@HelloooFavors is a PF...that means...Al Jeff would play C...CJ is
better at the two...but i agree...fes is not worth it...and Jimmer is not the
best college player...in my opinion...its a toss up between derrick williams and
Kyrie Irving...but i do agree that its a draft of a lot of possible role/key
players...not necessarily franchise...
i have always been a jazzfan...even the post stockton-malone era...sloan used to
get a lot from his players...i mean...look at the line up when we had danny
manning donnyel marshall and even jon starks...its going to take us a while to
get back on our feet...the Jazz have been a model of consistency...the only
problem is...the recent Jazz teams never really dominate...but still i enjoy
watching them...and would still support them through thick and thin...that's
what being a fan is about...im still optimistic about the Jazz future...because
we have solid pieces to build upon...its not like we have nothing...i would
really like for the jazz brass to deal harris...for Felton...if they do get
felton...i hope they draft vessely and Jonas...Jonas would be the aggressive
defensive big we would like (yeah...he is pretty aggressive for a european) and
vessely could be a matchup nightmare at the three...that makes Al Jeff play at
the 4...millsap coming of the bench with AK...CJ starting at the 2..and felton
manning the point...
What bothers me about this team is the following:There are 11 games
left. I do not hear a player on the Jazz saying it's playoff time now for us.
We need to treat the next 11 games as though it is the playoffs.What
I am hearing is: We need to get better. Hopefully we can play better tonight.
We need to turn this around. Perhaps we will get back on track.Come
on......The Jr. Jazz team is more positive than you guys.
When Jimmer is the best player in college ball and Sullinger at OSU is the best
big, you know the draft this year at best will be marginal for NBA talent.
Contributors, but no "franchise" types. So, play to get to the
playoffs and develop for the future by starting a defensive center (Elson or
Favors) with Jefferson and CJ, add Hayward at the two and with Harris injured
start Watson and sub Price with AK, Milsap, Bell and Favors, Elson as a second
unit. Sorry Fez fizzed
The more I think about this season, the more I think that the Jazz have a quest
to get 3 first round picks this year, instead of making the playoffs. I remember
when we got lucky and drafted D-Will, hopefully we can pull some high caliber
talent out of this draft class. Either way, the future is bright.GO JAZZ!
Chicago has not been significant since the Jordan days back when Utah had
Stockton and Malone. It took them all these years to build a team back to
championship level or even playoff level. During those lean years, the Jazz
were in the playoffs another 10 times.Now it's time for Utah to tear
the team down, save some money and build it back up with young talent. The
rebuilding could be done in two years, not 10 years.It's time for
Millsap or Jefferson to hit the road. Can't win with both of them starting
together. Time for Memo to retire. Time for AK to go play for New Jersey where
he will never see the ball.This team will be rebuilt around Harris,
CJ, Favors and some new faces. Jefferson and Millsap are not the players to
build around as they can not defend in the NBA.
"Jazz aren't giving up on playoffs" This statement is future
tense, The problem is past tense.They have already given up. It is
painfully obvious whenever they play.When I say they have given up, I mean
from the Top down. Starting with the Millers.It' painful to be a Jazz fan
in Southern California.
If you don't believe the Jazz have tanked, watch a few more games. Corbin won't play the people that would make a difference so how can they win?
Im tired of the Jazz just being an ok team. We want a championship we want to
see a team like the 1997 or 1998 Jazz. So we get a few good draft picks but will
they just turn out to be like Williams take us to a Conference Final and then
move on? The Jazz are done for the next couple of seasons.
There's no way they'll make the playoffs with how they've been playing, and with
injuries to a lot of their key guys. Let's see how this team looks next year,
with healthy players, hopefully two promising rookies from the draft, and a team
that has been through a training camp together and knows the system.
this is how it is, we will really have fun draft day as we will get t.jones with
the hight pick and with our 12th pick will be fun watching the brass get jimmer
somehow with the second lottery pick and get tomic and we will have a ausome
team next year with no injuries as we have had them all this year. we would lose
all four playoff games with our injuries so best to have the high second pick
and if we mad the playoffs we would lose the pick to minn. thanks.
Oh really? still trying to make a playoffs? I thought Jazz tanked season and
decided not to play their best player. Need some excuse maybe.
Houdini & CJMiles: I don't think either one of want to abandon ship, sharing
opinions and exchanging comments and ideas is too much fun. Especially when your
getting too old to do anything else. I don't really think CJMiles(Dallas) is
very old but Houdini is probably getting up there. Personally, I'm 60 and it has
been several years since I've been able to play any hoops, so golf is the sport
of choice now, especially now that it is warming up. The Jazz organization has
spoiled us in some ways, as they have been able to keep a winning, competitive
team for us to enjoy for a long time. Everyone needs to take a deep breath and
have patience. KOC is trying to do a good job and he has lot of good pieces to
build on. Let's just try to enjoy it.
Guys,dn won`t post my comment,but it has to do with Jazz management selling
out,I think you can figure it out,hint...Florida Marlins
You guys actually think that Corbin would insert Favors into the starting lineup
over Sap....Really?The season was shot once they traded away Deron.
This isnt the same team. Its a bunch of new guys who came into the season having
to learn a new offensive scheme, learn what other players tendencies are (where
they like the pass, spacing, and chemistry) and than they have a roster change
mid season and they have to go through the same things they did at the beginning
of the season. You cant expect a playoff push when the team was in
training camp mode mid season. Denver is thriving right now because they got
back veteran players who know how to play in a system that isnt read oriented as
the flex like Utah runs. Defensively is where the Jazz need the most
improvement. The guys out there dont trust each other when it comes to help
defense. If you leave your man to help your team mate someone has to help the
HELPER not leave his man wide open for a 3.
Houdini....If you leave, I will have to leave too. I only come on here to see
you!!Who quit the team this year? SloanDwillAny you wonder why this team is all messed up!! The two leaders quit.
Losers in my eyes. I don't care how bad it was for Jerry. Pull up your pants
and do your job. Dwill is a big baby. Wasn't getting his way so he quit
too.I agree that Corbin is Jerry Jr. Can't make a decision on his
own. Coaches just like Jerry. Too afraid to bench Millsap for Favors. Would
rather lose every game than change up the front line who can't defend a 6' guard
driving to the hoop.Time for Corbin to go. He is not head coach
material in the NBA.Time for Millsap to go or for AJ to go. Can't
keep them both. Neither can defend.
Even with everything that has happened this year, the Jazz aren't that far from
actually making the playoffs. If you look at the teams above them and their
remaining schedules, it appears that Denver (47 wins, estimate), Portland (43-44
wins, estimate) and Memphis (43 wins, estimate) are all probably in the
playoffs, with New Orleans, Houston, Phoenix and Utah all fighting for that last
spot. However, all of the last 6-7 teams--even Portland and Memphis--have
pretty tough remaining schedules, so anything could happen. 42 wins probably
gets one of those last four teams in--New Orleans, Houston, Phoenix or Utah--but
its possible that none of those four teams will get to 42 wins, based on their
remaining schedule. Based on the Jazz's remaining schedule, they most likely
will win only 4 more games. If something happens, and they can win an
additional two games, for 6 wins total out of the remaining 11, they could still
make the play offs--and if they could win 7 games they are virtually a lock for
the playoffs.However, realistically, they will probably win only 4
more games--giving them the 12th pick in the draft.
Houdini: I hope you don't pack up and leave, and I don't think the Millers will
give up on the team that fast. The new CBA will hopefully help the small market
teams and make things more competitive.It is discouraging to have your
team struggle but that is part of life, we all have to deal with ups and downs
and the Jazz are rebuilding now and everyone has to be patient and hope for the
best. I find that there are alot of fans that have very little patience. The
Jazz/KOC has put alot of nice pieces together and if Favors, Hayward and Miles
can step up along with Big Al, Paul and Harris (or his replacement) this team
will be OK. We'll have to see if Corbin can be as tough and competitive as Sloan
was, questionable but we need to give him some time. He's got some good players,
hopefully some leadership can immerge and chemistry develop.
The Jazz are a typical lottery team at this point. I can't fathom the continued
message board comments about the Jazz contending for anything but a lottery
pick. This is the decline mode after the slow rise which culminated in the two
Stockton-Malone title games in 1997-1998 seasons. All you band wagon fans who
apparently are bailing and looking around at other teams to root for, and say
you were always a "Laker" fan or now a "Miami" or a
"Chicago" or a "Boston" fan makes me sick. Stick with the
Jazz and realize in this current world of "Have Gun Will Travel" NBA,
it is only going to get worse going forward. I will always be a Jazz fan as
long as they are in Utah. I grew up in the Los Angeles area, so I naturally
became a Laker fan when they moved from Minneapolis in the 1950's. When I
relocated to Utah in 1972 I became a Utah Stars fan, and then a Jazz fan when
the Jazz relocated from New Orleans. Abandoning the Jazz in not in the cards
for me or any other loyal fan. Hang in there Jazz fans.
The jazz just need to tank the rest of the games this season so they can get two
top 10 picks in the draft...their core of guys (Harris, mil sap, jefferson,
Hayward, favors) are very solid and if the jazz can get two solid rookies then
they'll have a bright future! I think they need to let ak and price go at the
end of the season and hopefully they can draft either Irving or walker for point
and maybe Harrison barnes too....all in all in has been a crazy year and Im
ready for a fresh start.
Old Houdini has been thinking...might be time to move on.After 25 years a Lakers
fan,over 30 a Jazz fan,I think I`m done,it`s been fun rattling your
cages,especially miles,capt and golfboy the newbee. Make you`all a deal,send
Millsap and AK down to Oak City(it`s alot closer than SLC anyway) and I`m
gone...deal??? anyway I don`t like the direction this team is going and if
Kakashi is right,in 3-5 years OKC and Portland will be at the top.Actually I
think this franchise will fold it`s tent and be gone within 3 years
Corbin is defending the small, out of position, defenseless, front line of
Jefferson and Milsap. Jerry was dead wrong on using this lineup and Corbin is
apparently lost on his own and reverting to Jerry's philosiphies to try and get
The way they are playing and coaching I thought they all ready did give up on
the season. If thats not true then they are really bad.
I agree Jazz-Nation , I have been happy with Watson's effort, but Bell is washed
up. Just hope all players that go on the court have a red go and be proud to
wear the Jazz uniform. 2 things I do ask to do is protect the ball (minmise
turnovers) and rebound , rebound.
I'm dissapointed with the quality of bball we are seeing because this is still a
70 mill roster, but i am giving them a pass this year because of all the
turnover, still 70 mill+, you'd think they'd make the playoffs regardless.they have the pieces but there are major chemistry issues, and fixing them
isn't as easy as just taking someone out of the lineup, we have a code here in
utah that must be followed, and some traditions should be followed especially if
they allow us to see some humanity in this business. One thing sloan showed is
that loyalty pays off in the end, even if it may seem ridiculous, you don't take
a starting job away from someone who has worked with much passion to get where
he's at. Corbin must take better control of the playbook, he must establish
what jazz bball is, if it's what we saw the last two games i'm passing.
I can't see this game ending in anything but a blowout. OKC is very very good.
Elite.Hopefully Hayward, Evans, and Fes get some much needed minutes
Watson has backed his mouth up with his play on the floor, something I hope all
Jazz players can do. Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk. Talk is
cheap, we all can say the right things and maybe say them at the right moment
too, but we all know that actions speak louder than words. Show and prove Jazz!
Some guys like Raja Bell for example, talk a main course but their best play is
a cold hordurves. Sad but true. Odds are stacked against you right now Jazz, how
will you respond?