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Published: Sunday, March 20 2011 10:11 p.m. MDT

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windsor
City, Ut

cliff--"...teaching you to embrace the spiritual truth that emanates from the Holy Ghost...while being relatively unperturbed by the few who think the Gospel is about trying to legitimize ones self-aggrandizing perspective that they would have you believe is sanctioned by the Lord."

WELL SAID.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Arguably it would be much more accuaret to say Elder Lozano is preparing to "teach in Spanish" than to "speak Spanish." This may not be how people talk about the issue but it would more accuarately convey what is going on.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

EWCTs comments about how the missionaries are probably teaching "weirdos" probably illustrate the real reason baptisms are down. With the attitude that other people are weird and one should not have to associate with them, who would want to join the Church?

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Higv,
The rules about missionaries eating in menber homes are usually at the discretion and direction of the mission president, which in general means he will consult with his counselors on the matter. There is no churchwide policy because the situations and needs in each mission are different.

Independent
Henderson, NV

Why would you let your mission president, a companion, other missionaries, or anybody else determine whether or not you enjoy your mission? I didn't particularly like my first mission president. I had a companion who hated my guts because I was an American. Most of the food I ate was just barely edible. But I had the time of my life on my mission. I'd go back in a heart beat. I wouldn't trade the friends I made and the service I was able to give, or the love I received in return for anything. You have to take the bad with the good to fully enjoy this life.

mecr
Bountiful, UT

After reading these comments, it is amazing what a difference a mission president can make. I still remember the comments from some missionaries (I used to feed them every week) talking about why they miss the just returned home mission president. I always told them to remember this is the Lord's work althought I would had liked to say that to the mission president!

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

President Spencer W. Kimball was once asked why two different people in the same meeting can have totally different impressions of the talks presented with one having a wonderfully spiritual experience and the other not feeling the spirit at all and coming away empty. His response was that when we are placed in a position to feel the spirit it is up to each of us to be ready and to be receptive. If we don't feel the spirit, when someone has prepared diligently and been guided by the spirit in what they say it is our own fault.

So it is with missionaries. Those who are inspired by the MTC and grow from the experience go in with the right attitude and spirit. Those who don't weren't ready. My son is coming to the end of his mission and has had wonderful experiences at every turn. He loved the CTM (MTC in Brazil) and has loved each of his two mission presidents. I know there have been difficult times for him, but his attitude has always carried him through.

man of few words
SALT LAKE CITY, ut

I think it's easy to judge those who did not have the kind of experience WE want them to have had. There must be something wrong with THEM. I disagree. There is nothing wrong in admitting that parts of an experience were hard and not enjoyable.

Look at Fresno Girl. Anyone who reads the sports boards will tell you that she has about the most positive attitude possible. All of her black clouds have silver linings. All except this one, that is. That to me says a lot. I can't imagine being surrounded by openly hostile people all day for 2 months and not having a hard time.

She says her experience is not unique. I have known many returned Sister missionaries. The pretty ones usually say the same things about their missions. While they loved being in the field, they hated being in the MTC. The reason is always the same as well, the Elders in their districts were unkind to them. I don't know how this can be improved. But I don't think we should blame the Sisters for not having a great MTC experience as a result. We should be more Christlike.

cliff
Blossom, UT

In The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, President Kimball discusses ones individual responsibility to feel the spirit in the specific context of sacrament worship services. He chastises those who will only attend a sacrament meeting when the speaker is eloquent, etc. He says worship is an individual matter that must come from within. It seems that President Kimball was speaking directly about worship services, not whether or not someone had a good experience in the MTC over a 4-8 week period. Interestingly, when speaking specifically about the context of marriage, President Kimball said that an abusive husband should not be honored in his priesthood". Although this is in the context of marriage, it seems like a far leap from telling the victim that if they felt abused that they were probably not prepared spiritually and that it is their own fault. Although it is wonderful to hear that your children had such wonderful experiences in the MTC, I imagine that parents with children whose experience was not that wonderful may have a different take. The day may come when you have a different take as well.

Heathcliff Barnes
Roy, UT

The LDS Church has developed first rate missionary training centers across the world that excel in teaching the Gospel and foreign languages to numerous missionaries. If nothing else, this series of articles is demonstrating how much care the Church puts into instructing its missionaries and helping them learn Gospel truths and a foreign language in an environment that is conducive to the presence of the Holy Ghost. If learning the Gospel and acquiring a second language were simply a matter of ones individual perspective and spiritual maturity, why is the Church going to such great lengths to develop the most conducive environment possible? Why not just throw a bunch of missionaries into a room and say: if you learn something you are spiritually prepared, but if you do not learn, then it is your own fault and all of the parents who have had kids think they succeeded should feel justified in pointing their fingers of scorn at you. The fact is that not everyone is treated with dignity and respect and sometimes deep spiritual wounds can result (especially when this experience is concentrated into 8 intense weeks during a key spiritual growth period).

JSB
Sugar City, ID

My one week in the mission home was worthwhile. My mission was 2 years of adjusting and growing and making mistakes and helping others. It wasn't the happiest two years of my life, but it was the most important two years. Now, nearly 50 years later, there hasn't been a day go by that I haven't thought of that experience.

kosimov
Riverdale, UT

Beat this! Joined in 1967, MTC 1968, scared to death. My fiance' convinced me to take discussions, vowed to wait. First area was a nightmare; almost went home, similar to President McKay's experience. After 8 months sent home for surgery, then returned to mission field. Ex-fiance' married day I entered hospital. So much for young girl's promises!!

Enjoyed rest of my mission most of all; worked with Celestial candidates! Eventually, went home again; infections and complications from first surgery (doctor was on drugs and alcohol etc. botched the surgery and left me sterile; in fact, I had what next doctor called "chemo therapy intensity antibiotics", which was very difficult. I was miserable and depressed beyond belief.

Vietnam had reduced many missions to 18 months (complaints Mormons using missions to dodge draft -- false!), so I was released since I'd served long enough. I'd met future wife at end of mission; dated at BYU, married in 6 months.

Oldest son didn't serve mission; other three did. Not to worry, though; President Monson didn't serve a mission but the Lord seems to like him OK. If you didn't serve, STOP WORRYING!

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