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Published: Saturday, April 9 2011 8:39 p.m. MDT

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Captain
Kanab, UT

Although I am and will always be a BYU fan. I am intrested to see how Utah does this year. I believe that it will take a while for the Utes to blossum in the Pac-10 but in a few years im looking for them to be real contenders. Norm Chow is and unbelievable pick up for the Utes coaching staff and will make them a real contender.

I Still Can't Say It
Holladay, UT

Of course Coach Chow is enjoying himself up on the sacred ground of RES where he belongs. It's got to feel good to be back home. He should've never been stolen away and tricked into coaching for the team in Provo in the first place.

In other words, move along Cougars. Nothing to see here. You're not going to steal away Coach Chow again.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Captain

Well BYU even hindered with the 2-headed monster QB system took down Washington who I think finished 4th in conference last year. Utah beat Cal in that bowl the previous year with a freshman QB (I'd note BYU's win over Oregon State too but they don't have Hall anymore so it's not as applicable). I think Utah or BYU both would be a solid threat to finish third in the PAC-12 (no way anyone's catching Oregon or Stanford, due to scheduling luck Utah faces neither next year which probably gives them inside track as long as they go something like 5-1 in division which is totally doable). Frankly I would have loved for BYU to be in the PAC-12 instead of Colorado.

The Rabbit (in Spanish)
Salt Lake City, UT

I wish Utah well in the PAC12. I will root for them in every game except against BYU. Regardless of some fan behavior (which goes both ways BYU fans), Utah is worthy of the support of this community.

nunya
sacramento, ca

believe me, They don't want him. The best he's ever done was at BYU and only because Lavel was the man....he fell flat on his face after he left BYU. Aren't you just so excited that your offense is going to look like uncla's for however long chao was there? Still laughing. It's going to be a great year.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

@atl134
What??? No mention of probational USC ...despite some major spring injuries. You do realize that they are sitting with the myriad of star power that allows them to just keep reloading. Utah is going to get creamed from the get go. I wish it wasn't so...I'm a big Whittingham and Chow fan but reality will at some point... sink in. Look at USC's full compliment of new recruits. Despite probation and possible other sanctions still hanging over their heads they signed 25 of the top Rival.Com 100...all 4 stars but two who were 5 star. Plus they got 3 4stars who enrolled and are gray shirting...so that actually gave them 27 of the top 100. Utah got 2 4's...The math is definitely not there to put Utah even close to the top 3rd in the PAC. Maybe in the Soutern Division with the Arizona schools having the worst of the PAC'S big injuries.

joek
Bountiful, UT

Re Nunya -
You either don't know what you are talking about or are are intentionally trying to be negative. To say that Chow did nothing after he left BYU is like saying that Danny Ainge did nothing after he left BYU. Chow had two Heisman trophy winners, was OC at some of the top schools and in the NFL. He was widely successful, and widely sought after.

He had huge success as NC State and USC. Nunya, what have you done since you left BYU, why don't I know your name and why aren't you getting paid a million a year?

KamUte
South Jordan, UT

@nunya. You have absolutely no knowledge of football. When Chow left left for NC State and developed one of the best offense with Philip Rivers. He also developed the Tennessee Titans into a good offense and won National titles at USC with Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer. Both were Heisman winners. He did not do well at USC due to a lack of talent and infighting with Neuheisel. Only played on 7 losing teams since 1973 and even then, his offense was usually solid. Chow was the reason Lavell was successful on offense. Chow was the man that developed all of BYU's all American QB's in the 70's 80's and 90's and really helped bring in the poly connection to Provo. BYU football would not be anywhere close to where it is now without Chow.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

'Despite probation and possible other sanctions still hanging over their heads they signed 25 of the top Rival.Com 100..."

bowling green (LOL),

I know you like to troll Utah articels and leave suface-y comments. When (not if) sactions are inforced upon USC they will have to "true up". Most likely cutting deeper than the lose of 10 recruits annually (for three years). I won't agrue that Utah will forever be the under dog to possibly the most elite college football ever.

I'm not sold of Kiffin having the same success going forward.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@kamute

Some of what you are sayng there is correct but a bunch of it isn't. 1st of all chow did not develop all of BYU's top qb's, Doug Scovil and Ted Tollner were much more responsible for that. Chow can be given credit for the guys after Steve Young and only one of those guys, Detmer, would I put in the class of the pre-chow qb's.

Also the POLY connection at BYU was firmly in place pre-chow. In some ways chow is responsible for some of those guys starting to go to other schools.

I know of at least one very well known (in the NFL now) POLY recruit who he was responsible for driving away from BYU. He took those guys for granted and assumed they would simply go to BYU with no effort on his part. He was wrong and that allowed ron mcbride to make major inroads with them.

Frankly most of us a very glad he is gone from BYU and have no desire to have him back. Good for you if you guys want him, you're welcome to him, but we don't want him at all.

KamUte
South Jordan, UT

@where's Stockton. Obviously the Utes shouldn't even show up for the game because they are "going to get creamed" against USC. What's the use? BYU should stay home from Texas and TCU right? We should just schedule New Mexico State, Idaho, Idaho State, Utah State right? We should have just stayed in the MWC and not taken the opportunity to improve our university in athletics and academics right? We should just turn down the tens of millions coming our way right?

I Still Can't Say It
Holladay, UT

@nunya

"he fell flat on his face after he left BYU"

Ha ha, I guess those national championships and Heisman trophies at USC were "nothing." Nice try.

Let's just address the elephant in the room. We all know the Team in Provo should've hired Coach Chow after LaVell retired. That was a huge mistake. Look at what you've had instead. One bad hire, one so-so hire -- and a decade of mediocrity on the football field in Provo.

The Team in Provo has had one quality victory in the last decade -- the win over Oklahoma last season. But we also know how that came about. Urban Meyer helped Bronco put the game plan together that beat the Sooners. Holy cow!

mistertilly
Provo, Utah

@hedgehog

Are you really going to complain about a BYU fan trolling a Ute article? This may be the first time I've ever read a comment from you on a Utah article. You're usually lurk sites waiting for anything BYU to be published so you can be the first to predict their demise.

That said, I've been a Cougar fan my entire life, but I'm wishing the Utes all the best! I'd love for them to go into this season and take the Pac12 title right off the bat, to show all of those BCS schools that the only thing they have going for them is entitlement.

Go Cougs! and then...Go Utes!

KamUte
South Jordan, UT

@ duckhuntet. Yes the poly connection was in place but not to the same extent it would have been without Chow. Chow came straight from Hawaii High School and had that pipeline that assisted in hundreds of islanders making the transition to Provo. I have a copy of the Lavell's book that came out in the early 80's. He credits most of the offensive success to Chow and developing his qb's as well. Chow has a huge ego and has driven a lot of people crazy and away from programs. He will bring a lot of great offensive recruits to Utah as he did everywhere he has gone. Kyle will butt heads with him but if we're winning, we'll be happy.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

That's humerous there Hedgie about me trolling Utah articles I haven't been here in months...as for you... your reputation as a troll is insurmoutable. But I have a new perspective about you now since your last two comments on "The Rock's" article about the BCS Fiesta Bowl fiasco. Even in your obviously jealous demeaner you now have the distinction to be the first Utey to actually concede and admit the truth... That it was BYU's defeat of Ann Arbor's finest in the 1984 Holiday Bowl and the indisputed consensus of the Major Polls that awarded BYU the Championship that brought down The Holy Grail of College Football. The Holiday Bowl ended the time honored tradition of crowning College Football's National Champion on thier Holy New year's Day and in only the 3 Holiest of their shrines. The Rose, The Sugar and the Orange. And we already know that it was that event that led to the creation of BCS so the travesty you try to convey out of that is the continuing to have to live with the "No Joy" of Ann Arbor's finest dropping the ball. Go eat your crickets!!!

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

KAM UTE
I had a response to your 8:31p.m. response to nunja that for some reason didn't fly with the monitor. It would have preempted Duckey's addressing of Chow's impact only on a couple of BYU's All American's Scovil was there as an OC on the Quarterback production line before Chow and Chow had the benefit to learn a lot from Scovil as an assistant working with him. Scovil goes back to the Virgil Carter days and then worked with Gifford Nielson, Mark Wilson and Jim Mcmahon. You cannot separate the influence of Scovil's impact on the skills that Chow learned from him.

Let's start with UCLA and not USC not having success while Chow was thier Offensive coodinator. Obviously you weren't thinking straight. Somehow you had Knuheisel coaching USC instead of Pete Carroll. I know you meant UCLA and yes that's true... they had no talent and Chow and Knuheisel didn't get along...mainly because Rick's a micromanager and wouldn't give the riens of the offense to Chow. Then he harnessed him to a lousey impotent Pistol Offense. Chow's leaving is great for Utah.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

@KamUte
And as far as Utah's first PAC schedule vs BYU's first Indy. I'd look at it as... Utah being thrown to the dogs with out a chance to to even get out of the tightly knotted guneysack that they threw you in the pit in... while BYU wound up in a free for all rodeo roundup and at least wound up with a couple of good rounder's their first time out of the shute. I like Chow and Kyle...I just feel sorry for them on their first go around.

Y-Not-u
Bluffdale, UT

Inclement weather?! What is this, baseball?

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

Y-not-U,

Actually a smart move by a coach who annually has a scrimmage game. By delaying the game to a day with better weather he, along with the other coaches, can better assess position development.

bronco is a rookie when it comes to the scrimmage.... he'll learn...eventually.

BluCoug
Provo, UT

@ I Still Can't Say It

"The Team in Provo has had one quality victory in the last decade -- the win over Oklahoma last season."

I agree, the utes are no way on the same level as the rest of the big name teams Oklahoma, TCU, Oregon, Oregon State, UCLA, etc...

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