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Published: Friday, April 8 2011 12:00 a.m. MDT

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CocoNutzz
Salt Lake City, UT

@amgolfer

No, maybe I should of worded it different. But what I meant to say is that people are downplaying Sap as a starter. He doesnt hinder the team as much as people are making it out to be. Look at his numbers I posted above. Those are starter numbers that ANY team would welcome in their starting lineup.

The problem is Sap could be nearing his ceiling while guys like Favors, and Hayward are still developing their game that better suits our team as starters in the future.

If the Jazz brass and Corbin can transplant those numbers onto the bench (Sap would win 6th man with those kind of numbers) it would be better for the team going forward. With CJ and Sap off the bench Sap can make up for CJ's inconsistency with a bench that needs scoring badly.

Sorry for not making myself more clearer in my other post.

CocoNutzz
Salt Lake City, UT

@amgolfer

No, maybe I should of worded it different. But what I meant to say is that people are downplaying Sap as a starter. He doesnt hinder the team as much as people are making it out to be. Look at his numbers I posted above. Those are starter numbers that ANY team would welcome in their starting lineup.

The problem is Sap could be nearing his ceiling while guys like Favors, and Hayward are still developing their game that better suits our team as starters in the future.

If the Jazz brass and Corbin can transplant those numbers onto the bench (Sap would win 6th man with those kind of numbers) it would be better for the team going forward. With CJ and Sap off the bench Sap can make up for CJ's inconsistency with a bench that needs scoring badly.

Sorry for not making myself more clearer in my other post.

The Great Houdini
Rye, CO

Newsflash: nobody stops Wallace,NOBODY,he`s probably the most underrated player in the NBA,so those of you blaming Millsap,you must of not watched the whole game.miles,Hayward,Millsap and even Favors took their shot at him,he schooled em all.As for Millsap he doesn`t need for "plays to be run for him" or "be in exactly for perfect spot" no Paul is a real ballplayer who will get his consistently.Trade him,waive him,I`ll follow his carreer as I do Matthews,another "Real Ballplayer"

The Great Houdini
Rye, CO

Golfer,if you`re asking me whether Paul can shut down LBJ,Wallace and a few others,no I`ll admit he can`t,but who can? If you are asking me if he can start and contribute at a high level at the 3...no doubt in my mind,he has improved every year he`s been in the leaque,and if coach tells him he`s the starting 3 next year I bet Paul would adapt very well,and whether he is 6`5,`6`6,or 6`4 who cares

CJ Miles
Dallas, TX

holbrosa.......MJ would be the one the comes to mind. He was not a 3 point shooter!! Kobe comes to mind next.....Not a great 3 point shooter.......LeBron James......Should I name a few more????

CJ Miles
Dallas, TX

Inside the 3 point line, CJ is shooting 46%. Not great but not bad either. His problem is he feels obligated to jack up 3 point shots due to his positioning on the floor by the coach. Yes it is the coach who sets the plays on offense.

My point is, when CJ shoots the ball inside of 24 feet, he is fairly efficient as a shooter.

Now it is Corbin's job as coach to use CJ's abilities as a scorer in a more intelligent way.

Same goes for Millsap. He does not properly use Millsap's alilities to maximize his performance. Playing along the side of AJ does not help Millsap. He is better off the bench with Favors starting at the 4 or Fes starting at the 5. Millsap is not a 3. Too slow.

And please stop making excuses for Millsaps defense last night. Wallace is not better than Kobe and you expect Hayward and CJ to shut him down. Oh and by the way, the two have done that the last two games against Kobe. Wallace is not Kobe.

holbrosa1
Bountiful, UT

CJ Miles- that is almost laughable. All those people you mentioned are great defenders. They have all been on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd all defensive teams. If CJ could be 33% from the 3-point line like these other guys, average over 25 points a game, and make an all defensive team then obviously it a no brainer. But if all he will be is a role player average 33% from the 3-point line, average 10 points a game, and be one of the worst defenders in the game....then we don't want him. Role players need to draw attention from the stars. Teams know that CJ can't hurt them on either side of the floor. I would trade CJ Miles for a stick of Gum today!!

CJ Miles
Dallas, TX

Holbrosa......Tell me who has lit CJ up on offense? CJ defends just fine. His +/- last night on poor shooting was the best of the starters. Must be defending someone very well. He holds Kobe in check every time they play the Lakers. CJ isn't a defensive liability.

hobbie_44
Meridian, Idaho

Sorry CJ Miles...but holbrosa1 is totally right on the money. At least with a stick of gum you have a moment where there is a sense of satisfaction, and then the gum serves its purpose of keeping your mouth and breath fresh. With CJ he doesn't know his role, he is to mentally weak to stay engaged on either end of the floor when his shot is not falling, and he is consistently bad.

My only question, what wrigley gum, or hubba bubba for the trade?

holbrosa1
Bountiful, UT

I think we should take a vote. Who think CJ Miles is a defensive liability? Also I could list so many people that have lit up CJ that I would run out of words for this post with just the first quarter of the season. But just thinking about the last game: Batum to name one (21 points).

Hobbie: I would trade him for a piece of watermelon Hubba Bubba found under my daughters desk at school.

hobbie_44
Meridian, Idaho

Cj Miles -

That is laughable...CJ holds Kobe Bryant in check...come on man...for real? CJ plays Kobe like a scared puppy with his tail between his legs. To Kobe CJ is a stick of gum he chews up and spits out within two offensive plays.

CJ is one of the worst defenders on the Jazz, and in the NBA.

On the offensive note, I don't think he would be a 3rd or 4th options offensively on a NBDL team. He just doesn't have the brains, desire, competitive heart that it takes to success in the NBA. And he never will.

CJ Miles
Dallas, TX

Hobbie....I can see you don't watch much basketball. Go look at Kobe's shooting percentage against the Jazz this year.

Let's see worst defenders on Jazz team.

1. AJ
2. Millsap
3. Bell
4. Harris
5. Watson
6. Maybe CJ fits in here along with Hayward

Sokol
Las Vegas, NM

Who should be shipped out and gopne?

Kirilenko, too injured.

Okur, a one dimensional stiff.

Al Jefferson, a defensive liability and maybe bad luck AL.

Millsap, too small, slow, untalented and now soft.

Fesenko, too Ostertaglike and not very serious

Miles, inconsistant and soft

Corbin, just does not know what he is doing.

Greg Miller, cannot hold a candle to his dad.

Sokol
Las Vegas, NM

Bell....does it get any worse..

amgolfer
San Francisco, CA

@Holt56--you just can't compare Harris to Rose--ever. Look at the stat line. Rose was +24 last night, also had 8 assist and 3 TO. No comparison whatsoever. Rose can do that handily at any given point in time. He has WAY more talented than Harris and no one that knows basketball would argue that. Plus, you said it as Chicago spanked Boston with Rose going big. We got spanked on hour home floor with Harris scoring big. I understand we didn't play that well but that is no excuse.

Look, I promised Jazzcop I would give Harris a chance next year but he has to play a better/different game and improve. The point is we don't need him to score big; we need to him to put up numbers like John S. Chicago, most of the time, needs Rose to go big-unless Boozer or Deng can go big and help him....

amgolfer
San Francisco, CA

@Houdini--hey man I'm trying to strike up an healthy conversation here about Sap. I am not disagreeing with you whatsoever buddy. I love Sap and his game; I don't want to get rid of him. I have been lobbying for him to play #3 at his size (6'5"--I know at #3 it doesn't matter as much--moot point) and I have been shot down by many posters that say there is NO way he can play #3 as he would get eaten alive by quicker SF. I have disagreed with them as I have seen his growth over the years and how he can intuitively adapt. I know Wallace, LBJ, etc can't be stopped and no one can stop them in the league.

Come on Great one just trying to have a some good convo on the matter. I'm not trying to start anything here. There is not reason to say you would follow him wherever he goes. I hope we can hold onto him and develop him into a #3. I am on the same page as you, Houdini...

I just wanted your opinion on the matter...

amgolfer
San Francisco, CA

@CocoNutzz--gotcha man...I just wanted to make sure...

The Great Houdini
Rye, CO

Golfer,gave you my opinion,didn`t mean to get snippy,but I get tired of all the folks who don`t value or appreciate Pauls game.Compare Miles and Millsap,day and night.If miles had half a brain and half a heart he`d be decent.As for miles stopping colby,what a joke,colbee just had a bad shooting night,nothing whatsoever to do with miles,aka diaper boy

amgolfer
San Francisco, CA

Houdini--I hope you know I never said anything about Miles stopping Kobe--I have more brain cells than to go there, seriously. We all know CJ has talent but your right if he had more cognitive strength he would be a lot better.

I am not one of those folks who has ripped on Paul--I want to make myself very clear on that. I just think he would be a better #3 than PF--nothing more.. He is just too small when we need to go big. Sap and AJ should NEVER be our twin towers underneath against the elite/bigger teams. I think you would agree with that.

My problem is going to be with the PG position. I won't elaborate as I have made myself very clear in the past.

Haywood I think is our #2 in the future. Favors needs minutes and he will be good. I still think we need a true #5 as well. AJ cannot bang with the best on D and gets eaten alive night in and night out against the bigger teams, aka LA, Dallas, OK, Chicago, etc.

The Great Houdini
Rye, CO

Golfer,I still think cj and darius miles are related,both have the combined IQ of a bent crowbar,as for millsap/aj I said long time ago they were getting in each others way,aj moved right in to the spot Pauls loves.Yes I agree they shouldn`t both play together much,but both need to get their minutes

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