | 8:14 a.m. April 12, 2011 I really hope Whitt reads your
comment, it could save Utah football. You clearly know way more than the Utah
coaches about what the football team needs in their QB. Utah lost
some great players on offense (Asiata, Wide, Smithson, Brooks, o-linemen, etc)
it takes time to replace them, that is what spring and fall practice are for,
this is not the finished product of Utah offense.
"Duckhunter,Were you at the game? Thanks for supporting the
Utes!"MUte, Duckhunter is at every Utah sporting event, and is
part of the inner circle of everthing UofU. How do we know this?He
tells us every chance he gets!
Re: uteforeverHe also took our one of our worst teams in the last
decade to the fourth quarter, at home, and scraped by us by 1 point. I'm not here to try and talk trash, but I would be legitimately concerned
about the Utes offense heading into the Pac-12. Utah seems to have good athletes
on the offensive side of the ball, particularly at the WR position. Even the RB
position is okay. Unfortunately that doesn't always translate in to them being
great football players. If they can't execute their schemes they are going to be
in trouble against Pac-12 teams. While every team in the PAC-12 doesn't field an
elite defense, the average Pac-12 defense will be better than the average MWC
defense. To Jordan Wynn's defense, he is probably your best QB. He
will execute the schemes the best, but he folds under pressure. The Utes should
hope that their pass protection is really good because he is going to need it.
"Duckhunter, Were you at the game? Thanks for supporting the Utes!"Mormonute,Ducky doesn't need to actually go the the game...
he has full access to both Kwhitt and Spence Eccles (as he tells us)
@ Mormon UteJust drawing some lines from point A to point B. We've
seen two reports... NFL scouts say the QB's are having problems reading plays
and this article is simply confirming it. Coach says there are problems. I guess
you need to go back to remedial English comprehension or are you one of the 'new
math' kind of kids?Rewinds? You want rewinds? Several of you Ute
fans are still in denial about last year. So here's a recap.AFA
exposed your defense, TCU blew it away, ND... the 'luck of the Irish, SDSU had
you sweating and a stupid offensive play + a lucky defensive play gave you the
BYU game. Oh and let's not forget your bowl game. I'll spare you the scores on
the nationally televised humiliations.Utes are going to a stronger
conference where they will NOT have the luxury of playing several Hostess
Twinkie teams the first several games.In comparison to an
inexperienced BYU that pulled itself out of the abyss and salvaged a season. Ute football will be interesting to watch but the reports are saying the
offense is weak. Find me an article contrary to that.
I can't wait for September 17.Believe it or not, I cheer for the
Utes against everyone except the Cougs. But reality tells me it's going to be a
challenging year for the Utes, especially on the offensive side. A new OC, the
QB missing Spring and no legit backup QB is a recipe for disaster. Even at his
best, Wynn is only an average player. He's not cut out of the same cloth as
Smith or Johnson. I hope the Utes go 11-1, but I think achieving bowl
eligibility may be a more realistic goal for 2011.
Duckhunter,I'm looking forward to September 19 as well. I look
forward to seeing our defense shut down your running game just like they did
with nearly every team we played last season. Frankly, I expect BYU's defense
to be one of the toughest we will face next season. Our offense will need to
get all the kinks worked out by then, but there's plenty of time for that. Our
best quarterback wasn't even on the field Monday so fall camp will be a better
indicator on offense.
the dnews actually made this scrimmage out to be a bigger meltdown than it
really was. sure, the stats are unflattering, but the experience in utah's
front 7 this year would give a lot of teams fits. if the season started
tomorrow then yeah i'd be super worried but it's only spring and that's why you
practice. utah has 3 good, strong running backs that need to be the backbone of
this offense.as for wynn, i've never been on his bandwagon. he's
had flashes, but he lacks consistency. if he's going to have a breakout year
it's gotta be this season and i believe norm chow's offensive gameplan will put
him in a position to do so.as for now, lets focus on getting the big
hogs up front healthy and ready to go.
um, that's an understatement....did you guys forget who your new OC was? Wow.
hedgehog"Duckhunter, Were you at the game?"With seven sacks, six passes broken up, four interceptions, a lost fumble, and
a safety given up, the more important question is:Was Utah's offense
at the game?
duckhunter"I did watch BYU's scrimmage on Saturday along with 5000 or
so other fans and that was a fine display of qb play, by multiple qb's. Nice
play from the rb's. great looking wr's"Wasn't the score of this
epic offensive display at BYU's spring game you are talking about 10 - 13? It is too early to tell how any of this will turn out for either team.
What we do know is pac #1 Rose Bowl or BCS championship, #2 Alamo Bowl, #3
Holiday Bowl, #4 Sun Bowl, #5 Las Vegas Bowl, #6 Emerald Bowl.An 11-1 BYU
team in 2011?, 2012 Poinsetia Bowl, 2013 Kraft Fighting Hunger Bowl.
I was at the scrimmage yesterday, The defense did look like they were ready to
play tomorrow, they had constant pressure on the qb picked of some balls and
made alot of tackles. That being said there were some positives from the
offense, I saw the line open some really nice holes and Langi get some big gains
because of them, Langi then looked good in the open field and absolutly punished
the db trying to tackle him, John white made a move that left a db's socks on
the ground, and Palamo is just a monster. They all look like they belong in the
PAC. qb's need more work but they have come quite far since the first pratice I
watched. Dbs did not look bad either but honestly it was hard for me to follow
them because the d-line was putting so much pressure up front.sidenote;
sammyg you should get some sleep you do not make much sense at 1:45am, or
perhaps you should go back to rattling those doornobs security is important at
that time of night.
You know the U Dline is very, very good when it appears Dave Kruger wont even be
a starter this year.
gonefishnBowl tie-ins don't mean much when U don't qualify for a
bowl. The way Utah's offense is playing, the Utes will be lucky to finish above
.500.At 11-1, BYU could very well be playing in a BCS bowl, and at
12-0, BYU will be a lock for a BCS bowl -- don't forget, BYU would be beating
Texas, Utah, Oregon State and TCU to get to 12-0 or 11-1.
@dknight68... decoding my commentAppreciate your concern. Came in on
a late flight, just had to read the football 'news'. My comment...
"Headline says it all" is really about what was not mentioned... the
offense. Get it now?'click'
gonefishnAnother thing that we know is that Utah will not be going
to any of the top 4 bowls. The only reaso you have a chance at the Vegas Bowl
is because USC is not eligible.
gonefishn"Wasn't the score of this epic offensive display at
BYU's spring game you are talking about 10 - 13?"The actual
score was 18-17, but your "epic offensive display" comment is just
plain clueless.BYU's "spring game" was a 60-70 play
controlled scrimmage, played in a snow storm, with a running clock that only
stopped during the last two minutes of each half. Total elapsed time from
beginning to end of scrimmage, including the overtime, was just a little over an
hour. Four different quarterbacks played, with Heaps and Nelson only playing 4
or 5 series each.BYU's offenses and defenses both made some great
plays, showing great promise for even better things to come next fall.Heaps to Apo. Be afraid! Be very afraid!See you in September.
"It is the most important scrimmage of the spring and that being the case
we wanted to make sure that we had the best weather possible for it,"
Whittingham said. "So we can have as clean of a look as we can
get."The bottom line, he added, is it needs to be as error-free
as possible. That, in large part, was why it was moved to a different day.hmmmmThe defense tallied seven sacks, broke up six passes,
had four interceptions, recovered a fumble and scored on a safety.If
that's as error free as possible on a bright, sunny day, just imagine how
pathetic Utah's offense would have been if they'd been playing in a snow storm?
Again you all cry when we comment on your articles but tds fans are just as bad.
Ute fans dont care, you dont have Jimmers anymore so you try to trash the Utes.
Duckhunter and samg are the biggest trolls who arent cougars fans just ute
WCO is not a offense that takes one offseason to build around. You need to
recruit players to play in that offense. Utah is going from a team that is
filled with players that play in the spread at their skilled positions to a more
of a power run team. Look at Stanford before Harbaugh got there. His
first season wasn't all that good, but they played BIG against the big boys
(USC), and as soon as Harbaugh got his players that fit the WCO that program
@ Utes21Against the likes of your 'favorite' sons or daughters,
Hedgehog, Chris B, etc. I'm reminded of an old Avis Rent-A-Car slogan...
"We're #2, we try harder"I simply point out a couple of
articles about the Utes anemic offense in practice and I'm instantly a Ute hater
and not a Cougar fan. I'll accept the fact that I'm a called a troll
for commenting on a Ute story. By the same token I hope you can start wearing
'big boy pants' and just accept a comment for its face value.
Face what comment you just dog on the Utes because you hate them. Dude you are
without fail on every Ute football article going off how much they are going to
stink. Your comments are there just to get a rise out of Ute fans like Chris B
does with y fans. You have become the Chris B of Ute articles along with
sammyg,All I see about BYU is the energy level is up. The players
and coaches are excited, but nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the
room. Will the new schemes put in place by the new coaches on offense work?
BYU doesn't have too many cupcakes on their schedule either and you have totally
different offensive coaching staff from the ones that ended the season last
year.You finished strong against weaker opponents for the most part
and you weren't able to beat us so I don't see how you somehow got the
impression you have bragging rights.
Swoop,I nearly choked on my snacked I was laughing so hard at your
comment. Everybody is making such a big deal about Utah's new coaches and
offensive scheme. What about BYU? You have a totally rebuilt offensive
coaching staff. I don't think any of them are coaching the positions they did
last year and one has never coached before. Energy and excitement are good, but
they only get you so far.
KWhit is going to waterdown his defense on Saturday to give his offense a
chance.Chris Hill is sending a memo to all PAC 12 teams to see if he
can get them to do the same this fall.
Utes 21Find me a quote where I've ever said the Utes "stink,
will stink, etc." I've simply taken a position that I believe the Utes will
underperform most fans expectations first season based upon last year's
performance against strong teams, current scouting reports /articles and
statements by EVERY Ute fan that claim the PAC is a stronger conference than the
MWC.So being the little country boy I am I simply add things up and
come to my own conclusion. Funny is that many of your own agree that things are
not going to be easy.How any fans can simply say it's going to be a
cakewalk is just being silly. If the Utes pull it off great, I'll be happy with
you. If they don't, well...@ Mormon Ute... Coaching
staff is not that much different in comparison to what the Utes are going
through. Doman is a regular but granted things are different with him as OC. I
bet the learning curve is a little shorter for BYU than the Utes. With Wynn out
it doesn't make it easier.Energy level = momentumNot
bragging! That will happen in September.
I'm always glad to see duckhunter and sammyg on Utah boards. It never fails does
it? Hasn't your mom grounded you guys from the computer yet. Do us all a favor
and get a life. You guys are way too concerned about the Utes...why is that?
Please explain, I'm dying to know. Excited for Saturday, going to be
fun. Please don't snow.
10-3, (17-16) Brandon Burton7-6, USUBYU fans who try
and tear down Utah's season last year are delusionalUtah fans who
say there aren't concerns about the offense are delusionalBYU fans
who base their projections of Utah's offense on the spring results are extremely
short-sighted.Utah fans who ignore the effects of the overhaul are
spinning through their red goggles.Wynn is already throwing, just
not in live practice and Utah's success, and is a key to Utah's offensive
success. The bigger key is the offensive line coming together in order to be
effective in the run game, and frankly we won't know how good that is until
sometime after the Montana St. game when they lines aren't going against each
other, and we can evaluate them over a few games against D-1 talent. (I know
it's FBS, I refuse to recognize the term.)Unfortunately, until then
we are left with the same tired arguments from both sides. Frankly I think more
of us need to get outside and spend less time on the board.
I like this headline better: "Offense Inept During Scrimmage"
pocyUteUtah fans who base their predictions off of Utah's 8-0
cupcake schedule to start the 2010 season are delusional.Utah only
broke 20 points once in their final five games and the Utes lost almost all of
their skill plays from last year.7-473-2838-3417-163-26Whittingham having to water down his defense just
to keep his offense from being completely humiliated this Saturday says all you
need to know about the state of Utah's offense.Unlike last year,
Utah won't be able to coast for a couple of months this year before the Utes
re:sammyg and despite all the problems (with an injured QB) last year, the Utes
still went 10-3 and finished second in the conference to a very good TCU team
and still beat the fifth place kitties.
skywalker,those are the same teams that BYU lit up later in the
season, so how can BYU fans base who base their predictions on the last half of
their season are just as delusional.
also, skywalker, if you followed Utah's spring practices through the years, you
would know that Whit always runs a vanilla defense in the spring, so no, that
doesn't tell me all I need to know.Frankly, I don't know why you are
getting defensive about my post. I merely pointed out that there are ridiculous
notions being thrown out by members of both fan bases. Instead of
saying, "BYU fans who try and tear down Utah's season last year are
delusional," would you rather I said, "BYU fans who try to tear down
Utah's season last year need to remove beam from their eye?" No matter how you phrase it, I find it hilarious that fans of a team that
finished 7-6 last year, that lost head to head to Utah, were barely bowl
eligible, and was humiliated by Utah State talk smack in any way, shape or form
about a team that went 10-3, and as mentioned, beat them head to head.I find it equally ridiculous that Utah fans talk any smack at all towards BYU
@sammy"PAC 10.2" no such thing, therefore makes no sense.
Get more sleep.
Well, I figured that Utah's defense was pretty good. But I didn't think the
offense was that bad. Well, we'll see. I suppose if you're missing o-lineman
and your starting QB that the offense won't be productive. Still, those stats
are pretty shocking. The 4 interceptions (against a mediocre secondary) lead me
to believe that the installation of the WCO still has a long way to go. The QBs
and receivers are not on the same page with the QB running for his life. I
really would like you guys and Colorado to do well in the PAC next year (except
against Washington) or the boo birds and whiners will come out and say what
stupid idea it was to expand. I don't believe that, not for a minute. Next
year will be great! (especially if the TV deal means I get to watch more PAC
football down here in SEC land).
What happens when you have a great defense and a questionable offense? The
defense spends a lot of time on the field and here come the injuries. You can
survive a game or two but not a whole season. That is my concern for the
"What happens when you have a great defense and a questionable
offense?"If those concerns exist after fall practice then you
should be concerned, sheesh it's April, and we're all forming opinions based on
4 or 5 lines buried in the Dnews. All except troll nation, they will
continue to pound out their same tired mantra with two fingers regardless of
reality, it's how the learn to read.
@pocyIf Whittingham is running a "vanilla" defense right
now that would raise even more concerns about the utah offense wouldn't it? What
happens when real defenses are coming at them?I also don't
understand the optimism some of the ute fans on here have about wynn. While he
will be back in time for fall camp he will be extremely rusty and he is scared
of contact anyway. The west coast offense may be better suited to him but his
meager skills and unwillingness to take a hit doesn't bode well.I
really do think you guys should be worried about this. Just like BYU last year
had alot of offensive weapons to replace utah has the same problems this year
with the added burden of installing an all new offense and a definate upgrade in
the quality of defense they will face.
DuckI'll do the best I can to answer your questions, and I think
they are legitimate. Personally don't put much stock into how the team looks,
execution wise, in spring. Kyle has always stated the offense is behind the
defense at this point, even lat in spring and given the installation of a new
offense, they would be even more so. I pay more attention to how focused the
team is, and with how much intensity they are practicing with. From all the
reports I heard, the team has been working very hard. So the results of the
spring scrimmages don't worry me all that much. I'll worry more if Utah only
puts 28 points on Montana St.
Regarding Wynn. I'm cautiously optimistic about him. Based on last year, Wynn
was tentative and played scared. Chow has spoken very highly of him (coach
speak? probably, but if Wynn is at least understanding the system close to as
well as Chow says he is, it should help his learning curve on the field).
However, Wynn was a pretty good freshman qb, and showed a lot of promise. The
real question is, which is the real Wynn? Is it the freshman Wynn who shook off
shaky performances, played with confidence and had a good arm, or is the
TCU/Notre Dame Wynn who played scared and confused. As an optimist, I fall in
the camp that the real Wynn is closer to the freshman and hopefully last year
was a sophomore slump aggravated by (but not completely caused by) injury.As for him being rusty; he's already throwing, just not in practice, and
his shoulder should be up to 100% by June at the latest, so he'll be able to
work on timing with his receivers over the summer and then in fall camp.
Regarding being worried about Utah's offense. I'm always worried about Utah's
offense, but also cautiously optimistic. I'm not as worried about the QB play.
4 picks in a spring scrimmage by the projected #2 and 3 qbs doesn't really
concern me. Replacing the running backs will be tough. I expect the receivers
to be considerable better than last year. Brooks had alligator arms, and Shakey
was not overly effective as a receiver.The success of the offense
will all come down to O-line. replacing Taylor and Shlauderhaff is a tall
order. However, I think Davis is a huge upgrade from Miller. I've always felt
the Davis hire was the most underrated event of the offseason. If he can get
the O-line up to speed, the offense will be fine. That's my biggest worry, is
getting them working together. I have confidence that the talent is there, and
that Davis will eventually get them reaching their potential, I just hope it is
early in the season vs. later.It was a lot of words, hopefully they
made some sense.
I seem to remember all last year at this time. All the "Utesie"
trolls talking about BYU's QB woes, hahahahaha now it has come back around. The
Offense is pathetic, although I do hope Langi plays well, he ruled Bingham. But
Wynnie, even if he stays healthy( which he won't in the Pac, USC will put hits
on him that will remind him of Jordan Pendleton) But even if, he won't be
playing in any Pac championship or Rose Bowl. No way you will convince me Wynnie
will smoke the Pac-12 with only a few months to prepare. He may beat the mighty
Montana State's of the Utseies coming schedule. And so what if he took the Cougs
to overtime as a freshman, Max Hall also beat you in his first year too. The
rivalry is always a different game.I agree with a previous comment, if you
listen to your coach, even he is not very confident about his Offense. That's
not a good sign folks.
pocyUteWynn may be throwing, but he's not throwing at anywhere close
to full speed. That won't come until at least May and it'll probably be June
before Wynn starts practicing with his receivers.
91,you're exactly right, and I said as much in my post, that I
figured he would be fully recovered by June. Obviously it would have been
better for his progress to have been 100% for spring, but, depending on how he
fares health wise, it might be a blessing in disguise that Shreve and Robles get
so much work.I'm not saying he won't make it through the season
unscathed, but 2 years running he's been injured. We saw the same thing with BJ
until they bulked him up and schemed to protect him his senior year.
@pocyWell I think those are realistic assesments. I agree there is
talent there at every position excpt qb. I don't think the qb talent is all that
good. But the truth is the qb talent has never been all that great and utah has
still had some great seasons. I never thought smith was all that talented but he
did fit the system well. I think alot of his success was because defenses hadn't
yet figured out how to defend the spread at that time.I never
thought Johnson was all that great a talent either but he was effective and
combined with the great defense utah had in '08 he was good enough.While utahs season will hinge on the defense, which I expect will be good,
they have to at least be able to score 28-30 ppg to pull out a winning season.
Most of the teams they are playing will be scoring in that range on average.I think that is going to be tough for them but for the sake of the good
ute fans like yourself I hope they can.
Duckhunter,Thanks for being reasonable about the Utes.
Duck,I appreciate the sentiment.
It's not a good d-line as much a bad o-line? Defense folds against good
competition. Remember TCU, Boise State, & Notre Dame? Utes will never win a
conference championship and will be years away from bowl games. Mark these
worf,thanks for pointing out what we already knew, namely BYU is not
"Duckhunter,Thanks for being reasonable about the
Utes."I second that sentiment with one additionThanks for being reasonable about the Utes. For the first time!!
Defense shines because of dull offense. D-line is average at best.