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Randy Hollis: These are the worst of times for Jazz franchise

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  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 5, 2011 1:00 a.m.

    im not sure why no one seems to mention that we own rights to three europeans...that is including Ante Tomic...i dont know much about the other two...but i hope we get to see them play...

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    April 4, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    I'm optimistic about the Jazz future, they have several very talented players to build on. I think we need to give Corbin some time to learn and figure things out. Hayward and Favors have tremendous upsides. Big Al & Milsap are quality players, CJ & Harris have good potential to perform, time will tell.
    I liked what I saw in Weaver, would like to see the Jazz keep him and develop him, I like that he can play the point at 6'6".
    Two lottery picks should add quality talent, we will need to be patient though as all these young players will take time to mature and develop. Plus a rookie coach will need time to develop.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    April 3, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    If the Jazz lose the rest of this year I am not worried about next year.

    They are going to have a very good team which has some experience playing together. They are going to be in a much better financial position and maybe the new CBA will level the playing field to some degree.

    They are going to have 2 lotto picks and money to get at least one decent free agent. They will also have some time to jell.

    The Jazz are going to be good and deep.

    KOC is very good at getting cheap role players who fit the Jazz system.

    My biggest worry is Harris and the outside shooting.

    If Hayward and Favors live up to expectations, Weaver is a find, and the Jazz get 2 lotto picks that is a lot of talent to go with the players under contract/coming back.

    It takes the right combination of players and time to get them all playing well together.

    I actually have some faith in KOC and Corbin. Lets see who they draft and the size of the salary cap.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    April 3, 2011 9:10 p.m.

    I don't go to Jazz games so I don't care if they win or lose. They have never won a championship and they never will. This market will never be able to support a championsip team becuase they just don't have the money for one. They can always be a good team but not a great team. Great teams win championships. Since Karl and John left, we have never made it to the finals. I seriouly doubt it will ever happen again in today's free agent market. Good luck but I wouldn't bet on it. Truth may hurt but it is what it is.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    April 3, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    @458italia--Raja hasn't worked out but you take risks and the Jazz lost on that one--big deal. What's your point anyway? Don't forget your boy Kobe desperately wanted Bell to come play in LA...remember or did you forget that little bit of factual info??

    Oh, italia the only thing Fes did that was wrong was "toss" the basketball at Kobe after fouling him--not cool. He made a couple of hard fouls and was going for ball--watch the tape. The time Kobe drove he knocked his severely degenerative knee against Fess's. That was incidental contact.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 3, 2011 7:14 p.m.

    @Draft Dumbie

    i think there's a pool of excellent SG/SF in the free agency...as well as a solid C with Dalembert...CDR and Caron Butler should be looked into...the Bulls are looking for a SG as well...i think that's the only piece lacking for them...and i like the Chris Kaman trade...on Drafting...i like the prospect of Perry Jones and Jan Vesely...both are 6'11 both play the 3...think about it...if we have a 7 footer at C with Favors or Al Jeff and either Jones or Vesely...that's a pretty tall lineup...the future is definitely bright...im just going to support the team...and i know for sure they'll get back on their winning ways...

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    April 3, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Reasons to be optimistic..........

    CJ Miles averages 18 points a game since being inserted into the starting lineup!!

  • 458italia Draper, UT
    April 3, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    You guys who enjoyed Fesenko doing those deeds on Kobe certainly would not think it was just "Good physical basketball" if Ron Artest did those things to any of the Jazz players. Probably the same people who loved Raja coming back because of the clothesline he put on Kobe all those years ago. How's that Raja thing working out for you now?

  • Ogdenite Lincoln, NE
    April 3, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    The only reason I read articles by Hollis is to count how many times he uses the word "heck." Well heck, he only used the word one time in this article, gosh darn it. That was a fewer than I'd expected, but heck, I knew the word would be in there somewhere. Good work, Hollis. You're a heck of a writer.

  • Dolly Sandy, UT
    April 3, 2011 2:08 p.m.

    Wow! Talk about kicking somebody when they are down...brutal! But most of the posters here on this article are pretty upbeat (thankfully) about the possibilities of next season. We are either loyal fans or we are not. Even the Clippers fans have stuck with them over these past years. We Jazz Fans can at least be that good...ya think??!!??

    Go Jazzboys tonight and what's left of this dreary season. It will get better and the sun is coming out after this big snow storm. Life is good!

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    April 3, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    Other than the Jazz road trip at the first of the season when the Jazz made all those amazing comebacks--which the league will probably never see again--the first half of the Laker's game was the most enjoyable Jazz basketball I have watched for a long time. I especially enjoyed Fez's hard foul on Kobe's shoulder as Kobe went for a lay up, Fes's kneeing Kobe hard in the leg as Kobe tried to drive by Fes, and Favor's block on Kobe's lay up. Fez's and Favor's efforts in frustrating Bynum and Gasol in the first half were also extremely enjoyable. If only Fes had not gotten tired and Favors had not been left out of the game for most of the second half, so they could have maintained that effort for the entire game, it would have made the whole season successful for me, despite the Jazz's meltdown during the second half of the season.

    It would have been similar to those years when either BYU or Utah has had an unsuccessful football season, but they beat up their hated rival in the last game of the season.

  • DixieAggie St.George, Utah
    April 3, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    Now would be a really good time to rally around our very impressive soccer club in Salt Lake. Go Royals!

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    April 3, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    Kolby is still sore from Big-Fezz knocking his wrist, knocking him down hard, chucking the ball at him when he was down and knee-ing him hard in the leg as he went by.

    That is just good physical basketball.

    We have not seen that in Salt Lake much since Malone, Stockton and Harpring left.

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    April 3, 2011 1:04 p.m.

    Another player that may be available in a trade who could help the Jazz is Chris Kaman. The Clippers would probably like to dump him now that they have a much younger and cheaper DeAndre Jordan playing center.

    Players I really like in this year's draft are Derrick Williams and Brandon Knight. The Jazz would have to get a top three pick to get Williams, but Knight should be available for them. Perry Williams is also interesting, but is a more long-term project. There are some other nice players that should be available for the Jazz. The draft should be interesting and exciting for the Jazz this year.

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    April 3, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    The Jazz should be in a "reloading" mode rather than a "rebuilding" mode. If the current Jazz team was completely healthy, it would be the 4th or 5th best team in the West, and 9th or 10th best team in the NBA. Plus, the Jazz have two lottery picks this year, at least one lottery pick next year, and the rights to Ante Tomic.

    I hope the Jazz keep the current team intact as much as possible, replacing only those players for whom it can clearly obtain an upgrade--by draft, trade, or free agent signing. I would like to see the Jazz re-sign Kirilenko, Miles, Watson, Fesenko and Evans, and trade Bell--and perhaps Okur. That would give the Jazz a core of Harris, Miles, Kirilenko, Millsap, Jefferson, Watson, Hayward, Evans, Favors, Fesenko, and perhaps Okur, with a couple of high draft picks.

    Players to consider for trade are Jonny Flynn, O.J. Mayo, Andre Iguodala, Terrance Williams and Ersan Ilyasova. Interesting free agents are Leandro Barbosa (restricted), Jason Richardson, Michael Redd, Chris Douglas Roberts, Mickael Pietrus, Sonny Weems, Caron Butler, Peja Stojakvic, DeAndre Jordan (restricted), Samuel Dalembert, Greg Oden (restricted), and perhaps Eddy Curry or Yao Ming.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    April 3, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    Good comments RV.

    One thing I will add if I may: Fesenko can be tied up for cheap. It doesn't hurt to have him on the roster if they will develop him more. Especially when Kolby and the Lakers come to town.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    April 3, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    Sorry TJ and others that say quit whining:

    If I was a fan that was paying hundreds of dollars each game for a seat, I think I would want the franchise I was supporting with my dollar to put the best quality product out on the floor possible. Not that anything but winning an NBA championship is acceptable, but I would expect a good product. I would expect the players to play hard, I would expect the coaches to be prepared and make solid strategic decisions to win games, and I would expect the management to be capable of evaluating talent and doing the necessary things to acquire this talent.

    Now since the Jazz, who most experts prognosticated would end up in the NBA playoffs this season have failed to do so with one of the most historically half season flops in the history of the NBA, will season tickets be lessened next year? If the payroll is trimmed, will that savings be transferred to the fans that put their butts in the seats?

  • Silly Rabbit Magna, UT
    April 3, 2011 10:32 a.m.

    TJ good comments you are correct we as Jazz fans have become spoiled, its OK for us to take some lumps as fans.

    I think we fans will be pleased with what we see next season!

  • Grampaw44 Palmetto, GA
    April 3, 2011 9:22 a.m.

    That 26-56 year started out with 6 wins and 1 loss, so we certainly did NOT know from the get-go that it would turn out bad. Short memories...

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    April 3, 2011 8:03 a.m.

    Therapy, it does everyone good from time to time........I can recall a great Utah Ute team, they're horrible now, I can remember Jimmer and how all the BYU fans worshiped fake idols and lived in a fantasy land and then came along Sloan, Stockton, Eaton and Malone.......

    Let's hope Jimmer makes it to the Utah Jazz, thats about the one and only place he'll survive in the NBA with the JIMMER JAZZ fanatics in Utah. I'm getting a vision that Utah may be getting another Karl Malone and Mark Eaton....or was it Ostercannot jump 2 inches???

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 3, 2011 3:46 a.m.

    Reasons why I'm optimistic about the future of the Jazz.

    Derrick Favors--Jeremy Evans
    Both Rookies have left highly positive impressions this season.

    Two relatively high draft picks this year (by Jazz standards).

    Memo's contract expires at the end of next season, making him a target for a big time trade.

    AK's a free agent, freeing up money the Jazz need to improve the team. He may re-sign with the Jazz but it will be for a lot less money. If not, he bites on the bigger contract New Jersey is likely to offer and leaves. Though I hope AK stays, either outcome helps the Jazz.

    Gordon Hayward continues to improve and no longer has that "Deer in the Headlights" look.

    Devin Harris is a solid NBA point guard and will get much better at running the team next season.

    Al Jefferson has shown he can score, now if the Jazz can get him to improve his defense.

    Paul Millsap, the experiment with him playing the small forward position might just work out. He'll need time to adapt but if anyone can do it's Paul.

    Corbin's coaching will improve.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    April 3, 2011 12:43 a.m.

    therapy may not be enough for the current players to forget how to lose...

    come to think of it therapy may not be enough for fans to forget what a train wreck this last half of the season has been.

    It is like a high school team playing at the collegiate level where nobody expects the team to win and they do their best not to disappoint.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 3, 2011 12:39 a.m.

    Man; what a bunch of "what have you done for me in the last 2 minutes" mentality "blanks". The Jazz have a bunch of injuries, a new coach, several new players and are having a bad season. Aren't they allowed a bad season once every 10 years on average? Fans are spoiled and the media seem to be chaining cement blocks for the team preparing to throw them into the great salt lake.
    They have 2 lottery picks to use or trade. Kirilenko is gone so they have some money and they have some great young talent. Give them until January next year and we will be enjoying a young, up and coming team that is pretty darn good. Give them support, not a shove up the gallows stairs.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    April 2, 2011 10:31 p.m.

    The pre AD days of the Jazz were pretty ugly so hopefully things don't get that bad...