RE: Can't argue with that IndependentCahoon has zero coaching
experience, but he does, like you pointed out, have allot of swagger and
professional panosh to command respect from this field of freshman, red shirt
freshman and returning sophomores that need guidance on the field and off, as
you know these boys can easily get distracted.Lets rise and shout
when we get something to rise and shout about, its a long spring and fall camp
season lets give it room to breath and mature Coug Fans.
By this fall DuPaix will be the most sought after coach in the NCAA. It
wouldn't be suprising if Alabama fired their coach and made a run at DuPaix.
Is there anyone even remotely connected to BYU that is there for the right
reason on in the right spot? Reading some of the posts that are made really
make me wonder if that ever happens.I think all schools look for the best
fit, by the best person, at the time something is available. That includes
players, coaches, instructors, students and the like. So why is BYU the only
one that never seems to get it right according so some posters!? Is life that
lonely that the sun never shines on your parade? How sad? I think Coach
Cahoon has the "experience" of being coached at several levels, having
learned from them to allow his playing success and certainly deserves a chance
to put it to good use! Good Luck BYU and Coach Cahoon. And for me, good
luck to Utah for finding a quality replacement for BB!
Ben should do great. Some people make it sound like he is head coach without any
coaching experience. He is a position coach for crying out loud. He was the best
player at that position in Canada. It should be a great opportunity for him to
learn how to coach. Who knows maybe someday he will work his way up to head
coach somewhere or maybe he will just be a great wide receivers coach. I am
excited for this year!!!Go Cougars!!!
Ben should be able to teach them execution at the highest level, and not to
accept anything less from themselves and to realize they are expected to catch
anything in their area. He did it and this is something these players need to
develop. Any coach, even DuPaix is on a learning curve because BYU
football is a different style. I think Ben will do just fine.
I suspect Hedgehog will win National awards for his journalism skills this year.
From what I've read... how could he not.
Cahoon is a great add for the tds. I'm excited for next year...
Dear Independent: Would you say the same thing if he was Jerry Rice?
He also has no coaching experience. Yes, it is a gamble when ever
you make a new hire. I liked the old wide receivers coach but he didn't have
the credentials that Ben brings. I am sure the interview process was based on
his interpersonal skills, teaching skills and his own teachable attitude rather
than his obvious credentials as an accomplished receiver. Just in this article
his humility jumps out and he is certianly displaying a teachable attitude.Comments out of practice are that he is teaching them fundamental skills at a
postion mastery level and the receivers are seeing a whole new level of
perfecting their skill sets.I appreciate your questions and your comments
though and look forward to more amiable discussions in the future.
"Why would BYU hire Cahoon more for him than for the better of the team?
That doesn't make a lick of sense."Because they like him. They
think he's cool, because he's an awesome Canadian football player and a BYU
alumni. It may be that they hired him because they think he'll be a good coach,
and he may be, but if they were motivated purely by quality of coaching, you
would think they would hire somebody with a proven coaching record. So, if you
look at it objectively, it's a nice opportunity for Ben, and kind of a gamble
for the BYU football program. It might turn out to be a smart gamble, but it's a
gamble none the less.
Flashback"Hopefully he will teach them not to drop balls that
are right in their hands."Not only will he teach them, he'll
demand results, no excuses. Ben almost never dropped a catchable pass during his
career in the CFL, so he's not going buy any excuses for dropped passes. The
more they drop, the more they'll practice until either the balls don't drop, or
they do.Independent"Why do I get the feeling that
offering Ben Cahoon this job was more for Ben and less for the BYU football
program?"Because you're a Utah troll and the better Ben is at
doing his job, the bigger the beatdown in September. See U then.
Hopefully he will teach them not to drop balls that are right in their hands.
Re: IndependentWhy would BYU hire Cahoon more for him than for the
better of the team? That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Why do I get the feeling that offering Ben Cahoon this job was more for Ben and
less for the BYU football program? I'm not saying he couldn't become a good
coach, but the truth is we just don't know. It looks like even Ben admits there
is a huge learning curve. It was nice of BYU to give him a shot. I hope it works
The best coaches are not former players that got by on pure talent/athleticism.
Since Ben was not the tallest or fastest for his position, he had to develop the
desire and work ethic to improve his skills in order to overcome those physical
attributes that he could not change. Guys like that make the best coaches. Think
about this, how often do the most gifted athletes make great coaches? In the
NBA, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, two of the greatest all time, failed as
coaches because they can't relate to those that have lesser talent. I'm not
saying those guys didn't have to work hard at being great players, they are just
so far and above better than their contemporaries that the ability to teach
those skills escapes them. That's why Ben will be a great coach.
There are legitimate questions about how fast Cahoon's assets will overcome his
lack of coaching experience. I believe that his progress will be
astonishing. In many fields, I have observed that a passionate and dedicated
achiever with zero experience will often ramp up with blazing speed and smoke
those with experience. As a long-time fan, I have observed Ben's passion and
dedication and believe this is part of his character.I also am
excited by Ben's knowledge of how to succeed even if you aren't the biggest or
fastest. BYU typically gets second tier recruits. Ben is the perfect guy to
teach good players how to outperform gifted but less refined competitors. Bronco and company have it right. Don't obsess about getting 4 star
recruits. Focus on a team culture and training that makes 5 star team
performance. It may be that you can do more with a lesser talent who is willing
to work and cooperate than a greater one constrained by ego. Ben is
a perfect fit.
I suspect Cahoon will win National awards for his coaching this year. From what
I've read... how could he not.
Bronco has done a fantastic job with his offensive coaching staff. I believe the
receivers and tight ends will be very much improved. Spread it around so
defenses will not be able to key on a few things. BYU will score a lot more
points the first half of the season this year. On top of that, their defense
will be stronger than they ended last year.
Frozen Chosen Cahoon's coaching/teaching skills may need some
refinement, but there's no question about his football knowledge. Ben is the
leading receiver in CFL history and he brings a wealth of experience and
knowledge with him. Ben was famous for almost never dropping a catchable pass.
Dropping passes and running imprecise routes will not be tolerated by Ben. With the added benefit of working on route timing and consistent
delivery from the same quarterback all summer and through fall practice, dropped
balls will not be a problem this season.
Didn't think I would see it when I turned to the comments on his article but
there is not a Troll in sight.Bugoff- I gave you a recommend
because you asked legit questions about the Utah offense. Respectful, no name
calling and reasonable questions. Thank you. But maybe a little off topic for
this thread.Frozen Chosen: Don't worry about Cahoon. He is a
great guy and good one on one personality. He will be fine. Can't agree with
you more about Reynolds. He is a great Tight ends coach. Has taught All
American wide receivers before. Things will be much improved over last year.
I hope Cahoon figures it out quickly. We had our rebuilding year last year and
can't afford any more growing pains. Heaps will only be as good as his
receivers. There's a big difference between being a good player and being a
good coach - I hope Ben can make the transition or we're in for a long year.I am confident that coach Reynolds will do a great job with the tight
ends and get that group back on track so if we can get the receivers playing to
their potential we'll be running on all cylinders with our seasoned running
backs and offensive line.
I really like the fact (presentation?) that Cahoon wasn't the greatest because
he was the most gifted. He worked hard at his art, perfecting skills and honing
every aspect to produce an edge on the defender that he obviously became very
proficient at exploiting.If he can teach those same advantages, and
our recievers can learn them, then I do see a return to the glory years, and
yes, possibly even better. What made Nielson, Wilson, McMahon, Young, Boscoe,
Detmer, et al so exquisite where receivers that created space and caught
everything that was close, and most of what wasn't quite that close.Man those were good days! Bring them on again!
To Bugoff. The answer is no.
PSUYB, Munns is still on the team, but is the fourth QB. He'd be a starter in
80% of the D1 schools. I wish they would give Lark and Munns more reps. I see
one of them as the backup. Riley is our wildcat QB that we should use 5 or 6
plays a game, not our backup. His style is too different. I think with more
reps, Munns would get the edge on Lark just because of his size.Heaps to Hoffman, Jacobsen and Apo is like a dream team. Is there another
football team that has as much potential as this quartet? With the solid O line
and respetable backfield, this team will put a lot of points on the scoreboard
Last year the WRs and TEs were the biggest weakness on the team. I am sure that
Coach Cahoon will improve the situation. If that problems fixes then BYU is
formidable on offense. If it does not fix then they are not much better than
last year. The Utes are dumping the spread for the pro set. That
means they will have a difficult time especially early next year. They may have
a pro set QB but the rest of the team is basically spread. The two styles do not
mix. TX tried to go from the spread to the I last year and found
that in spite of 4 and 5 star recruits they were not the right type of players
for the I formation even if the QB was. The Pro set may work for the
Utes in the long run and may be necessary for the PAC. However Chou said if they
were a good spread team they would run the spread and they had to find that out
quickly. They do not appear to be a "good spread team". Are they a good Pro Set team? Will they be by the BYU game?
I love Cahoon's attitude. He's humble but shows his stuff. As someone learning
to coach (a different sport, yes, but still coaching) and making tons of
mistakes as I go along, it's nice to see some perspective and know that there
are other coaches out there learning. Although I'm sure Cahoon has grown far
faster than I have in the time he's been at BYU.
What a great guy, and I am sure will become a legendary coach.With a
stable of very talented WR's to work with, Coach Cahoons impact will be seen
very early in the season I think. I am especially excited to see what
Ross Apo brings to the offense this season. ESPN's Bruce Feldman named Apo #6
on his top 10 Impact Redshirt Freshman for 2011. And the fact he was committed
to Texas, and then de-committed to be a Cougar says everything. Can't wait to see what Hoffman, Jacobson, and Apo do under the direction of a
master of the receiving art. There is nobody better to learn from then Ben
Cahoon.Any news of Chambers being back with the team? And is Jason Munns
still with the team? I have not heard anything about him.Looking
forward to a breakout 2011 season! All on National HD television!