Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. feel tea party heat in Utah


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  • NWCL INDP Murray, UT
    April 2, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    The problem is that everyone is focusing on the wrong things. It isn't a name (Palin, Buchman) that will bring solutions. It isn't in a title (Democrat, Republican, Tea Party). We need to focus on the real issues that need fixing: Fixing the Economy, Lowering the Federal Debt, Decreasing Entitlements, Providing equal rights for all people, Fixing education ...

    No one party or one person has all the answers to these issues. We need to agree to focus on solutions, not focus on who is most conservative or a RINO or rubs elbows with Mike Lee.

  • charlie91342 Sylmar, CA
    March 23, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    I love the tea party. Absolutely love them. Why, you ask? Well, because they are so out of touch with the rest of america, the only places they have any power is really of no concern to anyone else. And they will put such a wedge in the GOP that it will be impossible for a repub to win the white house.

    when will they learn that the country has changed, and their 1800s mentality won't work in the real world anymore? They approve of the wars, they want to deregulate business, and the funniest part is that most of them are barely middle class so they are really just promoting other people getting rich while they stagnate.

    It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad...

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 22, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    There is one big reason I refuse to affiliate with the Tea Party, and by the way, I'm way more conservative than most of them. That reason is, that the Tea Party wants things to be their way or the highway. No middle ground and no compromise. I want GOOD conservatives elected to office. Ones that see what is going on and do their best to support it or fight it.

    Not always will they win and sometimes, like Hatch, they will have to bend for the greater good. I can't count the amount of legislation that, were it not for Hatch, would have been far worse than what the Democrats actually wanted to pass(The Dream Act is one of the many).

    Hatch has done a great job representing us. Whether or not he deserves to be re-elected is a decision that should be made only after much study. Not through knee-jerk reactions.

    Remember, it was the Tea Party that kept the Senate in the hands of the Democrat Party by running such an idiotic candidate in Nevada and other places that Harry Reid, et.al had no trouble winning.

    I'm voting for Romney.

  • The STAR Forum Coalville, UT
    March 21, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    As the spokesperson for The STAR Forum, I am really glad to see such healthy debate. We will not always agree on solutions, but getting the debate in the open always helps to create synergy in creating solutions.

    This Friday (March 25) there is a FREE event in Park City, Utah at 6:00 p.m. at The Prospector for those interested in seeing what 9.12 groups and tea party groups promote. We will have Brian Aitken here to talk about his unlawful jailing and subsequent release by Governor Chris Christie. He will also discuss his path to liberty through economic education. I love the End the Fed talk here.

  • Kearns_Dad Kearns, UT
    March 21, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    The tea party is too radical. Lots of good ideas, but fully implemented will cause class divisions as there are people who need assistance.

    To: carpoolmom. I know several "tea partiers" who have used Pell grants to get through school and others who use food stamps/WIC for disabled children. Can they be tea partiers?

    How does the tea party feel about bonuses paid to citizens to enlist for service in the National Guard?

    Sorry, I can't be a tea partier but I can maintain my conservative values and help my neighbors who struggle for the basic necessities of life.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 21, 2011 2:26 a.m.

    I am a member of the AFP groups in OR and TX (I have a house in both places)... And while these Political Activists in UT can play the game they are playing with their own state folks based on their weird election protocal.... They can't do it with party primaries... Everybody gets to vote in the primaries and this renegade group won't be able to control the state...

    This mindset and "Mob Mentality" cost Republicans and aided Democrats in the 2010 election in the States of Nevada, Delaware, Colorado and Alaska.... They made it so we had to continue to live with Democratic Leadership in the Senate for two more years and with Harry Reid and a Socialist in Delaware for six more years.... IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN IN 2012... YOU CAN WRITE THAT ONE DOWN.

    No candidate is perfect, and I'll be Darned if a Healthcare plan that was put together by a conservative consulting group in MA for Citizens in that state who wanted it is going to keep me and my family in UT from supporting the one guy that can fix the broken Financials of this Broken Republic.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    March 20, 2011 9:06 p.m.

    The tea party's desire to reduce our huge budget is good. Their methods are not. Their success will be short-lived now we have seen how far to the right they have pushed Utah politics away from the moderate majority.

    Watch them fracture and collapse next time around. Utah will have seen enough damage from this year's legislature. They'll return traditional power back to the moderate Republicans and the Democrats at their caucuses in April, 2012.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    March 20, 2011 8:56 p.m.

    Win in South Dakota perhaps.
    Obama's already fractured his own party. And the chasm is widening as we speak. There go the doves now, after Gitmo and Libya.

  • Gentile brookings, SD
    March 20, 2011 7:35 p.m.

    Tea Party will cause the gop to split next spring, letting Obama win another term. You heard it here first.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    March 20, 2011 12:56 p.m.

    Chuck Shroeder lives on a planet far from here.

    He may be a big tea party supporter but they are like the current opposition and they throw sticks and stones, hurl popular sayings like "socialism" and "balance the budget" yet where are they now? Mr Smith plumber has not given up his job to run the state, and if he had his wife would not be voting for him.

    The tea party says they are against healthcare as it costs taxpayers money, yet are fine with those same costs driving thousands of their neighbors annually into bankruptcy. They say the word "socialism" like it is nothing they would touch but they call the police if there is a crime committed, have the socialistic firefighters put out the fires in their town, and send their children on socialism built roads to a school funded by the government.

    And then they put on the holier than thou attitude. Like the current opposition, I say show us what you can do then ask for my respect and vote, til then you are as tinkling brass.

  • William Gronberg Payson, UT
    March 20, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Perhaps the speaker had his fingers crossed??

    "On a good day, he's a socialist," ... "On a bad day, he's a communist." This comment is in reference to John Huntsman.

    The activity of "posting" on an article in DN requires a higher standard than to have an article printed at the top of part B in todays Sunday newspaper.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    March 20, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    Only Senator Hatch should be concerned about Utah's Tea Party. Sorry to burst your bubble Tea Party, but you highly overrate your importance on the national level.

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    March 20, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    Every person I know, who supports Tea Party principles, has some sort of government income/support.

    The family with 9 children, moderate income, living in a McMansion brags about not paying taxes because of all their deductions.

    The triple-dipper who retired from the military, got a civilian job with the government and retired from that at 62, then worked long enough to fill in "40 quarters" for social security. That gives him military retirement, civilian retirement, federal healthcare benefits, and medicare. YET, he wants to cut spending?

    The federal employee who's now mad because she supported the far-right, and they now want to take away government jobs and benefits.

    It all comes home to roost.

    If you tea partiers want respect, you need to start thinking logically and NOT just about yourselves.

  • North Salt Lake North Salt Lake, UT
    March 20, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    I appreciate Orrin Hatch's service. However, I hope the Tea Party does not endorse Orrin Hatch's reelection bid. It's time for Orrin hatch to gracefully step down.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    March 20, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    The Tea Party aligns nicely with the GOP Platform as presented in 2008.
    McCain didn't follow it. Rove didn't follow it. Hatch, Romney and Huntsman aren't following it.
    It's out on the Internet. Anyone can read it. It was written by a committee of delegates and approved by the GOP in convention.
    It calls for smaller government.
    It calls for lower taxes.
    It calls for enforcement, not amnesty, when it comes to illegal aliens.
    Time to stop changing your tune just to appeal to a swing voting bloc!

  • AllSeeingEye Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    Knowingly or unknowningly the tea party will likely assure President Obama's re-election by fracturing the Rebupican party into pieces, niether of which will be large enough to make a difference on a national scale.

    Tea party people I have talked to don't care. And, maybe they shouldn't. They want their voice heard and they are entitled to that result.

    In Utah tea party efforts make for a lack of balance that leads to results like Utah being the first state in the union with a firearm as a state symbol to go along with being the first and only state to make an assualt on public disclosure of electronic public records.

    Nationally, however, tea party efforts are likely to guarantee another four years of a democrat as president.

    Looks like the best that can be hoped for is that sometime between 2012 and 2016 the tea party people and the more traditional conservatives who have long been the backbone of the Republican Party figure out how to integrate themselves so that, together, they can make a real difference across America.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    March 20, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    Let's see if The Tea Party in Utah has real control over its Government now. Politicians can rent out the people's house to lobbyists and pass toothless transparency campaign contribution and ethics laws, but this time they have gone too far, they have slammed the door closed on open government. Make no excuses, you have allowed politicians to hijack your government and let them think we are fools. We let them appoint committees, commissions and do studies to give the appearance of making government transparent while shoring up their own power. The most audacious move was to rent out the basement to lobbyists, so they no longer have to waste their time standing in line waiting to talk to a legislator. Much like cockroaches, once in, there's no getting them out. Lobbyists can now lounge around in their digs and text, e-mail and talk to any legislator without the public knowing they have been communicating something lawmakers once had to do with the average citizen. Here we go again, is Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. feeling the tea party heat in Utah ?. Perhaps so, if your full of hot air only.

  • L Central Utah, UT
    March 17, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    In my listening to the conversations at the barber shop, I would ays that quite a few would agree with ideas like more efficent government (state, local & federal) and living within our means but few would give the tea party itself much support nor do they want to be personally identified with it. I think one person said something like, "You can always hear a loudmouth, but that doesn't mean you have to listen."
    The real test will come when the vote is taken and a lot can happen between now and then. The vote may well swing on issues which havn't even come up yet.

  • Marty22 salt lake city, Utah
    March 16, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    Over his 35 years in the Senate Orrin Hatch has been far more conservative than most Republicans there. I've not always agreed with every vote he's taken, but I don't always agree with everything my husband of 37 years does either, yet, i stick with my husband because the overall trajectory has been positive and to my liking.
    Utah has the unique opportunity, in 2012, to send back to Washington as senator with so much seniority that that he'll chair the powerful Senate Finance committee. It would be insane for us not to re-elect him and hold his feet to the fire--but I don't think we'll need to do that, because Hatch gets it--and make sure he leads the income tax reform and Medicare and Medicaid which fall under the jurisdiction of that committee. If not Hatch, Olympia Snow is next in line, she will surely NOT reform taxes or entitlements.
    Hatch has had to work with what he's had in Washington. Give him a Republican senate and Paul Ryan working the budget in the House and things will be moving in the right direction.

  • OneAmerican Idaho Falls, ID
    March 16, 2011 9:40 a.m.

    "Do I think we've made progress? Absolutely," Hansen said. "They may not agree with everything he has done, but they appreciate that he is listening to them and talking to them." Yes, the same thing EVERY RINO does just before election time.

    But, let's not forget Hatch is half-hearted about repealing Obamacare, and to the question at a town hall last year of "Why don't you make it a law that elected officials must live by and under the same laws you pass?" Hatch's answer was "That might cause more problems than it would solve." WHAT??!!! How in the world could a politician having to live by and do the same thing he imposes on the rest of us cause a problem? I guess he thinks there might not be enough "good politicians" willing to go to Washington if they couldn't get the cushy deals that politicians have voted themselves in the past, what else could it be? Please, Utah, bring Orrin Home in 2012 and send a true patriot to Washington.

  • Furry1993 Somewhere in Utah, UT
    March 16, 2011 8:44 a.m.

    to jsf | 3:12 p.m. March 15, 2011
    Centerville, UT
    enough of the quitter garbage, Obama quit half way through his first term as senator.


    President Obama quit as Senator to take another job serving the people of the United States. Palin quit to avoid having to answer for her ethical short-comings, and to amass money and power. The two situations are VERY different.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    March 15, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    The me-party loves thier benefits. They just don't want to pay anything for them.

    A family with 5 kids, a mortgage to write off and a lower middle class income is likey to pay little in federal taxes yet they enjoy all the benefits of society.

    There are plenty of countries to the south that meet your requirements of low taxes and no social programs. Let me buy your ticket.

  • ER in EUR Belgrade, Serbia
    March 15, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    "Yeah But" hit it right on the head. I am a conservative Republican and like to believe I think for myself. I have lived in Utah for 65% of my life and in Wash DC and L.A. as well. I have also lived in four other countries one which was a communist power. I have democrat friends and a few Tea Partiers.

    What we as a country need is not a bunch of people with a narrow and shallow focus on taxes and early 20th century isolationism, what we need are people that build, that sacrifice and that look to the future. In an ever changing world that has overwhelming complexity, fixating on one or two issues is infantile and in the long-run more destructive than any enemy without.

    Cultivating an ideology that does not push eating your young as a central issue is key to our future. And demagogues such as Bro Schroeder are conspiracy theorists on a good day and fascists on a bad one.

    Build with intelligence, don't destroy with abandon.

    Diluting power and attempting to replace it with infantile pipedreams will feed the lib dems for as long as the TPers wish.

  • Gentile brookings, SD
    March 15, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    The tea party is not holding anyone's feet to the fire. What a joke. The money behind the tea party is, however. The rich folk who run the tea party. The ones who pay for the signs, get the buses, crank up the press releases, etc. You have been hoodwinked if you belong to the tea party and honestly think you are independent. What a joke.

    By the way, Romney needs them and won't be able to convince the right wing to join his crusade. Sad, but true.

  • Yeah but South Jordan, UT
    March 15, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    I believe the Tea Party is the "equal but opposite reaction" to the liberal Democrats. I always felt that KSL ran the Hannity program just to annoy the masses with his verbal abuse of those who didn't see things his way. Well, now it appears that Utah has been "Hannitized" - the Utah voters are becoming mindless masses who spend more time being "anti-everything" than "pro-anything." I am sick and tired of the endless knocking down, with an absolute lack of building up anything. Utah State government has driven my children (who were all excellent teachers) out of Utah by telling trying to legislate "science." HB477 passed here because we, the people, can't/won't elect ethical people to our legislature. Simultaneously, our legislature passed other bills that restrict our ability to influence them (such as making it harder than ever to pass a voter initiative). At one time, Utahns were demanding ethics reform from / for our legislature. This year, our legislalture responded - "Not just no; but Heck NO! - and take that for good measure."

  • juni4ling Somewhere in Colorado, CO
    March 15, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    I am a constitutional conservative.

    I want to see Republicans beat Democrats. I want to see true conservatives in office.

    The Founding Fathers used the "Good Book" as a moral guide in their leadership. They mandated that a leader should have a "house of order" in order to effectively serve the people.

    Palin did not have her house in order when she quit the governorship in Alaska.

    Listen to her resignation speech, and tell me that this is a person who had their house in any sort of "order."

    She said that she asked her kids if she should resign. Her kids said that they had had enough. So, she called it quits.

    Ridiculous from a persective of order.

    And there are folks who will say with a straight-face that Palin is the conservative ideal.

    The truth is, conservative ideals can stand on their own. They existed a long time before Palin tried starring in a reality-TV show. They existed a long time before Palin tried making money selling books.

    Conservative ideals can stand completely on their own...

    And sometimes moderate candidates do a much better job at communicating/acomplishing those ideals than a hard-line candidate...

  • LDS Libertarian Farmington, UT
    March 15, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    I hope the Tea Partiers of Utah destroy Romney, Huntsman, and Hatch -- and throw in Glenn Beck, or Sarah Palin or any other right-wing-nutcake they can find -- just to show the rest of the country just how far out of touch with reality they've become.

    Meanwhile - Huntsman would have my independant, moderate, Libertarian vote, even on a national Republican ticket.

  • juni4ling Somewhere in Colorado, CO
    March 15, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    jsf... When the "Tea Party" is letting Jim DeMint decide who represents Mormons, and who represents Utah in the US Senate... Yeah, I would say that Utah *needs* Hatch.

    What Hatch is referring to when he says that Utah *needs* him is the fact that seniority is what who sits on committees that make or break local economies. Utah's economy *needs* Hill AFB.

    Hatch, (and Bennett) both had the seniority to make decisions to keep Utah folks employed at Hill AFB. They had the ability to keep jobs here in Utah. Yeah, folks like DeMint sure put up a fight to shut-down Utah's economomy, and move Hill AFB jobs out of state... But Hatch/Bennetthad the seniority to flex political muscle and keep jobs here.

    The "Tea Party" inviting DeMint to play a role in eliminating Utah's senior represenation was a bad political move.

    The Utah "Tea Party" was playing Checkers when they invited DeMint to disrupt Utah's seniority in the Senate, and hurt Utah's economy. DeMint was playing Chess.

    So. Carolina *wins* Utah *loses.* You can thank the Utah "Tea Party."

    Yeah, Utah *needs* seniority in the US Senate. Utah *needs* Hatch.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    March 15, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    enough of the quitter garbage, Obama quit half way through his first term as senator.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    March 15, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    'Like Obama is doing?' - Brother Chuck Schroeder | 9:23 a.m.

    *'Last U.S. combat brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DsNews - 08/19/10
    'Seven years and five months after the U.S.-led invasion, the last American combat brigade was leaving Iraq, well ahead of President Barack Obama's Aug. 31 deadline for ending U.S. combat operations there.'

    Lots of claims Obama is doing a bad job...

    not a lot of examples.

    For me, I think Huntsman was a moderate. Someone we could all get behind. But if Huntsman is a 'quitter'...

    then what is Sarah Palin? Leaving her 1st term as Gov. of Alaska?

    Claims that some conservatives, aren't conservative ENOUGH (Rino's) serve only to weaken them. As, this level of 'purity' will never be achieved. Even two posters show, valid, concern over Democrat wins in this case.

    (juni4ling | 12:04 p.m. & TJ | 10:41 a.m.)

    Sharon Angle was a Tea Party canidate. She lost....

    and was against abortion in cases of rape.

    Such extreme views might win short term votes...

    but not long term victories.

  • shuttdlrl Smith River, CA
    March 15, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    I feel Hatch is on the Lord's side and we need him. He has worked hard for us.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    March 15, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    If the tea party is such a joke, has destroyed the rebulican party, is against strong moderate republicans, the cause for democrat victories, why all the attempts to discredit them by the liberal posters.

    Hatch has lost his privileage to represent Utah when in a town meeting he stated Utah needs him and can't suvive without him.

  • juni4ling Somewhere in Colorado, CO
    March 15, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    The "Tea Pary" put a liberal Democrat in office in the Senate race in New Hapshire.

    The "Tea Party" kept a liberal Democrat in office in the Senate race in Nevada.

    Both races played the same. Both races had good, solid "Republicans" that polled better than their Democrat rivals.

    The problem: in both races, the "Tea Party" controlled the votes in the Republican primaries...

    The result: the "Tea Party" produces very-poor candidates that looked really-bad against liberal Democrats. Reid was able to pull-off looking like a moderate against the "Tea Party" candidate.

    In New Hampshire, the "Tea Party" candidate looked like a joke. And a really-bad liberal Democrat looked like a moderate, and won the Senate election there.

    There is no confusion to me what the "Tea Party" wants to do in Utah... Look at the recent Senate races in Nevada, and New Hampshire to see what the "Tea Party" is capable of doing: defeating moderate Republicans in the primary, replacing them with "Tea Party" Republicans, and handing the votes to liberal Democrats, because the Democrats look like moderates compared to their "Tea Party" counterparts...

    *That* is what the "Tea Party" wants to do in Utah...

  • Ronald Fox North Salt Lake, UT
    March 15, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    The tea party leaders show how out of touch some people are when it comes to politics and government. If the comments are true about Governor Huntsman, then Ronald Reagan and Joe Stalin were twins at birth. Come on people, politics is not easy, its hard work. Some in these groups want to show Sen. Hatch the door. At the point in his career it is the time when he can have the most impact in Congress and do the most good for Utah and the Nation. Let's lower the tone of the dialog.

  • juni4ling Somewhere in Colorado, CO
    March 15, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    When the "Tea Party" invited Jim DeMint (So. Carolina Senator) to speak at the Utah Convention.

    They sent a clear message where the "Tea Party" stands in Utah.

    They say that they were just trying to unseat a Mormon senator with clear seniority: Bob Bennett. DeMint represents his constituents in So. Carolina and his role was simply an effort to put Utah workers (speak: Mormons) into the street, and move Hill AFB jobs to So. Carolina...

    Yeah, there should be no confusion in *anyones* mind where the "Tea Party" stands with Mormons in Utah...

    *Any* Republican polled better than the liberal Democrat here in Colorado prior to the recent Senate election. Tragically, the "Tea Party" picked a career-politician candidate who had learned to speak the "Tea Party" language... And, although, the "Republican" party had some good choices who polled well, they couldn't make it through the "Tea Party" that controlled the primaries, and, now we have a hyper-liberal Senator here in Colorado... The hyper-liberal looked like a "moderate" compared to the "Tea Party" candidate...

    If the "Tea Party" keeps it up, the facts show: the Democrat party will actually *grow* in Utah.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    March 15, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    The greatest threat to this nation is not President Obama, congress or a terrorist. It is the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernake, New York Fed president William C Dudley, Tim Geithner, and the American Citizens.

    The Tea Party is nothing but a dream sent from heaven to the Republican party. Nothing will change in Washington if Republicans gain majorities in all branches of government. The Fed, who really has all the power because they control the money supply, will still be allowed to operate in total secrecy. Wall Street will still be allowed to speculate and use CDO's and swaps in totally unregulated exchanges. And next time when they need to be bailed out they wont even bother going to congress because they can just go to their best friend the federal reserve and borrow money directly from them in total secrecy, but somehow the taxpayer will still be on the hook because the FEDs obligations are our obligations.

    Campaign finance reform and lobbyist reform will still not exist. I wish I was part of the country club. Yet i hear nothing from the tea party about any of this. In fact I think they want less regulation.

  • majorjenkins Provo, UT
    March 15, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    The tea party is a joke

  • Utah Dem Ogden, UT
    March 15, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    "...Democrats, who can largely be dismissed as irrelevant;...
    ...Republican Party's state chairman, Thomas E. Wright. "Every Utahan's voice is going to be heard across the nation," Wright said."

    First line is true yet still offensive
    Second line - what a joke - Every Utahan's voice, HAH!

    Huntsman is a quiter - he quit the governorship, now he is quiting as ambassador.
    Romney - he had the opportunity in the last presidential campaign to truly support and defend his LDS religion but he didn't do that, as an active LDS, I won't support him.
    Hatch - just too old and too Washington.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    March 15, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    On a good day, he's a socialist," said Darcy Van Orden, a co-founder of Utah Rising, a clearinghouse group, referring to Huntsman. "On a bad day, he's a communist."

    Has the right wing fallen off the cliff of reality? What's next, accusations that Romney and Huntsman eat their young?

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    March 15, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    Re: LDS Mom - 9:48 a.m. American Fork, UT
    Thank you Brother Schroeder for telling it like it is. Great article and I don't support any of the three either. Go tea party!!!

    Reply: Your welcome. Thank you very much, this proves that intelligent minds think alike. Now if only Hatch can answer this question, he to would have real intelligent "brain freeze" and his RINO would melt. The Patriot Act's money laundering provisions, where are they today?. Rep. Michael Oxley removed a provision involving money laundering from the bill at the behest of the White House and GOP whip Tom DeLay. Thanks to our GOP de-regulation for BIG OIL and Wall Street plus the crooked speculators that killed the planet back in 2008, these RINO anarchists against the poor and middleclass, that are GOP socialists for themself in sheep's wool cloths, could of prevented this, instead of getting filthy rich off of us, then stuff these monies in off shore tax safe havens drawing 2 percent interest, of non reported monies to the IRS, and they call that taxing fairly?.

    I tell it like it is, because, no-one else will.

    My View.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    March 15, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    "Southwick said that she believed that the tea party revolt she personally does not see much chance of her supporting Hatch, Huntsman or Romney has created a healthy tension among Mormons who will be forced to look deeper into a candidate's views"
    Well, if the Tea Party can infuse some inquisitiveness in the minds of people, I sincerely applaud that. Hopefully, these Tea Party citizens will expand their research beyond Republican candidates and Republican ideas and eventually they will become an educated constituency.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 15, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    These groups are nice but they better be careful. If there is too much bantering within the conservative groups it could lead to national democratic wins and the country can't handle much more of that.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 15, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    It's called "Savaging"

    In animal science, savaging (from savage) is overt aggression, usually including cannibalistic infanticide of newborn offspring, by a mother animal.

    Once the agression has begun from intruders or threats, and after the threat is gone -- the animal instict continues to attack and can't be stopped and continues as it turns on it's own.

    Rebublican right-wing puritism in Utah will cause more harm than good.

  • BYUBlue_rt Cedar Hills, UT
    March 15, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    "On a good day, he's a socialist," said Darcy Van Orden, a co-founder of Utah Rising, a clearinghouse group, referring to Huntsman. "On a bad day, he's a communist."

    Does anyone really think this sort of naming-calling rhetoric contributes positively to the political dialogue? I hope this isn't representative of the typical Tea Party voice, as to me this is the worst sort of politics. The public servants who are the subject of this article deserve much better, regardless of any disagreement on political issues.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 15, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Utahns have an unusual opportunity to see what will happen to our federal government if the Tea Party succeeds. All they have to do is look at the Utah legislature.

    If you have had work done by a member of the plumbers union, you would not worry about his family being on welfare. Plumbing contractors is a union.

  • carpoolmom SOUTH JORDAN, Salt Lake
    March 15, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    I don't know what tea party people you know but not one person I know gets free anything. They work hard day in and day out. That is one of their biggest complaints with what is happening with America that people are expecting everything free from college education, to healthcare to not looking for a job, etc. All the things that Hatch has condoned and advocated for while in office. Getting people to need government, promising things so he will get reelected. He thought if he introduced free healthcare, Medicare and free housing people would vote for him and there are those they fall for it that want something for nothing but they aren't part of the tea party. Maybe they were there at the rally you were at pretending to be tea partiers to get free food or something.

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    March 15, 2011 9:55 a.m.

    Orrin Hatch should be worried about his job. When a supposedly conservative senator votes in favor of a radical and totally unfunded expansion of Medicare, he can no longer be called "conservative."

    Before he voted for Medicare Part D in 2003-2004, the congressional budget office and the treasury secretary warned that this expansion would cost hundreds of billions in the short term and trillions more over the long run. Entitlements are killing this country and Senator Hatch has only helped to expand them and threaten our country's solvency.

  • Cowboy Joe Encampment, WY
    March 15, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    The Tea Party is a fraud. A mother of 5 and her husband is a plumber, how many social programs do they receive? I bet they receive some form of Government assistance. In my town recently the Tea Party had a rally. Most of the people went receive Medicaid, free and reduce lunch, etc. Yet they want to cut government spending.

    Many tea party members want to be more Conservative, BUT they don't want to cut their own government assistance programs. They are complete hipocrits.

  • carpoolmom SOUTH JORDAN, Salt Lake
    March 15, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    I know Hatch and I can guarantee he doesn't care to get it he just cares to get re-elected. It's all about winning for him. If the people in power in Utah became communist he'd change all his views and side up with them just to win. How come all of us normal folks can see what's going in America and the debt piling up(I'm not blaming Obama,although he's a big problem now) it started while Hatch was in office and voting for bigger government and bigger debt. I don't want a senator that can't think for himself that has to go to tea party members to ask what they want him to do so they'll vote for him. Again I know him, but don't work for him like those singing his praises so they'll still have a job. He has so much money to spend on this election which is what's wrong with politicians being in power so long. People read up on him don't just watch expensive ads. Let's quit giving our politicians a pass just for being a Mormon.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 15, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    Time will tell if Hatch, Romney and Huntsman are really Republicans, or RINOs.

    Based on all three of their past performances we can expect that they will campaign as conservatives, then rule as moderates, despite their promises.

    Utah deserves better, and will get better candidates via the caucus and primary process.

    Listen to the people, not the left-leaning media who adore RINOs.

  • LDS Mom American Fork, UT
    March 15, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Thank you Brother Schroeder for telling it like it is. Great article and I don't support any of the three either. Go tea party!!!

  • dalep2u Herriman, UT
    March 15, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    As a liberal...I applaud what the Tea Party is doing to the GOP!!! While I don't necessiarialy agree with all the Tea Party goals, I do believe there is a need to clean house in Washington. To many good old boys like Hatch, making deals that benifit the few...but not the many! On top of that...this spreads out the conservitive vote so that it dilutes the GOP's power come election time!!! Sure hope Palin runs as the Tea Party Candidate!!!!

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    March 15, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    If Mitt Romney wants to be elected in Utah then he may have to kowtow to these Koch Brother- Forbes financed groups, but if he wants to win nationally he needs to distance himself from them- not run toward them. Romneycare is a plus not a negative. The Tea Party success was because of public distaste for the petty politicking of the Republicans and Democrats that were in control of Washington. It had very little, if anything, to do with Tea Party ideas. Hatred of taxes---any taxes is their core.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    March 15, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    continued "part II"

    Here's "MY IDEA" why Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. feel tea party heat in Utah.

    Like Obama is doing. The liberal giant talking heada would be all over "W" Bush like flys on doo doo, but, where are they today, on Obama?. There's alot of things going on all around the World right now. But where's the news media with Obama, and what is he doing about it.

    Oh I forgot, he's out playing gulf again.

    All while the American People are in a mass panic.

    As for people, such as Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. they should feel the heat, not only from The Tea Party, but all the American People, when they hang with, agree with and rub elbows with President Obama.

    Like it or not, that's my Mormon True Republican views, this time, in 2 part's, because, I tell it like it is, because no-one else will.

    Now, let's start the debate.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    March 15, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    Here's "MY IDEA" why Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. feel tea party heat in Utah. ("WHAT-IF") "W" Bush sat-back, said-this, allowed it to happen. Wall Street slammed as Japan crisis worsens, Hawaii tsunami damages jump to tens of millions, Radiation Leaks Force 140,000 Indoors, Dangerous levels of radiation leaking from a crippled nuclear plant forced Japan to order 140,000 people to seal themselves indoors, you are acting as if you are exhausted from the effort you've been putting in at work lately then sabotages information all while you play a few rounds of gulf and B-ball, oil fields are set on fire, North Korea told a Russian envoy it is willing to discuss a recently disclosed uranium enrichment program if long-stalled nuclear disarmament talks resume, Nearly two-thirds of conservative Americans now say the war in Afghanistan is no longer worth fighting, The European Union says it's considering stress tests for nuclear plants, Stocks plunge as Japan nuclear crisis worsens, gas prices climb higher, more then half of the Gulf's oil rigs are shut down, Global food squeeze a problem etc.

    Like Obama is doing?.