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Published: Saturday, March 26 2011 10:47 p.m. MDT

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scenic view
Baltimore, MD

I wonder what the Colorado writers had to say about Colorado moving to the PAC 12. Seems a bit hypocritical to be whining about Utah going to the PAC 12, when their own neighborhood school did the same.

Craig Thompson almost single-handedly drove BYU out of the MWC with his lame television contract.

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

Very good records for both BYU and Utah in the MWC, but after all of the bluster we've heard about the superiority of Utah basketball, it's a little surprising to see that BYU had a much better record during their 12 years in the MWC.

BYU 276-116(70.4%) overall, 126-54(70.0%) MWC, 6 MWC titles, 8 NCAA tournaments
UoU 230-150(60.5%) overall, 104-76(57.8%) MWC, 5 MWC titles, 6 NCAA tournaments

Overall, Utah lead the head-to-head 13-14, but BYU won 9 of the last 10.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

It's been comical to see the reaction from fans of the remaining MWC schools froth and bark about how BYU betrayed them, the very same fans who've loved to hate BYU and who've never missed an opportunity to bait and bash the school, its players, and especially its fans. I see the WCC with its religiously sponsored schools as a step up. If the Cougars never play in Laramie, Ft. Collins, or at New Mexico or SDSU again, it will be too soon for me.

Dick, talk to the powers that be, and help us get rid of that ridiculous "cougar on the mountain" logo and bring back the cougar on the block-lettered BYU that worked so well for so long.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

This article almost makes it sound as if Thompson is sad to see BYU leave, and they tried their hardest to allow the TV contract to conform to BYU's demands. I doubt it's true.

The TV negotiations probably have some truth to it, and if it's true, the mtn will pay the consequence. The mtn will suffer in two ways: 1) Although they gained Boise State, which will draw some viewers, they lost most of the whole Utah market and some BYU fans in other states, making a big drop in mtn subscriptions; and 2) The incoming teams will realize how bad the contract really is and try to get out of it asap.

The mtn could maybe salvage the wreck a little bit by renegotiating, but the damage to the state of Utah has already been dealt. Without the mtn BYU is now free to conduct its own business, and it has the ability to do so.

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

viva la Pac 12

OU812
Layton, UT

Actually, they already moved on, maybe you should too.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

It'll be interesting to see if Utah basketball has more success in the PAC 12 than TCU basketball has in the Big East.

gottscheer
APO, AE

I don't see this as a bad thing for the MWC or for BYU and Utah. We will now see who is right in the war of words that the Utah schools have been carrying the rest of the MWC schools on their backs. Probably, to some extent they have, but I don't think the conference is loosing as much as the Utah schools think. Utah is getting a great deal, but she will soon learn that she will now be a very small fish in very big pond. BYU on the other hand will going to a conference that doesn't have much of a reputation, except for basketball, and will have to raise the respect of the conference on there backs. BYU football independence will be a lot harder than the Cougars think.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

So long fuzzy mtn. network.

HELLO Cougars in HD!

Utah'95
FPO, AE

WA_Alum&Dad,

If you are tired of others "baiting and bashing BYU, its players, and especially its fans," then I recommend you reconsider the tone of your posts.

History indicates that BYU has been very successful in collegiate athletics for decades. Rubbing people's noses in it comes across as arrogant and/or insecure.

Laser
Iowa City, IA

Thompson is demonstrated very poor leadership. If he was concerned about the breach of contracts for TV he would have done a lot more than give up after "no returned" phone calls. When a contract is broken, it's broken and you have a ton of recourse.

He never put up a fight and now his conference is in shambles. There is nobody to blame but himself.

Dyer Gary
Bountiful, UT

seems like we have more byu fans than utah fans writing comments.

CaliforniaCougar
Lake Elsinore, CA

And how is this a bad deal for The Mountain when they are basically going from 0 viewers to 0 viewers. I don't know anyone here in California that was able to pick up that channel.

KamUte
South Jordan, UT

BYU is better off now that Utah and TCU are gone. You don't have a really strong hoops conference but the WCC has some great cities with good weather. No more Laramie, Albuquerque. Huge plus.

Football will pay off.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

All I've got to say to the whiners is... Start bringing bring your own lunch money...you bummed off of BYU, Utah and TCU so much you have forgotten what it's like to actually earn your own way. And as for Craig Thompson...I hope the rest of the remaining members get up enough courage to finally stand up to him and vote him out as commissioner. If they don't then they're not going anywhere as a conference.

Common-Tator
Saint Paul, MN

@Riddles

Thanks much for the data you provided. It looks much more plausible. I wondered a bit about the records in the original article, as Utah was shown playing 90 more conference games than BYU. I'd also be interested to know BYU's total record, as 1,608 + 32 is not 1,650. (Dick, need to get someone on the staff to help scrub the background research, or at least do a quick proof-read, ala "Reality" on 'Pardon the Interruption'!)

Definitely concur on the MWC's difficulty reference the TV contracts, and what were perhaps disingenuous comments by writers outside of Utah reference Utah and/or BYU leaving the conference. Could it be, "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"?!

DH48
West Jordan, UT

The truth is that if it weren't for the horrible TV contract things really were improving in the MWC. The addition of Boise State gave the conference so much in football and the quality of play in basketball has been moving up. The conference was gaining respect and moving forward.

But you can't blame Utah for jumping to the PAC 12 and automatic exposure. You can't blame BYU for doing something that will bring in much more money and exposure for them. Things change and so we all move on.

Good luck to all of the schools involved.

estreetshuffle
Window Rock, AZ

It is an excellent opportunity for other programs in MWC to shine. There are some excellent programs from the other MWC that can flourish and have outshined BYU and Utah and can shine even more. I will continue to watch the mountain channel even though i am a byu fan. i am also a fan of UNM and AF and will continue to attend their games as well as byu games. the was need for the top three teams to depart because the mwc was top heavy. look at UNM were dominate over byu in basketball and track and cross country but did not get recognition. primarily i am a byu fan at heart but a change was needed so the other teams (with good programs) to flourish.

RR_Xing
San Diego, CA

The MWC will not miss BYU and Utah nearly as much as the WAC will!

Honor Code
Denver, Colorado

"MWC will sorely miss BYU and Utah"????

Hardly!!! But what can you expect from arrogance???

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