If I implied that I wanted college coaches to get invoked that isn't what I
meant because we are back to the politics. I meant a college coach either wins
games or ends up like the Utah coach. They have 3 or 4 scholarships a year to
give. Those that get them are the best, looking at scholarship offers and
school size help rate the athlete. famous dad, mom, brother or sister will get
you more looks even scholarships. Having coaches vote on the best players is
about the same as having media and coaches vote on who is the best football
team. I am a fan of all the girls. Have been since my daughters played. I
wish the girls had more fans that filled the stands. I also wish I was young
enough to have a daughter still playing. I remember you had a problem with that
girl or her parents in another article sportsdude. I am a closet fan of that
girl because she left the fold to go to Skyline and my friends would be mad. two
scholarship offers puts her on my first team.
I have no idea if the DN stats are accurate or not but that is all most if not
all coaches have. I hope your friend had the integrity not to participate in
the trading/blackballing garbage and made a stand. I don't think getting
college coaches involved in high school recognition is feasible, no. The thing
is, how do you educate those making the decisions on the college coaches
opinion. Case in point, two of the five D-1 coaches in this state have stated
that Wasatch's Mike Brown is the best all around basketball player in the state
right now. But do you think his high shooting percentage 20 ppg (with two
teammates in double figures) in 3A, defensive prowess, assists, steals, rebounds
were weighed against Daddy Corbin's boy's 25 ppg in 5A? Not even considered for
one moment I bet. But it's not worth losing sleep over.
GBBFan - you must be a fan (or dad) of the last player on your first team. She
was not on anyone's first team besides your.Please don't take away
the accomplishment of the girls that made the first team list with your
jealousy. At the end of the day - the ones that work the hardest
and don't change their stripes to make it easier for the child are the ones that
deserve the accolades.
@WeberCatBasketballFan are you actually thinking that the stats the Deseret news
has are accurate other that the total points. I know they are not. ppg doesn't
mean anything without apg. Guards bring the ball down and a post will only get
the ball if it is passed to them. I actually have a very close contact that is
a coach and I know that barters happen. If a girl isn't good at
high school there isn't any D1 schools offering her scholarships. Having an all state team based on college scholarship is no more silly that an
all state team based on a vote/barter of coaches or the trib using intermountain
hoops to help with theirs.If your fine with the paper picks great.
If you think a list based on college is silly so what. That is the beauty of
polls everyone can find one that they like. Any girl that preforms at the top
level will leave no doubt and college coaches will reward her with the end goal.
Here is what I've noticed from year to year. The SLTrib picks their teams
largely on what they see at the state tournament because they really don't have
that broad of prep coverage. The D-News tends to pick largely based on stats
(they put in some effort to collect stats) BUT also how well a player's team did
at the state tournament and how the player performed. Coach votes are also based
on what they see at the tournament to some degree because they don't play
against every team. I don't doubt there is some politicing that goes on and some
personal preference by the editor.I still have to say, "So
what?" So some newspaper blew it and forgot to mention a deserving girl. It
happens a lot. And if your girl's whole universe revolves around whether or not
she is chosen as an all-stater or a first teamer by the opinion of some sports
editor, she is kind of missing the point of playing the great game of
basketball. If that is her end goal, she's better perform at a level that leaves
@GBBFan That is just silly. First of all the "conspiracy theory"
type assumption that coaches do that. I once heard a psychologist say that
"people who are suspicious that others are doing certain things is because
they themselves would practice or consider practicing such things
themselves." But most importantly, this is not college, this
is high school. This is not about potential or what potential some college
coach thinks they have or will be able to work with. This is about how they
perform now, against one another, during this high school season. You simply
cannot name a forward with 4 points and less than one rebound per game or 16
points and less than one rebound per game above a forward with 18 points, 8
rebounds, 2.5 steals per game... all delivered in the same classification
against many of the same opponents. Wait, can we assume those 18 points were
scored with twice as many shots as the 16 points... we have no idea so let's
So you left out one part superdude where the high school coaches call around to
each other making deals for votes and blackballing others. here is my
list for 5A done by college scholarships, anyone know any other girls with
scholarships or offers; 1st TeamWhitney Johnson New Mexico with many
offersMarquelle Funk Southern UtahXojian Harry BYU with 2 other
offersMakenzi Morrison BYUGrace Farnsworth UtahBritney Martin
decommitted Utah had 3 offersMiquelle Askew offers from USU and UVU2nd teamBrooke Slade USU-College of Eastern UtahMikail
Burningham Northwest College
@Lone Peak High School Fan The two forwards on the first team averaged 17 and
18 points and 11 and 8 rebounds respectively. Not 16 points and 1 rebound.
Rebounds (possessions) are a key necessity for a forward.
RMK, what did you mean by Sportdude Terry? My name is Terry and I live in
Draper, UT, and my daughter plays hoop, but I am not Sportdude, so this is
probably someone different than you think it is.
WeberCatBasketballFan Grace Farnsworth going to Utah a Pac 12 school not on the
list. Sorry sportsdude Terry no girls playing this year. There are some
Bingham Girls on the list.
Rmk I am interested in knowing about and following the career of Utah high
school athletes. Which girls that didn't make the all state team have D1
rmk - sounds like someone's daughter didn't get what daddy wanted for her.
Sorry but all the girls on all the list were voted by other coaches in their
classifications. Basically, the HC of the team they play for put out a list and
the other coaches vote on those kids turned in. Votes are counted and that is
how the list is made. I am sorry that your little girl didn't do enough in
front of other coaches to get their vote. What you are accusing the coaches of
is embarrassing. Most of the girls on the first and second team will probably
be playing college ball somewhere (if they want to) - they all have tremendous
skill and most of all drive to get on this list. Please do not sell them short
with your small minded remarks. Great job girls.
proudmineralum the people with the envoy is the girls on the list that have no
scholarship and will be lucky to get invited to a junior college tryouts. The
girls not on the list or low on the list with D1 scholarship offers will be
playing in college while many on this list will be watching with their coaches
that had enough pull with Debbie to put them as all-stater.
Makenlee Williams and Brittney Martin are both juniors. They are both awesome
basketball players and incredible people. Congrats to all the MVP's - girl's
basketball isnt what it used to be! :)
Sounds like someone is green with envy, eating some serious sour grapes!
Lone Peak High School Fan - no she's not! Did you read the paper - if she were
1st team she would be on page D6. I think I saw her on D7.
I love how you have the ppg but that number is worthless without the attempts
per game. Someone hogging the ball all game getting 20 points a game and
hitting only 30% isn't that impressive vs someone hitting 80% and 15 ppg.
Funk is first team and we all know it
Can we get a filter so we can see what girl have college scholarships and which
one don't. That way we can see which girls college coaches think are the best
vs which girls high school coaches are pushing so they can say their team has X
many all state players on their team.
I believe Makenlee Williams from Syracuse is a JR not a SR. She will be
returning next year along with Martin. Congrats to all the girls!! Girls
basketball has come such a long way!!!