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  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 9, 2011 10:56 p.m.

    @wvc utefan...

    Whatever makes you sleep at night, blah, blah, blah.

    Yep, ONE thing eliminated BYU from being invited... your piddly excuse of BYU not being a big research school... yeah that makes a whole lot of sense.

    Poltical differences, religious differences and affiliation... yep, had nothing to do with any of this. Prop. 8 was ok with everyone in California, Oregon and Washington... Uh huh. Yours is a hollow argument.

    Face it bub. Utes and CU in the PAC 10.2 was a last minute desperation move to save face. It was a 'Plan B', an afterthought to the PAC's grand scheme to form the first 16 team Super Conference.

    Sorry to break this to you... most BYU fans could care less about the PAC 10.2. Fans are happy to be independent. Only BYU could pull this off. The big boys invited UTAH and CU to create their playoff system. Works great for the BIG boys but I'm not so sure how it will work for the rookies.

    Ducky called it right... consider yourselves as 'leftovers'. I hope it works out for you but I don't expect the Utes over .500 the first year.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    April 9, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    "No, the reason BYU was not invited to the PAC-10 is because they did/do not meet the reuirement of being a research university. Having a few research facilities does not a research school make. Period."

    Can you verify that all 10 current PAC-10 schools ARE research schools? Do they all meet the "requirements"? This was their excuse, but it wasn't their reason.

    Overall, BYU is just as good as half the PAC schools academically, even if it focuses on undergraduate research. BYU does have graduate programs that are excellent (as well as being in the top 10 in schools in which students continue to graduate school), as is considered a research institution.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    April 9, 2011 10:12 p.m.

    Hedgehog--No, this is not a minority issue or Chambers would have bolted for another school.

    Rock, Claws, & Duckhunter: You are probably right in that Chambers is not leaving despite being shown the door by Bronco because there is something about BYU that he wants or needs that is not related to football. As I said before I don't care to know what he did to warrant the suspension but I have to admire the fact that he is still here, even though it is a little puzzling.

  • wvc-utefan west valley city, ut
    April 9, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    Re: Duckhunter:

    Whatever helps you sleep at night. BYU is not a research school. USC is a religious school, so that argument doesn't fly. It's not the LDS argument. USC, UCLA, and plenty of other PAC-10 schools recruit LDS players whenever they can. Religion has nothing to do with it. USC has the research facilities, even if they don't boast being a research school. Deal with it.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 9, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    @wvc-utefan

    Neithers USC. That wasn't the reason. The reason is BYU is a private LDS school and some of the schools in the lib pac10 didn't want anything to do with them. I'll guaranty they didn't want to have anything to do with utah either ut it really came down to a process of eilimination and once all of the big12 schools rejected them, and BYU wasn't an option for some of them, utah was pretty much all that was left that actually brought something to the deal. Granted what utah brings isn't much, but it is more than any other school, that isn't a private religious school, in the west can bring.

    Boise is not a very good school academically and is in a very small tv market. Vegas is an academic joke and the football program stinks. They market is also smaller than the utah market although I would bet unlv gets more of their market as followers than utah does. What's left? New Mexico? CSU?

    There simply wasn't anyone left to take.

  • wvc-utefan west valley city, ut
    April 9, 2011 7:19 p.m.

    No, the reason BYU was not invited to the PAC-10 is because they did/do not meet the reuirement of being a research university. Having a few research facilities does not a research school make. Period.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 9, 2011 6:48 p.m.

    I remember reading an interview with Chambers where he said he actually had a very vivid dream that he was supposed to go to BYU. This was before anyone at BYU had ever contacted him or recruited him, he actually contacted BYU 1st because of this dream and that is how he was recruited and signed with BYU.

    Just a guess but I would say when someone has something that powerful happen, that it actually brings them all of the way across the country to a place, that they don't just release that feeling of needing to be there easily.

    Chambers may have reasons completely unrelated to football for staying at BYU and it seems perhaps football is secondary to those reasons.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    April 9, 2011 4:50 p.m.

    Cougar Claws

    Well stated! (both of them)

    Enjoy the snow!

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    April 9, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    Re: hedgehog

    Is it BYU's fault that they are the only school that really chooses to have diversity on their team? The ironic thing is that contrary to popular belief BYU has probably the most ethnic diversity of any team in the country (Black, Caucasian, Polynesian, even the occasional Asian or Latin American player) instead of just being at least 90% African American like every other team in the country.

    So if BYU is in the minority because they won't conform to the way every one else does things, it really isn't fair to judge that is it?

  • selway Paul, Idaho
    April 9, 2011 4:24 p.m.

    The only reason BYU was not invited to the Pac 10 is they do not play on Sunday so it was never an option. BYU has always had the best all-around sports program in the Mountain West and by double the largest fan base. Why is this question and that of independence ever debated? They are no-brainers.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    April 9, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    Re: idablu

    You mean a big, physical, talented, non-LDS, black athlete that had 5 whole catches last year and dropped or fumbled at least that same number? Look, Chambers is a good player, but that's about the extent of it. People talk about him like he like he's a flipping heisman candidate when what he's done with his career has been slightly above average at best. While he had good potential, at the end of the day he was just another cog in a system. Chambers has not been as irreplaceable as people have said. In fact, the receiver position has proven to be just fine without him.

    I think the reason he's staying at BYU (at least the one I hope for) is that he's finally changed his attitude. Bronco cares about what is happening in his player's off the field lives even more than what happens on the field, and that is saying a lot since he cares a lot about what happens on the field. If Chambers comes away from his experiences at BYU having learned life lessons then his time at BYU has not been a waste.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    April 9, 2011 4:05 p.m.

    The spring game was great. Lots of enthusiasm and excitement on this team. Heaps and Nelson were both very good. Nelson's TD pass to Rhen Brown was a thing of beauty. This is going to be a very good team! On the post game radio commentary, it was pointed out that there are only two schools in the country that have both football and basketball head coaches who are in the top ten highest winning percentage of active coaches. Those two schools are Ohio State and BYU - it sure is great to be a Cougar!

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    April 9, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    Love all of the interest from u fans in the real university of utah football program which resides in Provo!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    April 9, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    I Still Can't Say It,

    BYU Student is right. Remind me again, how many times has Utah won it the past 5 years? Unless I'm mistaken, Utah is tied with Utah State in number of Beehive Boot victories in the past 5 years.

    Quite frankly, I don't think it matters whether or not Utah is elegible to win it. The result will be the same most of the time.

  • BYU Student Provo, UT
    April 9, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    Are you saying that because you won't be winning it next year?

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    April 9, 2011 2:15 p.m.

    What I can't figure out is what exactly BYU is playing for in football? No conference championship and no way to get to a real bowl game.

    But because I would like to be supportive of the strange move to become independent, I have a generous offer. Utah's going to be playing for PAC championships and Rose Bowl bids and what not. So I think the Utes should take themselves out of the running for the Beehive Boot.

    Just think Cougars, you'll only have to beat Weber State and the Aggies to win the Boot. I don't think you'll lose to USU every year like last year -- so I expect you take the Boot to Provo from time to time.

    Clear out some space in the trophy case down there in Provo!

  • BoringGuy Holladay, UT
    April 9, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    The more BYU messes with its own athletes, all of the more players won't want to ever join the team in Provo in the first place.

    Let's face it, the team in Provo has some soul searching to do. And Mr. Holmoe wonders why the PAC declined to invite his school. And no, you didn't deserve a "courtesy" call either.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    April 9, 2011 1:08 p.m.

    @hedgehog | 9:18 a.m. April 9, 2011

    "what in the world did Chambers do to warrent a year and a half suspension? "

    Sorry Hedgie, that is none of our business.

    I am sure that Chambers is staying at BYU because there are some things that are more important than football.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 9, 2011 1:03 p.m.

    "a big, physical, talented, non-LDS, black athlete staying at BYU while being suspended indefinitely from the football team begs the question, "Why?'."

    I agree. Also from a public relations perspective the Y's going to need to juggle what appears to be a mainly minority issue.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    April 9, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    @Where's Stockton:

    ". . .and besides hedgie and others... it's none of your business."

    I beg to differ. I think there is a story here of public interest. I don't need to know what he did to get thrown in the dog-house, but a big, physical, talented, non-LDS, black athlete staying at BYU while being suspended indefinitely from the football team begs the question, "Why?'. There is something very compelling that is keeping him here and I, for one, would like to know what it is.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 9, 2011 11:47 a.m.

    He also had serious academic problems... it's not all Bronco's disciplinary actions going on here....and besides hedgie and others... it's none of your business. If he's willing to sit it out more... power to him.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    April 9, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    "He had a chance to be released (from his scholarship) and he was released to go anywhere he wanted to go and he won't go."
    The whole Chambers situation is a bit puzzling and this statement by Bronco is nonsensical. It seems as if Chambers has been in the dog house since day 1 and it has never been a good fit.
    Either way, if he is staying at BYU to get a degree good for him.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 9, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    Chambers mom must be pressuring him to stay. Chambers football career is all but shot at the Y. It will be interesting to see if this guy cracks.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    April 9, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    I'm pretty sure ksl is covering this with radio.. Check their site

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 9, 2011 9:43 a.m.

    Any know if there is any audio for this?

    My wife left me for Time Out for Women, so it'd be fun to get some sports in this weekend.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    April 9, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    Good question, hedgie, Yeah, it sounds like Chambers is really on Bronco's bad side. He must have really ticked him off. I'm really surprised he is still around. I would think he could get a nice scholarship and play for a smaller school.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 9, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    what in the world did Chambers do to warrent a year and a half suspension?

  • Cougar Eat Ute Cedar Hills, UT
    April 9, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    I will be attending my first ever Blue-White game today. It's a good send-off, seeing as I'll be on my mission for what could be two of the best years of BYU football in a long, long time.

    GO COUGARS!

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    April 9, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    Good to see Chambers handling things like a man. This could be a major turnaround story even he his contributions as a football player are minor his example of hard work and dicipline would be unforgetable.

  • International Cougar Fan Tacoma, WA
    April 9, 2011 12:53 a.m.

    "Teams with the most coverage on ESPN will have the advantage in recruiting against teams with lesser coverage" Urban Meyer. Thanks Urban you can be an Cougar Club Member and someday you will learn to say BYU.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    April 9, 2011 12:47 a.m.

    Now lets stay injury free, at least non-season ending injury free it still is football.