The first one is in place. Tommy Connor is coming back. Go Utes!!
nunya,How many winning teams did Dave Rose coach for before he
became the head man at BYU? I believe he was an assistant to Steve Cleveland on
that 9-25 team, wasn't he? You might want to back off the smack talk and check
your own coach's history before you get too giddy.
how about start by hiring assistants not like yourself....you know, the ones
that have experience on winning teams. Because winners will continue to win
and...well you know what losing promote. hahaha
kdubb,Take a look at Jimmer's high school stats. Tyrell ranks right
there with him. Kemba was a McDonald's All-American, but he's barely 6'1"
and my point there is a lack of height can be compensated for. The Utes need
any talent they can get right now.
Mormon ute: Can't believe you are comparing Corbin to a great shooter like
Jimmer and an incredible athlete like Kemba. Tyrell is neither. Great kid but
not what the utes need.
kdubb,At the risk of offending some Ute fans, I'll reference a BYU
player to help make my point. Jimmer wasn't heavily recruited out of high
school either and he wasn't even the starting point guard until his Jr. season
at BYU. He also doesn't have a lot of height. BTW, I believe Kemba Walker is
barely 6'. We've got to start getting more of the good local talent in the mix.
Why not start with Corbin?
Mormon Ute: Andre Miller was 6'3". Corbin is a stretch to be 6'. That
said Corbin does have some offensive talent but most of his points in high
school were scored on dribble penetration and free throws. Not likely at the
next level. Can he distribute well enough to offset his defensive liabilities?
Not sure I would take that chance.
I spoke with Josh Grant when he was still living in Chicago....at Harry Caray's
sport bar in Nov 2008 watching the Utes intercept Maxie five times en route to a
48-24 beatdown, by the way. Why Harry Caray's, you ask? Because it was one of
the few places that carried the game thanks to that wonderful tv contract
negotiated by the The Mtn. and MWC. Don't worry - Josh taught an outstanding
lesson in Gospel Doctrine the very next day. We talked about Boylen's seemingly
total lack of interest in recruiting in the state of Utah or intermountain west
and getting guys from the midwest, east coast and Texas who get homesick and
bail after one season. All the while, Dave Rose gets the cream of the high
school crop and Stu Morrill pieces together solid teams from the likes of SLCC
and Wyoming JC's for crying out loud. Krystko seems interested in local
recruiting, but he needs assistants with local ties. Now that Josh Grant is
back in Salt Lake, hire him today! Jeff Judkins too!
kdubb,Andre Miller wasn't high D-1 material coming out of high
school either, but he developed very nicely under Majerus and became the team
leader. Skills can be developed with hard work.
Not sure Tyrell Corbin is a high D-1 player. Very average shooter and not sure
if he can defend a D-1 guard. Very good ball handler and passer.
And yes, they were on the Jazz at the same time.
Tyrell Corbin is getting a lot of attention from back east. It'd be a pretty
hard sell for him to stay here in town, but maybe the dad-coach connection can
do the trick.
Did Ty Corbin and Coach Y2K play together while with the Jazz ? I would like to
see him recruit Corbin JR and as long as I'm wishing I also would like to see
the X&O's talent of Alex Jensen combined with Donny Danials involvement in
recruiting and fitness.Did I read where Coack Y2K was looking at foreign talent
as well ? They sure did well with Hanno from Finland and the Australian
centers. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this coach. Time will only tell but
we should have a good grip on the projected outcome when The Utes have a full
two years of play + the following years recruiting class announcement . In 2 1/2
years we should have a better idea of what is in store for us during the 5 year
contract period. He may just be another pin the tail on the Donkey for the BYU
fans or a diamond in the rough for the Utes.
I think my cous Josh would be a great choice! He's already an employee of the
University as well. Get it done. I like what I hear from coach K
too. Not a whole lot of fluff. I'm pretty sure I speak for most Ute
fans when I say I do not want to hear one more phrase like "we are getting
better" or " I like my guys". Sounds like my 4 year old
sometimes, blah..blah..blah. We just want to see results on the
Ted H & Trevvor,Thanks for taking that quote out of context and
adding a question mark to it. That may not seem like much, but it does change
the entire meaning. Here is the entire comment:"Trevvor,So let me get this straight, it's okay for BYU to let a suspended player
travel with the team and sit on the bench, because that is showing compassion
and helping the kid overcome his troubles. But when athletes at the U are
suspended and then do what is required of them to earn their way back, it's not
appropriate and you think it's just a slap on the wrist. Give me a break and
take your double standard somewhere else."I said that in
response to Trevvor's assertion that the U is too lenient on its athletes. He
claimed this in response to an article about Tyler Shreve, an athlete whose
scholarship was revoked causing him to miss fall training camp and an entire
season of football while he earned it back. Now that you have the full comment
and its context you can decide if I am bitter, uneducated or illogical and if I
How about the best Hs coach in the state from South Sevier?
Ted is right.I am the one Mormon Ute was debating with. But Ted watch
out, what follows is usually uneducated illogical blabber with an occasional
fact that doesn't even support what the blabber is all about
Mormon Ute | 11:47 a.m. March 31, 2011 Kaysville, UT Trevvor,So let me get this straight, it's okay for BYU to let a
suspended player travel with the team and sit on the bench, because that is
showing compassion and helping the kid overcome his troubles?Hopefully that helps for those who doubted that Mormon Ute has issues with
Davies being allowed to ride the bench.
Players thinking about leaving due to the coaching change may want to talk to
Josh Grant. After Lynn Archibald was fired after what I believe was Grant's
freshman year, he was interviewed on local TV. He was not happy. I believe he
said something about being "disappointed in my university today". I
think he thought about leaving. He stayed, and look at how well things turned
out for his career and the success of the team under Big Rick. Josh ended up
going to the Sweet 16 a short time later.And how did Ted H get
bitterness out of that? Sounds like he's lookin' fer persecution where none
79Ute,If you were familiar with other comments made in recent weeks
you would know that indeed Mormon Ute took issue with the fact that BYU
"allowed him to sit the bench" even though he was suspended.MormonUte went on a long rant a few days ago on the very subject and he
thought Brandon should not have been allowed to represent byu by sitting on the
bench.Ridiculous I know, but that was Mormon Ute's belief.
Ted H,79Ute and TrueBlue have defended me well. Thanks to you both.
Ted H.Unlike some Utah fans, Mormon Ute understands the repentance
process that Brandon is going through. I don't think he has a problem with
Brandon being allowed to ride the bench during his suspension, especially since
he didn't break any NCAA rules.
Judkins deserves a shot. Majerus was a total jerk to him. he would probably have
been in the running for a HC position with the U if Majerus wasn't such an
Ted H: It sounds like you're the bitter one. There was no bitterness in Mormon
Ute's comments; he was supporting his case that Davies is staying at BYU.
mormon ute: are you still bitter that byu "let him ride the bench even
while he was suspended?" Isn't that was being suspended means - you dont
play aka you ride the bench.Or because he was suspended were you
thinking BYU should not have let him be seen with team, talk to any teammates,
ever wear a BYU shirt, show his face in public, or even think about basketball
ever again?I heard one time a University of Utah player jaywalked
and Coach Whittingham had the nerve to let the kid still show up to practice and
keep the "U" decal on his car.
He needs to get his assistants in place and then go after Tyrel Corbin. Forget
Brandon Davies. He will be staying at BYU. Once he serves his suspension.
They made it clear by letting him ride the bench even while being suspended that
they want him back on the team as soon as he can get there.
The names mentioned as assitants sound workable, if he can get some interest.
Brave Sir Robin "Playing in high school gyms in front of 2,500
people in the WCC is more of a waste of a career."Did John
Stockton waste his career playing in the "high school gyms" of the
WCC?Did Karl Malone waste his career playing in the "high
school gyms" of the Southland Conference?How about Scottie
Pippen playing in the "high school gyms" of the Arkansas
Intercollegiate Conference?Or Reggie Lewis playing in the "high
school gyms" of the ECAC North Atlantic Conference?Bottom line
is true stars grow where they're planted.Brandon Davies has a
greater chance of building a successful career playing for a proven, winning
coach at BYU in the WCC, than playing for an uproven coach on a rebuilding Utah
team that will be lucky to finish in the upper half of the PAC 12 within the
next two years.
bigutefan"...then go get Brandon Davies to sign."It's a violation of NCAA rules to recruit a player from an NCAA or NAIA
institution unless written permission has been granted by the
student-athletesinstitution.Good luck trying to get permission
from BYU to recruit Davies.--------------------Brave Sir
Robin Lots of hysterical hyperbole from jealous Utah fans, but BYU
won't be playing in front of 2,500 people, they'll be playing on national ESPN
broadcasts before a nationwide television audience. The size of the basketball
arena is inconsequential.Besides, which is better, playing in a
packed arena filled with enthusiastic fans, or playing in front of 10,000 empty
red chairs in arena where you can hear a pin drop?
Sounds like Coach K2 is looking in the right direction to fill out his coaching
staff. So far I love what I'm seeing and hearing about him.
@bballjunkieI'd hardly call going to a PAC12 school "tossing
their basketball career away". Playing in high school gyms in front of
2,500 people in the WCC is more of a waste of a career.
Bigutefan.They can't touch Davies, he is still with the Y and
nothing like starting your coaching career under issues with the NCAA. Besides
you better hope tehy do keeep what they have no one going to want to come to the
U and toss their basketball career away?
Get somebody to convince Clyburn to stay, and then go get Brandon Davies to
Any of the former Utah B-Ball players/coaches that were mentioned in the article
would be great to have, and moreover I think a must for the program to get back
on the right track. A former UofU player will be able to help in recruiting and
bringing a winning culture back.GO UTES!