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Published: Thursday, March 31 2011 3:00 p.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

There are several grammatical errors in this article. Did the Deseret News get rid of all their copy editors when they restructured recently? I've noticed this in many of the articles since the restructure took place.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Wow... all the interesting and controversial info in the article... and all we get is one grammar critic denouncing it?

Silly Rabbit
Magna, UT

Cool story its neat to hear when items like these are found, things of this nature are often not talked about very often. Archeology is a strange buisness as many finds are not shared by the main stream media. If these plates are real it will be interesting to read what is written on them, and even more interesting to see if we ever hear what is on them.

Henderson, NV

Reading this article makes me wonder if any significant archeological finds that are religious in nature can ever be made public for what they really are. They could find the Golden Plates and the Sword of Laban, and they'd still find a way to explain it away. What's the point?

I hope I'm around when Jesus comes back. It will be interesting to hear the explanations from scientists.

Centerville, UT

It sounds like there is a lot of the classic "NIH" (not invented here) going on. I look forward to a follow-on article that might clear things up.

Alex 1
Tucson, AZ

Hmmm, how interesting! Metal plates with a sealed portion. If my memory serves me correct, isn't there some religion out there that claims its scripture to have been translated from metal plates and that it had a sealed portion? ;)

Cedar Hills, UT

Oh but I thought the bible was complete???

Salt Lake City, UT

For Patriot: The Bible is true as far as it is translated correctly.

Knowing that we all keep our own records and journals and diaries means that other people living at the time of Christ did too. More evidence of His existence and work do not lessen our knowledge, but increases it.

South Salt Lake, UT

There are metal plates in early Christianity period.

ex missionary
Sandy, UT

Independent - doesn't the church have the sword of laban in a vault or something? it would be interesting if they let scientists analyze it wouldn't it?

Salt Lake City, UT

I've never seen the plates or hefted them either, but I know they are real.

brookings, SD

What is the sword of laban? Just asking.

Charlottesville, VA

No, ex missionary, you've failed to distinguish between Mormon myths and the actual doctrines of Mormonism. Perhaps that's why you now identify as an "ex."

By the way, isn't it funny that Joseph Smith made up a story about ancient peoples from Jerusalem keeping their religious records on metal plates bound together by rings and sealing portions of them, none of which anyone at the time had ever heard of, and happened to be right? Weird coincidence, I guess.

Layton, UT

Gentile - Read the Book of Mormon and you will quickly find out.

Sugar City, ID

This doesn't prove the Book of Mormon to be true, but ever since the Book of Mormon was first published, the claim about metal plates has been mocked and used as an evidence that the Book of Mormon isn't what it claims to be. Now that other matal plates have been discovered, the mockers will go into denial and say it doesn't mean anything. On another comment board, someone even said that this latest discovery is a hoax put there by Mormons! "The place called Nahom" and "chiasmus" and so many other supporting evidences cause the mockers to go into denial. Their minds are made up. Why confuse them with the facts?

Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: ex missionary

If the sword of Laban were in a vault and if it were to be analyzed by scientists it wouldn't change the testimony of a single believer, and it wouldn't convert a single ex-member.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

It will be interesting to see what the experts are able to figure out. Hopefully they're not forgeries. But the way this world is, there is always that chance. We'll just have to wait and see.

ex missionary
Sandy, UT

Ah, thanks chachi, I was confusing it with the peep stone JS purportedly used to translate the BOM. It was Brigham Young that related an experience about the sword of Laban being in a cavern in Cumorah.

Two other notes -
Myths and doctrines are hard to distinguish in mormonism because, apart from the articles of faith, there is nothing to distinguish the two. Scripture is open to interpretation. Words of the prophets are often later dismissed with the phrase "he was speaking as a man". The content of lesson manuals evolves over time. The Church Handbook of Instructions evolves over time. People often say the gospel doesn't change but ask two mormons to define the gospel and you'll get two different answers.

I'm "ex" because I don't believe in God. Not because of some minutiae of mormon legend but thanks for trying to represent who I am for me in a public forum, I always appreciate that kind of audacity.

Layton, UT

The significance of a find like this is not lost on faithful LDS, but it doesn't really mean much in terms belief. Even if the gold plates were found here in the Americas, and for that matter, the sword of Laban, and the skull of a curelom, and a horse and chariot, or the exact location of the city of Zarahemla--the naysayers will still find a reason not to believe. It is because belief in scripture should never be based solely upon archaeology or for that matter physical evidences. Even spiritual evidence, insights and impressions felt from God, only go so far. Ultimately the ability to believe in scriptures comes with a willingness to believe--an active choice to be open to the possibility of Divine guidance in life.

Though signs and wonders abound, there will always be those who refuse to believe simply because they don't want to. So cherish these days when we don't have evidence. They are days of grace.

Phoenix, AZ

Perhaps these plates are related to the Kinderhook plates.

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