Q liflong repulican and usalover You should both know the facts before you
comment. Better to remain quiet and be thought a fool, than to make a comment
and remove all doubt.
@Naval VetWell, ESPN just moved into our Provostani Neighborhood and
wants to pay us millions to play in said sandbox.And they're
bringing all their little friends with them, the powers of College Football.And National TV to boot.
And BYU's cruise itinerary will include National TV for every game, Football and
Basketball, with ESPN or National/International BYU-TV.You know
recruits kind of dig that.They also dig playing for a program that
has Heisman, NC Championship, Players of the year, Hall of Fame inducted players
and coaches, Outland, Consensus All-Americans, etc. and facilities second to
none.What they are not impressed with are bottom-feeder teams in so
called power conferences. Don't see them flocking to Pullman. And they won't be
flocking to SLC with no visibility and when they compare it to Tempe, LA, Bay
Area, Seattle, Eugene, oh yea good luck selling that Wazzu-Utes.We
will dine on scheduling teams with ESPN's backing, like Texas, Notre Dame,etc. We'll have our share of patsies as well, like Utah and Montana St.
etc.Recruits will know that all of their games will be on a National
Basic Tier Network and not fox regional or local tv.And these
Cougars know, that because of their "Brand", (not tag along coat-tail
conference affiliation, you know, the Socialistic model), they will make
millions with the number one name in Sports.
Bluto:Speaking of ships that have sailed, the 2010 conference
carousel has concluded. And despite 3 decades of cougarclubbers claiming secret
meetings, and enthusiastic Pac-10 pro-expansion officials coveting the
"whY?", it was Utah and Colorado who received the Pac's invitation.
TCU accepted the Big East's invitation, Nebraska defected to the BigTen, and the
Big XII - despite two membership vacancies - preferred instead to forgo a
lucrative conference championship game, and shut their doors for expansion to
any of the remaining mid-majors. The music had stopped, and guess who was left
standing without a chair?Answer: The Indy-WAC cougars. Your ship
had sailed.But thanks for coming to the pier to wish us our bon
voyage. Have fun playing all alone and dejected in your irrelevant little
Like lipstick on a pig. The U of U program at all levels, save
gymnastics, is headed to the Land of Obscurity in the Household of Wazzu.The ship has sailed, no turning back, there is an iceberg up ahead with
your name on it.Enjoy!
"I've heard he has given wedgies to insubordinate players."In light of having our own resident commentator Hedghog, I protest the giving
of 'wedgies', 'hedgies' etc. to Utes!All joking aside Jensen sounds
like a good tight fit for the assistant job. Local guy invested in Utah.Hope the bleeding and loss of players comes to a halt.
With regard to players leaving or exploring leaving the U hoops program, it is
looking like Boylen did a poor recruiting job. He obviously did not sell the
University of Utah as the place to be--maybe Boylen was making his own personal
promises that he can no longer keep.I'm excited about this new
coaching staff. Krystko is definitely covering all of the bases. Krystko has
had great success developing big men. Tommy Connor fully understands point
guard and the perimeter game. The assistant from CSU helps put it all together.
A nice combination of playing and coaching experience on Krystko's staff!
I wouldn't worry about how Alex Jensen will treat the players, if he's hired.
He survived Majerus as a player both before and after his mission. I heard him
speak at a fireside after his mission and he did a great job. Judkins also
survived being an assistant under Majerus without adopting Majerus' bad habits.
In My Humble Opinion says, "you have to think someone who has been with
Majeurus all that time has learned x's and o's, but wonder what bad habits
they've picked up on how to treat players..."I too am concerned
about how Coach Jensen may treat players. I've heard he has given wedgies to
insubordinate players.What if he has taken to pronouncing offense
"oh-fense" like his mentor does?
Two observations to add.First, Coach K obviously is not afraid to
hire good coaches to help him. This is a direct contrast to Majerus and maybe
even Giac and Boylen. Majerus started with some really good assistants and
hired some others along the way as some would leave, but he became jealous of
the praise his assistants got and after a while forced the good ones he had so
he could stay in the lime light. The program began the downhill slide when he
did that. I don't think Giac or Boylen had any really good assistants to help
them. I don't know why, but maybe they were afraid of good people over
shadowing them. If this hire happens Coach K will have 2 or 3 assistants who
are all head coach caliber and that will only benefit the program.Second, let's not panic too much over the players leaving. Remember how
inconsistent this team was throughout the season? Do we really want a lot of
the players left from that squad? They weren't terifically deep either. What
did Boylen typically use, a 6 or 7 man rotation?
Big_Ben, Utah fans should remember that when they criticize Bronco for signing
an RM who originally committed to another school. Even though the athlete
contacted BYU first.
@ Dave S:The BYU staff is coming apart? An asst head coach gets a
head coaching job and you define it as coming apart. You do realize that you got
your 6th choice for hc right? If the head coaching staff is coming
together so nicely why are there now more coaches than players at the U?
@Cougars1Of course you are right about the two missionaries
situation. krsytkowiak would not contact them and tell them they wouldn't have
scholarships if they hadn't already been promised scholarships. My guess is they
just weren't all that good so he didn't want to use scholarships on them but if
they will walk on he can then see if they are worth giving one to. ute
"fan" spin is generally hilarious. LOLAs far as utah going
after kids that have committed but haven't signed yet, well I don't have a
problem with that. If they haven't signed then they haven't signed. Coach
Meachem at Am. Fork played basketball for majerus at utah so there might be a
chance they can get this kid to decommit and go to utah. If I was krystkowiak I
would certainly give it a try.Of course that doesn't address the ute
"fan" hypocrisy as they will no doubt praise the attempt but would
criticize the exact same thing if BYU tried to do it. But ute "fans"
are one thing and a coach with a job to do is another.
@Cougars1That was a promise that Boylen gave them. It has to be
frustrating to them and to the parents, but come on. It's not fair to Larry to
be commited to two scholarships down the road when he doesn't know the kids. I
don't have any issue with what he did.As far as going after the Utah
State commit, I am glad that he is doing that. He owes it to the fans to try.
If you are a solid commit, you would not open your door to anyone else. There
is absolutely nothing wrong with recruiting someone who has already commited.
To those who say the two missionaries were walk ons and never had a scholarship,
you need to get the story straight. They walked on with academic scholarships
and were promised athletic scholarships by Boylen upon their return from the
mission. Why would Larry contact them and tell them they have no scholarship if
they were never promised one. That would seem to be a phone call he would not
even have to make.What about Larry going after one of Utah States
committed players in AF?
BYU fan here, but I've got to say that a lot of these kids that are leaving the
program now are going to wish that they had stayed to play for LK. Utah will
fare better in the PAC-12 than they did in the MWC...partly because the bball in
the MWC was unbelievable this year.As far as Jensen goes, I hope he
gets the spot. He was a stud during Utah's deep run in the NCAA, and seems to
have the smarts to make good things happen.
Real Bass hit the nail right on the head."Coach K" seems
determined to hire his own successor.
If K hires Connors AND Jensen, I'll be impressed. If he doesn't
hire Jensen, maybe Rose will give him a shot. After all, an assistant from
rival UNLV worked out well for BYU, Rice and UNLV.That said, you
have to think someone who has been with Majeurus all that time has learned x's
and o's, but wonder what bad habits they've picked up on how to treat players...
I for one don't pretend to know how long it will take for Utah to become a solid
basketball program again. I do know that they haven't been one lately. I hope Coach Krystowiak gets the ship righted. This next year will
likely be a rough one for the Utes, but hopefully over the next few years we can
see steady progression.As far as Alex Jensen is concerned, he seems
like he would be a great addition to the coaching staff. My fingers are
Although the old rivalry will hardly be the same in the future, the University
of Utah still represents me as a citizen of Utah, and I hope they can get things
straightened out. Of course that all rides on recruiting. I can see
how Jensen would help recruiting a lot, especially locally, because he has a
level of character and the kind of personality that engenders trust from the
recruits and their parents. But the ultimate responsibility lies with
Krystkoviak, and only time will tell there. He can't be worse than the previous
two hires, so here's hoping. Meanwhile: Dave S., if you're going to
comment in public, at least make sense. Rice leaving for a HC job is not
indication of things falling apart, and there are any number of highly qualified
candidates waiting to step in.
Tommy Connor and Alex Jensen--hmm, do you think Coach K realizes that there was
a certain sense of--ooooh, how do I put it----TOUGHNESS--missing?!!
I hope that we Ute fans can prove In Stitches etc. wrong and come out and
support the team next year. You can't smack talk about how great the Ute program
is if you aren't there supporting the team.Also, I hope we are more
patient with this coach than we have been in the past. It IS going to take a
while to rebuild the program. Anyone who thinks differently needs to pay more
attention. There are no magic fixes and playing coaching roulette just prolongs
Oregon Ute.....If I were you, I would choose a team from your home state to
follow, your Utes are in a bad, bad way for next season. They are going to be
destroyed every game in conference. They were really bad this year and it looks
worse for next year.Chris B: No comment
Veracity, Touche. I should have left the comment about the team down south out.
I stand corrected. I will do better next time.
To Dave S: How can you say that BYU's staff is falling apart? The only thing
that happened is that Dave Rice got a well-earned job at UNLV, getting chosen
over highly-regarded Reggie Theus, otherwise there would be no changes. Rose's
staff has been more stable that our head coach position at the U. Rice's hiring
by UNLV says a lot for Rose's hiring of good coaches. Rose will be challenged
to get someone as good as Rice, but things certainly aren't falling apart.
Can't you see what is going on in Provo simply for what it is rather than
injecting your sophomoric invective into this discussion? As a Ute
surrounded by PAC-12 alumni, I can only hope we Ute fans aren't judged by
comments like yours. Kudos to Coach K for assembling what appears to be a good
staff. Getting Jensen would be a coup.
Oregon Ute...I sounds as if you read these blogs quite often...and referring to
the school down south means you have fallen right in step with those who are
critical of BYU...remember, when you point a finger, there are three pointing
back at you...clean your own house before you define someone else as sensitive.
Hey, Kiboo & any other Son's of Provo:Put down your copies of
Myths of the UofU as Purpoted by BYU Fans, and read some articles that explain
what went down with these two walk-on's/academic scholarship (not athletic)
players before you play the anti card. Krysko was hired to do a
job, a major re-build/overhaul of the entire program. He was totaly honest with
these two kids, just as Majerus was with his LDS players, both walk-ons and
scholarship players, during his tenure on the Hill. The two players in qustion
have the chance to come back and be part of the program again. They were not
banished from the team because they chose to serve a mission.Krysko,
Connor, and hopefully Big Al will go out and actively recruit LDS players, and
understand that it is a 6 year commitment and plan accordingly. The
questions/scenario posed by kiboo is typical from our friends to the South. No
coach who invests time and energy into recruting an athlete will renege on an
offer. You would write your own tombstone if you did that. Unfortunately for
walk-on players nothing is guaranteed.
This could be scary fo k when he realizes he has two assistants who are better
coaches than him and were at least on the fans radar.
If this doesn't happen I will not attend another Utah basketball game with a
coach who evidently hates the instate recruits and the lds missionaries. If
Alex Jensen came I think he could be our head coach in 3, 5 or maybe even less
Someone will need to do their recruiting for them. I think this coach would do
very well for them. Who else are they considering?
Kiboo, get your facts straight. Read "raisedaute" at 4:55. The
missionaries were walk ons and not scholarship players. They still have the
opportunity to walk on. Quit the bashing. I'M LDS and I am getting tired of
the sensitivity of the LDS people thinking everyone is out to get them. That's
what they do down south. Knock it off.
MAFU, you say that Coach k is willing to "work around" the missionary
program. If that is the case, why would any athlete go on a mission if he knew
that when he got off of his mission his scholarship would no longer be there and
that he would essentially have to walk on? Are you going to do the same with a
junior in high school - sign him and tell him that because he is a two years
from joining the team that when he is ready to start at the U he will have to
walk on??? It makes no sense! If Coach k wants to recruit the LDS
athlete then he had better learn quickly because what he is doing is WRONG.
This would be a fantastic edition to the Ute staff. Please make this happen
Coach K. Gotta love how our staff is coming together quite nicely and BYU's
appears to be falling apart.
i don't know who the other two candidates are, but Alex Jensen would earn every
penny of his salary (maybe even twice over), and would make the team believable
No one cares about the program like a graduate. I love this hire. I understand
that he's been working with Big Rick out in St. Louis for the past couple of
years so he knows his stuff. I would think that Alex won't be really valuable
in recruiting for a while, but the Utes have time, they are going to stink for a
while, but Alex will make the program better in the long run.GETERDONE!!
Chris B"I have confidence these coaches can make a middle of
the PAC 12 team next year and within 3 years be fighting for the top of the PAC
12."A team that finished 7th in the MWC and lost its two best
players is going to be middle of the PAC next year and challenging for a title
in 3 years?Either the PAC is much weaker than we've been led to
believe, or Krystko has a hidden stash of great college basketball players that
nobody else has discovered...or Chris B is just making another one
of her famously inaccurate prognostications.
DiMaria couldn't start for Southern Utah so him leaving was not unexpected. Best
of luck to him. Let's get this straight, Krysko hasn't cut scholarships from
kids on missions. The two players in question were not on athletic scholarships
before. It's also debatable they were even PAC 12 talent and I guarantee you
that if they were they would have had a scholarship before and one waiting for
them when they got back.I hope Alex gets the job, he would be great
benefit to the program.
Back when Jensen was a starting Forward on the Utah basketball team, Majerus
used to describe him as not as talented as Van Horn, Miller, Doleac, or Mottola,
but one of the smartest players he's ever coached. He also lauded his work
ethic as unrivaled. Coincidentally, that was how Rick Majerus'
coach at Marquette used to describe Rick during his collegiate playing days.***Dear Coach Krystkoviak,GET THIS GUY! -Naval Vet
Great choice, Dr. Hill...before coach K is done, there will only be 1200
students at the U and recruiting will be limited to south Baja...wow and I
thought it couldn't get any worse...the U has proved me wrong again!!!The new conference will be known as the PAC 11 and Utah...
Bad move cutting scholarships of LDS missionaries. That just about completely
wipes out any chance with local players. Not that coach K had much of a chance
Holy cow! Another player is leaving?Who is going to play for the
team next year?And people are claiming a middle of the pac12
A huge win in recruiting local talent? Don't Ute fans realize you're in the PAC
12 now? How much local talent do you think can play at that level. 1, maybe 2
players at the most in each class with most of them being Utah Valley, aka BYU
Alex would make an excellent addition to the Utah Staff.Go Utes!
@ USALOVER Maybe you should get your facts straight before you
start spouting off about things which you know nothing about.... The 2
missionaries were walkons WITHOUT scholarships when they left on missions. All
he said was they were welcome to walkon again and try to get scholarships!
This would be a huge win in recruiting local talent. Coach K needs to get this
done. Good luck, Alex.
Swoop, this is all just normal churning of waters when a coach changes. Things
will be fine on the Hill. The U is not the first school that's had a down and
need to rebuild, and they won't be the last.What Utah has in place
already is a history and expectation to win. Very few schools have that to point
back to. Ute fans' expectations are high for hoops, but it's not without reason.
I'm confident the Utes will be back on the scene kicking tail.
@ USAlover:Your attempt to paint Krysko as anti-Missionary is way
off base. He was very upfront and honest with both these players. He let them
know that their scholarships, which are renewed on a yearly basis anyway, would
not be held for them. They were told that they could walk-on upon returning
home from their missions if they choose to do so. He stated in his press
conference that he was very open to recruiting LDS players and working around
the Missionary program. He could have sent them on their way and lied to them,
but he didn't. Check your facts next time.
This group is coming together very nicely. I have confidence these coaches can
make a middle of the PAC 12 team next year and within 3 years be fighting for
the top of the PAC 12.
"Also, the U. sports information department confirmed that junior forward
Antonio DiMaria will not return to the program next year."This
should have been the headline, "Ute Coaches To Out-Number Players in
Re: SwoopWe can replace DiMaria and Guiot with just about anyone and
be just as well off, if not better. These guys leaving doesn't hurt us one bit.
They weren't D1 guys anyway.
Awesome! Another great hire if it gets done. Bringing him back home so we can
get the recruiting back locally. He was a hard nosed, hard working kid too. Love
it.I remember he would park his old, beat up truck by the HC as he
was going to class. Very unpretentious and easy to talk to. Good
luck Alex, I hope you get the job.
Kupets is next to go. He would fit in nicely with a 1A or 2A high school
This is more good news. I didn't realize he had more spots to fill, but getting
Alex Jensen back into the program will be great! Two former players with solid
ties to the community and great raport with the fans will really help get the
program back on track.
Special K better get his staff finalized quickly because the Utes are going to
have to recruit a whole new team.Will Clyburn - exploring other
optionsJ.J. O'Brien - exploring other optionsAntonio DiMaria -
exploring other optionsPreston Guiot - returning to SW Baptist to play for
his fatherIt's like rats leaving a sinking ship, nobody wants to
coach or play for the Utes.
They might want to remind Coach K Jr. that Alex was a returned missionary.
Evidently, Coach K doesn't like missionaries after cutting scholarships to two
LDS missionary kids.He's a perfect fit for the U!
Cue Peaches & Herb - Reunited and it feels so good.Go Utes!
Make it happen!