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Atheist clubs should go by the same rules for religious clubs like Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Either allow them both or allow neither.
What a relief we have moved on from gay/straight clubs, but wait till the legislature hears about this one!
Well I am non-religious, but not an atheist. These people in the bible did live and die and it is of great historical significance. I can only hope their is a higher intelligence than mankind.
Atheist clubs in high schools.
Yeah. You got a problem with that?!
Sad.
I consider myself a Christian, but I certainly don't care if atheists have a club. I don't believe being an atheist means you are 'anti-christian'--it just means you believe there is no deity. Quite frankly, it takes just as much faith to be an atheist as it does to be a Christian--and neither should feel threatened by the other. I am not troubled by your belief (or non/dis-belief), and you shouldn't feel troubled by mine.
Just curious about the purpose of such a club. I understand the function of most school clubs; some exsit around specific interests, i.e., chess, some service, some athletics. What would the their take on life be?
Yes, I read it and am commenting, but why is this a newsworthy article?
So some young people don't believe in God and are associating themselves with like-minded schoolmates.
Where's the controversy? If no controversy, why the story?
Although I am religious, I think it would be a healthy thing to have intellectual dialogue between believers and non-believers.
Perhaps it will ignite teenagers to think more.
I just oppose subtle brainwashing from the sponsors, from either side.
That's my take on it.
If this is a public school, then this club violates the Constitution. Atheism is a religion, because it professes a firm (yet unfounded) belief in God's non-existence.
An "agnostic club" would be much less controversial.
No, Gruffi Gummi, it doesn't violate the Constitution. Time to brush up on the Establishment Clause.
Many overtly Christians around here may well be closet atheists. I'd rather they just be open about it. I don't find that any more offensive than clubs formed around the worship of athletes, money, or combat.
Has anyone yet heard of a Secular Humanism club in Utah yet? Maybe that was just an imaginary religion created by some on the fringes as an excuse to bash public schools.
They're all welcome to form clubs. This is America. I personally would like to see some Mujahideen clubs formed. I admire the way devout Muslims view the struggle for self improvement as a lifelong commitment. Imagine a society of people committed to the submission of one's will to God's!
With a Buddhism club they might enjoy comparing beliefs with others who believe this life is just one step in a pathway to enlightenment, and who respect animals as beings with spiritual lives.
Other groups could teach us to honor our ancestors, stay close to extended families, or face enemies without malice. Local youth might enjoy learning from and identifying with others. There is so much to learn and so much distance still between us.
I pay taxes and I have read the Constitution. This country was founded on Judio-Christian principles Taxpayer funds should be cut off for Schools that have Atheist Clubs.
For those of you who may still be confused into thinking America was founded on Christianity, I encourage you to read Article XI of the Treaty with Tripoli.
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
This was signed on January 3rd, 1797, and later unanimously ratified by Congress and then President John Adams. The United States of America is a secular nation with the freedom to have your own personal religious beliefs.
Utah gives kids, and adults, a lot to think about. And, especially in utah, we exist in a culture where a lot of us look at it and feel "whatever they're doing, I want no part. I want the opposite", or "That poor sap is pre destined for a future of mediocrity". Stuff like that. Aethism is for some their way of saying "I'm not. I'm not you. I'm not buying it. I'm not selling out to your myopic reality". So, I have to say, I'm not surprised these clubs exist.
I wouldn't have had the wisdom to join an atheist club while growing up in Utah, but would definitely recommend my children at least attend a meeting to appreciate a pluralistic society.
RE: Schwa | 5:16 p.m
Your wrong, all the treaty says is the U.S does not represent christianlity,
the point being this was a treaty between nations not relegions,
Th U.S. clearly had strong ties to christian values and morals,
many founding fathers saying we needed a relgious peopls for it to work.
What about "release time" for students to go and study about atheism? How would that fly?
There's no difference between that and "release time" for the dominant religion in this state.
(As a side note, this is how I feel: If your church wants to come into my classroom and teach Creationism, then I want to come into your Sunday School classroom and teach Evolutionism.)
the truth---Can you tell me where in the constitution it says that this is a Christian Nation? Because I missed that part.
I don't think you can truely understand religion until you've totally rejected it (and God) and then ask yourself if by doing so would it change who you are as a person. It's only then that you can truely begin to understand what faith and hope really is.
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