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Published: Wednesday, March 16 2011 11:29 a.m. MDT

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luart
Smithfield, Utah

Why is everything always about BYU? US News ranked the Emma Eccles Jones College of Education and Human Services at Utah State University 29th in the nation overall against all graduate colleges of education. The college was also ranked fifth in the nation in total research dollars received by a college, with faculty and staff securing $33.1 million in funded research dollars. Two programs in the Department of Special Education and Rehabilitation were also ranked: Rehabilitation Counseling ranked 9th in the nation and the Special Education graduate program was ranked #17 among all special education programs. This marks the 12th consecutive year the college has made it on the list and is the only program in Utah this year to secure a place in the top 50!

carman
Alpine, UT

BYU has been rising in the rankings for years. It is now solidly in the second tier of national universities for an undergraduate education, approaching the top tier for its graduate business program (top 40 by most measures), and a solid second tier law school.

BYU is now clearly the intermountain west's top nationally recognized academic institution. Its students get into top tier graduate programs from coast-to-coast at remarkably high rates, and its graduates are now in top corporate and government positions across the country. This is no longer just a good, church sponsored university, but a competitive national university. With the caliber of student that BYU is now attracting, you can expect them to continue to rise in national prominence.

TaipeiModerate
New Haven, CT

BYU is a great regional law school for the intermountain West. Be careful, however if you want to go national with your law degree (work for big law firms or for mid-sized and small firms outside of Utah, Idaho, and Arizona). Only 11% of BYU students currently make it into NLJ 250 firms (in comparison to a school like Chicago or Stanford which get 75% of the student body into national firms and judicial clerkships).

Additionally, of BYU's 11%, over half of those getting jobs are underrepresented minorities (mexicans, puerto ricans, american indians, african americans and homosexuals) or women-- these groups don't have to get great grades to get these positions either because of law firms' diversity initiatives.

Basically, as a white male at BYU you have to get top 5 percent grades to have a snuff at national placement.

Nevertheless, BYU is a great value and absolutely owns the SLC market over Utah.

Max
Syracuse, NY

Luart,

I have noticed over the past few weeks that the Des News is more or less becoming an extension of the BYU Daily Universe. I don't remember seeing so many articles about the goings on at BYU. They are indeed everywhere. This is definitely a BYU paper.

mrj56
South Jordan, UT

@TaipeiModerate. As a current student at BYU law, some of what you say is true. However, it is not required to be in the top 5% of the class to get a Big Law job. Most of those firms will take from the top 30% of the class, depending on the resume. Additionally, there are MANY students at the top of the class who do not want to work Big Law. They actually want to spend time with their family, rather than billing 2500 hours per yer.

Cosmo
Springville, UT

Marriott School has some good programs too. Accounting and Information Systems are both nationally ranked.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

we do seem to have a few more lawyers and laws than we need.

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