Here's "MY IDEA" why Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr.
feel tea party heat in Utah. ("WHAT-IF") "W" Bush sat-back,
said-this, allowed it to happen. Wall Street slammed as Japan crisis worsens,
Hawaii tsunami damages jump to tens of millions, Radiation Leaks Force 140,000
Indoors, Dangerous levels of radiation leaking from a crippled nuclear plant
forced Japan to order 140,000 people to seal themselves indoors, you are acting
as if you are exhausted from the effort you've been putting in at work lately
then sabotages information all while you play a few rounds of gulf and B-ball,
oil fields are set on fire, North Korea told a Russian envoy it is willing to
discuss a recently disclosed uranium enrichment program if long-stalled nuclear
disarmament talks resume, Nearly two-thirds of conservative Americans now say
the war in Afghanistan is no longer worth fighting, The European Union says
it's considering stress tests for nuclear plants, Stocks plunge as Japan
nuclear crisis worsens, gas prices climb higher, more then half of the Gulf's
oil rigs are shut down, Global food squeeze a problem etc. Like
Obama is doing?.
continued "part II"Here's "MY IDEA" why Sen.
Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. feel tea party heat in Utah.Like Obama is doing. The liberal giant talking heada would be all over
"W" Bush like flys on doo doo, but, where are they today, on Obama?.
There's alot of things going on all around the World right now. But where's the
news media with Obama, and what is he doing about it.Oh I forgot,
he's out playing gulf again.All while the American People are in a
mass panic.As for people, such as Sen. Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney,
Jon Huntsman Jr. they should feel the heat, not only from The Tea Party, but all
the American People, when they hang with, agree with and rub elbows with
President Obama. Like it or not, that's my Mormon True Republican
views, this time, in 2 part's, because, I tell it like it is, because no-one
else will.Now, let's start the debate.
If Mitt Romney wants to be elected in Utah then he may have to kowtow to these
Koch Brother- Forbes financed groups, but if he wants to win nationally he needs
to distance himself from them- not run toward them. Romneycare is a plus not a
negative. The Tea Party success was because of public distaste for the petty
politicking of the Republicans and Democrats that were in control of Washington.
It had very little, if anything, to do with Tea Party ideas. Hatred of
taxes---any taxes is their core.
As a liberal...I applaud what the Tea Party is doing to the GOP!!! While I
don't necessiarialy agree with all the Tea Party goals, I do believe there is a
need to clean house in Washington. To many good old boys like Hatch, making
deals that benifit the few...but not the many! On top of that...this spreads
out the conservitive vote so that it dilutes the GOP's power come election
time!!! Sure hope Palin runs as the Tea Party Candidate!!!!
Thank you Brother Schroeder for telling it like it is. Great article and I don't
support any of the three either. Go tea party!!!
Time will tell if Hatch, Romney and Huntsman are really Republicans, or
RINOs.Based on all three of their past performances we can expect
that they will campaign as conservatives, then rule as moderates, despite their
promises.Utah deserves better, and will get better candidates via
the caucus and primary process.Listen to the people, not the
left-leaning media who adore RINOs.
I know Hatch and I can guarantee he doesn't care to get it he just cares to get
re-elected. It's all about winning for him. If the people in power in Utah
became communist he'd change all his views and side up with them just to win.
How come all of us normal folks can see what's going in America and the debt
piling up(I'm not blaming Obama,although he's a big problem now) it started
while Hatch was in office and voting for bigger government and bigger debt. I
don't want a senator that can't think for himself that has to go to tea party
members to ask what they want him to do so they'll vote for him. Again I know
him, but don't work for him like those singing his praises so they'll still have
a job. He has so much money to spend on this election which is what's wrong with
politicians being in power so long. People read up on him don't just watch
expensive ads. Let's quit giving our politicians a pass just for being a Mormon.
The Tea Party is a fraud. A mother of 5 and her husband is a plumber, how many
social programs do they receive? I bet they receive some form of Government
assistance. In my town recently the Tea Party had a rally. Most of the people
went receive Medicaid, free and reduce lunch, etc. Yet they want to cut
government spending.Many tea party members want to be more
Conservative, BUT they don't want to cut their own government assistance
programs. They are complete hipocrits.
Orrin Hatch should be worried about his job. When a supposedly conservative
senator votes in favor of a radical and totally unfunded expansion of Medicare,
he can no longer be called "conservative."Before he voted
for Medicare Part D in 2003-2004, the congressional budget office and the
treasury secretary warned that this expansion would cost hundreds of billions in
the short term and trillions more over the long run. Entitlements are killing
this country and Senator Hatch has only helped to expand them and threaten our
I don't know what tea party people you know but not one person I know gets free
anything. They work hard day in and day out. That is one of their biggest
complaints with what is happening with America that people are expecting
everything free from college education, to healthcare to not looking for a job,
etc. All the things that Hatch has condoned and advocated for while in office.
Getting people to need government, promising things so he will get reelected. He
thought if he introduced free healthcare, Medicare and free housing people would
vote for him and there are those they fall for it that want something for
nothing but they aren't part of the tea party. Maybe they were there at the
rally you were at pretending to be tea partiers to get free food or something.
Utahns have an unusual opportunity to see what will happen to our federal
government if the Tea Party succeeds. All they have to do is look at the Utah
legislature.If you have had work done by a member of the plumbers
union, you would not worry about his family being on welfare. Plumbing
contractors is a union.
"On a good day, he's a socialist," said Darcy Van Orden, a co-founder
of Utah Rising, a clearinghouse group, referring to Huntsman. "On a bad
day, he's a communist."Does anyone really think this sort of
naming-calling rhetoric contributes positively to the political dialogue? I
hope this isn't representative of the typical Tea Party voice, as to me this is
the worst sort of politics. The public servants who are the subject of this
article deserve much better, regardless of any disagreement on political issues.
It's called "Savaging"In animal science, savaging (from
savage) is overt aggression, usually including cannibalistic infanticide of
newborn offspring, by a mother animal.Once the agression has begun
from intruders or threats, and after the threat is gone -- the animal instict
continues to attack and can't be stopped and continues as it turns on it's
own.Rebublican right-wing puritism in Utah will cause more harm than
These groups are nice but they better be careful. If there is too much bantering
within the conservative groups it could lead to national democratic wins and the
country can't handle much more of that.
"Southwick said that she believed that the tea party revolt she personally
does not see much chance of her supporting Hatch, Huntsman or Romney has
created a healthy tension among Mormons who will be forced to look deeper into a
candidate's views"Well, if the Tea Party can infuse some
inquisitiveness in the minds of people, I sincerely applaud that. Hopefully,
these Tea Party citizens will expand their research beyond Republican candidates
and Republican ideas and eventually they will become an educated constituency.
Re: LDS Mom - 9:48 a.m. American Fork, UT Thank you Brother Schroeder for
telling it like it is. Great article and I don't support any of the three
either. Go tea party!!! Reply: Your welcome. Thank you very much,
this proves that intelligent minds think alike. Now if only Hatch can answer
this question, he to would have real intelligent "brain freeze" and
his RINO would melt. The Patriot Act's money laundering provisions, where are
they today?. Rep. Michael Oxley removed a provision involving money laundering
from the bill at the behest of the White House and GOP whip Tom DeLay. Thanks to
our GOP de-regulation for BIG OIL and Wall Street plus the crooked speculators
that killed the planet back in 2008, these RINO anarchists against the poor and
middleclass, that are GOP socialists for themself in sheep's wool cloths, could
of prevented this, instead of getting filthy rich off of us, then stuff these
monies in off shore tax safe havens drawing 2 percent interest, of non reported
monies to the IRS, and they call that taxing fairly?. I tell
it like it is, because, no-one else will.My View.
On a good day, he's a socialist," said Darcy Van Orden, a co-founder of
Utah Rising, a clearinghouse group, referring to Huntsman. "On a bad day,
he's a communist."Has the right wing fallen off the cliff of
reality? What's next, accusations that Romney and Huntsman eat their young?
"...Democrats, who can largely be dismissed as irrelevant;......Republican Party's state chairman, Thomas E. Wright. "Every Utahan's
voice is going to be heard across the nation," Wright said."First line is true yet still offensiveSecond line - what a joke - Every
Utahan's voice, HAH! Huntsman is a quiter - he quit the
governorship, now he is quiting as ambassador. Romney - he had the
opportunity in the last presidential campaign to truly support and defend his
LDS religion but he didn't do that, as an active LDS, I won't support him.Hatch - just too old and too Washington.
The tea party is a joke
The greatest threat to this nation is not President Obama, congress or a
terrorist. It is the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernake, New York Fed president
William C Dudley, Tim Geithner, and the American Citizens.The Tea
Party is nothing but a dream sent from heaven to the Republican party. Nothing
will change in Washington if Republicans gain majorities in all branches of
government. The Fed, who really has all the power because they control the money
supply, will still be allowed to operate in total secrecy. Wall Street will
still be allowed to speculate and use CDO's and swaps in totally unregulated
exchanges. And next time when they need to be bailed out they wont even bother
going to congress because they can just go to their best friend the federal
reserve and borrow money directly from them in total secrecy, but somehow the
taxpayer will still be on the hook because the FEDs obligations are our
obligations.Campaign finance reform and lobbyist reform will still
not exist. I wish I was part of the country club. Yet i hear nothing from the
tea party about any of this. In fact I think they want less regulation.
When the "Tea Party" invited Jim DeMint (So. Carolina Senator) to
speak at the Utah Convention.They sent a clear message where the
"Tea Party" stands in Utah.They say that they were just
trying to unseat a Mormon senator with clear seniority: Bob Bennett. DeMint
represents his constituents in So. Carolina and his role was simply an effort to
put Utah workers (speak: Mormons) into the street, and move Hill AFB jobs to So.
Carolina...Yeah, there should be no confusion in *anyones* mind
where the "Tea Party" stands with Mormons in Utah...*Any*
Republican polled better than the liberal Democrat here in Colorado prior to the
recent Senate election. Tragically, the "Tea Party" picked a
career-politician candidate who had learned to speak the "Tea Party"
language... And, although, the "Republican" party had some good
choices who polled well, they couldn't make it through the "Tea Party"
that controlled the primaries, and, now we have a hyper-liberal Senator here in
Colorado... The hyper-liberal looked like a "moderate" compared to the
"Tea Party" candidate...If the "Tea Party" keeps
it up, the facts show: the Democrat party will actually *grow* in Utah.
The tea party leaders show how out of touch some people are when it comes to
politics and government. If the comments are true about Governor Huntsman, then
Ronald Reagan and Joe Stalin were twins at birth. Come on people, politics is
not easy, its hard work. Some in these groups want to show Sen. Hatch the door.
At the point in his career it is the time when he can have the most impact in
Congress and do the most good for Utah and the Nation. Let's lower the tone of
The "Tea Pary" put a liberal Democrat in office in the Senate race in
New Hapshire.The "Tea Party" kept a liberal Democrat in
office in the Senate race in Nevada.Both races played the same. Both
races had good, solid "Republicans" that polled better than their
Democrat rivals.The problem: in both races, the "Tea
Party" controlled the votes in the Republican primaries...The
result: the "Tea Party" produces very-poor candidates that looked
really-bad against liberal Democrats. Reid was able to pull-off looking like a
moderate against the "Tea Party" candidate.In New
Hampshire, the "Tea Party" candidate looked like a joke. And a
really-bad liberal Democrat looked like a moderate, and won the Senate election
there.There is no confusion to me what the "Tea Party"
wants to do in Utah... Look at the recent Senate races in Nevada, and New
Hampshire to see what the "Tea Party" is capable of doing: defeating
moderate Republicans in the primary, replacing them with "Tea Party"
Republicans, and handing the votes to liberal Democrats, because the Democrats
look like moderates compared to their "Tea Party" counterparts...*That* is what the "Tea Party" wants to do in Utah...
If the tea party is such a joke, has destroyed the rebulican party, is against
strong moderate republicans, the cause for democrat victories, why all the
attempts to discredit them by the liberal posters. Hatch has lost
his privileage to represent Utah when in a town meeting he stated Utah needs him
and can't suvive without him.
I feel Hatch is on the Lord's side and we need him. He has worked hard for
'Like Obama is doing?' - Brother Chuck Schroeder | 9:23 a.m. *'Last
U.S. combat brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DsNews
- 08/19/10 Line: 'Seven years and five months after the U.S.-led
invasion, the last American combat brigade was leaving Iraq, well ahead of
President Barack Obama's Aug. 31 deadline for ending U.S. combat operations
there.' Lots of claims Obama is doing a bad job... not a
lot of examples. For me, I think Huntsman was a moderate. Someone we
could all get behind. But if Huntsman is a 'quitter'... then what is
Sarah Palin? Leaving her 1st term as Gov. of Alaska? Claims that
some conservatives, aren't conservative ENOUGH (Rino's) serve only to weaken
them. As, this level of 'purity' will never be achieved. Even two posters show,
valid, concern over Democrat wins in this case. (juni4ling | 12:04
p.m. & TJ | 10:41 a.m.) Sharon Angle was a Tea Party canidate.
She lost.... and was against abortion in cases of rape.
Such extreme views might win short term votes... but not long term
enough of the quitter garbage, Obama quit half way through his first term as
jsf... When the "Tea Party" is letting Jim DeMint decide who
represents Mormons, and who represents Utah in the US Senate... Yeah, I would
say that Utah *needs* Hatch.What Hatch is referring to when he says
that Utah *needs* him is the fact that seniority is what who sits on committees
that make or break local economies. Utah's economy *needs* Hill AFB.Hatch, (and Bennett) both had the seniority to make decisions to keep Utah
folks employed at Hill AFB. They had the ability to keep jobs here in Utah.
Yeah, folks like DeMint sure put up a fight to shut-down Utah's economomy, and
move Hill AFB jobs out of state... But Hatch/Bennetthad the seniority to flex
political muscle and keep jobs here.The "Tea Party"
inviting DeMint to play a role in eliminating Utah's senior represenation was a
bad political move.The Utah "Tea Party" was playing
Checkers when they invited DeMint to disrupt Utah's seniority in the Senate, and
hurt Utah's economy. DeMint was playing Chess.So. Carolina *wins*
Utah *loses.* You can thank the Utah "Tea Party."Yeah,
Utah *needs* seniority in the US Senate. Utah *needs* Hatch.
I hope the Tea Partiers of Utah destroy Romney, Huntsman, and Hatch -- and throw
in Glenn Beck, or Sarah Palin or any other right-wing-nutcake they can find --
just to show the rest of the country just how far out of touch with reality
they've become.Meanwhile - Huntsman would have my independant,
moderate, Libertarian vote, even on a national Republican ticket.
I am a constitutional conservative.I want to see Republicans beat
Democrats. I want to see true conservatives in office.The Founding
Fathers used the "Good Book" as a moral guide in their leadership.
They mandated that a leader should have a "house of order" in order to
effectively serve the people.Palin did not have her house in order
when she quit the governorship in Alaska.Listen to her resignation
speech, and tell me that this is a person who had their house in any sort of
"order."She said that she asked her kids if she should
resign. Her kids said that they had had enough. So, she called it quits.Ridiculous from a persective of order.And there are folks
who will say with a straight-face that Palin is the conservative ideal.The truth is, conservative ideals can stand on their own. They existed a long
time before Palin tried starring in a reality-TV show. They existed a long time
before Palin tried making money selling books.Conservative ideals
can stand completely on their own...And sometimes moderate
candidates do a much better job at communicating/acomplishing those ideals than
a hard-line candidate...
I believe the Tea Party is the "equal but opposite reaction" to the
liberal Democrats. I always felt that KSL ran the Hannity program just to annoy
the masses with his verbal abuse of those who didn't see things his way. Well,
now it appears that Utah has been "Hannitized" - the Utah voters are
becoming mindless masses who spend more time being "anti-everything"
than "pro-anything." I am sick and tired of the endless knocking
down, with an absolute lack of building up anything. Utah State government has
driven my children (who were all excellent teachers) out of Utah by telling
trying to legislate "science." HB477 passed here because we, the
people, can't/won't elect ethical people to our legislature. Simultaneously,
our legislature passed other bills that restrict our ability to influence them
(such as making it harder than ever to pass a voter initiative). At one time,
Utahns were demanding ethics reform from / for our legislature. This year, our
legislalture responded - "Not just no; but Heck NO! - and take that for
The tea party is not holding anyone's feet to the fire. What a joke. The money
behind the tea party is, however. The rich folk who run the tea party. The
ones who pay for the signs, get the buses, crank up the press releases, etc.
You have been hoodwinked if you belong to the tea party and honestly think you
are independent. What a joke.By the way, Romney needs them and
won't be able to convince the right wing to join his crusade. Sad, but true.
"Yeah But" hit it right on the head. I am a conservative Republican
and like to believe I think for myself. I have lived in Utah for 65% of my life
and in Wash DC and L.A. as well. I have also lived in four other countries one
which was a communist power. I have democrat friends and a few Tea Partiers.What we as a country need is not a bunch of people with a narrow and
shallow focus on taxes and early 20th century isolationism, what we need are
people that build, that sacrifice and that look to the future. In an ever
changing world that has overwhelming complexity, fixating on one or two issues
is infantile and in the long-run more destructive than any enemy without.Cultivating an ideology that does not push eating your young as a
central issue is key to our future. And demagogues such as Bro Schroeder are
conspiracy theorists on a good day and fascists on a bad one. Build
with intelligence, don't destroy with abandon.Diluting power and
attempting to replace it with infantile pipedreams will feed the lib dems for as
long as the TPers wish.
The me-party loves thier benefits. They just don't want to pay anything for
them.A family with 5 kids, a mortgage to write off and a lower
middle class income is likey to pay little in federal taxes yet they enjoy all
the benefits of society.There are plenty of countries to the south
that meet your requirements of low taxes and no social programs. Let me buy your
to jsf | 3:12 p.m. March 15, 2011 Centerville, UT enough of the
quitter garbage, Obama quit half way through his first term as senator. -------------------President Obama quit as Senator to take
another job serving the people of the United States. Palin quit to avoid having
to answer for her ethical short-comings, and to amass money and power. The two
situations are VERY different.
"Do I think we've made progress? Absolutely," Hansen said. "They
may not agree with everything he has done, but they appreciate that he is
listening to them and talking to them." Yes, the same thing EVERY RINO
does just before election time.But, let's not forget Hatch is
half-hearted about repealing Obamacare, and to the question at a town hall last
year of "Why don't you make it a law that elected officials must live by
and under the same laws you pass?" Hatch's answer was "That might
cause more problems than it would solve." WHAT??!!! How in the world could
a politician having to live by and do the same thing he imposes on the rest of
us cause a problem? I guess he thinks there might not be enough "good
politicians" willing to go to Washington if they couldn't get the cushy
deals that politicians have voted themselves in the past, what else could it be?
Please, Utah, bring Orrin Home in 2012 and send a true patriot to Washington.
Over his 35 years in the Senate Orrin Hatch has been far more conservative than
most Republicans there. I've not always agreed with every vote he's taken, but
I don't always agree with everything my husband of 37 years does either, yet, i
stick with my husband because the overall trajectory has been positive and to my
liking. Utah has the unique opportunity, in 2012, to send back to
Washington as senator with so much seniority that that he'll chair the powerful
Senate Finance committee. It would be insane for us not to re-elect him and hold
his feet to the fire--but I don't think we'll need to do that, because Hatch
gets it--and make sure he leads the income tax reform and Medicare and Medicaid
which fall under the jurisdiction of that committee. If not Hatch, Olympia Snow
is next in line, she will surely NOT reform taxes or entitlements. Hatch
has had to work with what he's had in Washington. Give him a Republican senate
and Paul Ryan working the budget in the House and things will be moving in the
In my listening to the conversations at the barber shop, I would ays that quite
a few would agree with ideas like more efficent government (state, local &
federal) and living within our means but few would give the tea party itself
much support nor do they want to be personally identified with it. I think one
person said something like, "You can always hear a loudmouth, but that
doesn't mean you have to listen."The real test will come when the
vote is taken and a lot can happen between now and then. The vote may well swing
on issues which havn't even come up yet.
Let's see if The Tea Party in Utah has real control over its Government now.
Politicians can rent out the people's house to lobbyists and pass toothless
transparency campaign contribution and ethics laws, but this time they have gone
too far, they have slammed the door closed on open government. Make no excuses,
you have allowed politicians to hijack your government and let them think we are
fools. We let them appoint committees, commissions and do studies to give the
appearance of making government transparent while shoring up their own power.
The most audacious move was to rent out the basement to lobbyists, so they no
longer have to waste their time standing in line waiting to talk to a
legislator. Much like cockroaches, once in, there's no getting them out.
Lobbyists can now lounge around in their digs and text, e-mail and talk to any
legislator without the public knowing they have been communicating something
lawmakers once had to do with the average citizen. Here we go again, is Sen.
Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. feeling the tea party heat in Utah ?.
Perhaps so, if your full of hot air only.
Knowingly or unknowningly the tea party will likely assure President Obama's
re-election by fracturing the Rebupican party into pieces, niether of which will
be large enough to make a difference on a national scale.Tea party
people I have talked to don't care. And, maybe they shouldn't. They want their
voice heard and they are entitled to that result.In Utah tea party
efforts make for a lack of balance that leads to results like Utah being the
first state in the union with a firearm as a state symbol to go along with being
the first and only state to make an assualt on public disclosure of electronic
public records.Nationally, however, tea party efforts are likely to
guarantee another four years of a democrat as president. Looks like
the best that can be hoped for is that sometime between 2012 and 2016 the tea
party people and the more traditional conservatives who have long been the
backbone of the Republican Party figure out how to integrate themselves so that,
together, they can make a real difference across America.
The Tea Party aligns nicely with the GOP Platform as presented in 2008.McCain didn't follow it. Rove didn't follow it. Hatch, Romney and Huntsman
aren't following it.It's out on the Internet. Anyone can read it. It was
written by a committee of delegates and approved by the GOP in convention.It calls for smaller government.It calls for lower taxes.It calls
for enforcement, not amnesty, when it comes to illegal aliens.Time to stop
changing your tune just to appeal to a swing voting bloc!
I appreciate Orrin Hatch's service. However, I hope the Tea Party does not
endorse Orrin Hatch's reelection bid. It's time for Orrin hatch to gracefully
Every person I know, who supports Tea Party principles, has some sort of
government income/support.The family with 9 children, moderate
income, living in a McMansion brags about not paying taxes because of all their
deductions.The triple-dipper who retired from the military, got a
civilian job with the government and retired from that at 62, then worked long
enough to fill in "40 quarters" for social security. That gives him
military retirement, civilian retirement, federal healthcare benefits, and
medicare. YET, he wants to cut spending?The federal employee who's
now mad because she supported the far-right, and they now want to take away
government jobs and benefits.It all comes home to roost.If you tea partiers want respect, you need to start thinking logically and NOT
just about yourselves.
Only Senator Hatch should be concerned about Utah's Tea Party. Sorry to burst
your bubble Tea Party, but you highly overrate your importance on the national
Perhaps the speaker had his fingers crossed?? "On a good day,
he's a socialist," ... "On a bad day, he's a communist." This
comment is in reference to John Huntsman.The activity of
"posting" on an article in DN requires a higher standard than to have
an article printed at the top of part B in todays Sunday newspaper.
Chuck Shroeder lives on a planet far from here. He may be a big tea
party supporter but they are like the current opposition and they throw sticks
and stones, hurl popular sayings like "socialism" and "balance
the budget" yet where are they now? Mr Smith plumber has not given up his
job to run the state, and if he had his wife would not be voting for him.The tea party says they are against healthcare as it costs taxpayers
money, yet are fine with those same costs driving thousands of their neighbors
annually into bankruptcy. They say the word "socialism" like it is
nothing they would touch but they call the police if there is a crime committed,
have the socialistic firefighters put out the fires in their town, and send
their children on socialism built roads to a school funded by the government.
And then they put on the holier than thou attitude. Like the
current opposition, I say show us what you can do then ask for my respect and
vote, til then you are as tinkling brass.
Tea Party will cause the gop to split next spring, letting Obama win another
term. You heard it here first.
Win in South Dakota perhaps.Obama's already fractured his own party. And
the chasm is widening as we speak. There go the doves now, after Gitmo and
The tea party's desire to reduce our huge budget is good. Their methods are
not. Their success will be short-lived now we have seen how far to the right
they have pushed Utah politics away from the moderate majority. Watch them fracture and collapse next time around. Utah will have seen enough
damage from this year's legislature. They'll return traditional power back to
the moderate Republicans and the Democrats at their caucuses in April, 2012.
I am a member of the AFP groups in OR and TX (I have a house in both places)...
And while these Political Activists in UT can play the game they are playing
with their own state folks based on their weird election protocal.... They can't
do it with party primaries... Everybody gets to vote in the primaries and this
renegade group won't be able to control the state...This mindset and
"Mob Mentality" cost Republicans and aided Democrats in the 2010
election in the States of Nevada, Delaware, Colorado and Alaska.... They made it
so we had to continue to live with Democratic Leadership in the Senate for two
more years and with Harry Reid and a Socialist in Delaware for six more
years.... IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN IN 2012... YOU CAN WRITE THAT ONE DOWN.No candidate is perfect, and I'll be Darned if a Healthcare plan that was put
together by a conservative consulting group in MA for Citizens in that state who
wanted it is going to keep me and my family in UT from supporting the one guy
that can fix the broken Financials of this Broken Republic.
The tea party is too radical. Lots of good ideas, but fully implemented will
cause class divisions as there are people who need assistance.To:
carpoolmom. I know several "tea partiers" who have used Pell grants
to get through school and others who use food stamps/WIC for disabled children.
Can they be tea partiers?How does the tea party feel about bonuses
paid to citizens to enlist for service in the National Guard?Sorry,
I can't be a tea partier but I can maintain my conservative values and help my
neighbors who struggle for the basic necessities of life.
As the spokesperson for The STAR Forum, I am really glad to see such healthy
debate. We will not always agree on solutions, but getting the debate in the
open always helps to create synergy in creating solutions.This
Friday (March 25) there is a FREE event in Park City, Utah at 6:00 p.m. at The
Prospector for those interested in seeing what 9.12 groups and tea party groups
promote. We will have Brian Aitken here to talk about his unlawful jailing and
subsequent release by Governor Chris Christie. He will also discuss his path to
liberty through economic education. I love the End the Fed talk here.
There is one big reason I refuse to affiliate with the Tea Party, and by the
way, I'm way more conservative than most of them. That reason is, that the Tea
Party wants things to be their way or the highway. No middle ground and no
compromise. I want GOOD conservatives elected to office. Ones that see what is
going on and do their best to support it or fight it. Not always
will they win and sometimes, like Hatch, they will have to bend for the greater
good. I can't count the amount of legislation that, were it not for Hatch,
would have been far worse than what the Democrats actually wanted to pass(The
Dream Act is one of the many).Hatch has done a great job
representing us. Whether or not he deserves to be re-elected is a decision that
should be made only after much study. Not through knee-jerk reactions.Remember, it was the Tea Party that kept the Senate in the hands of the
Democrat Party by running such an idiotic candidate in Nevada and other places
that Harry Reid, et.al had no trouble winning.I'm voting for Romney.
I love the tea party. Absolutely love them. Why, you ask? Well, because they
are so out of touch with the rest of america, the only places they have any
power is really of no concern to anyone else. And they will put such a wedge in
the GOP that it will be impossible for a repub to win the white house. when will they learn that the country has changed, and their 1800s
mentality won't work in the real world anymore? They approve of the wars, they
want to deregulate business, and the funniest part is that most of them are
barely middle class so they are really just promoting other people getting rich
while they stagnate. It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad...
The problem is that everyone is focusing on the wrong things. It isn't a name
(Palin, Buchman) that will bring solutions. It isn't in a title (Democrat,
Republican, Tea Party). We need to focus on the real issues that need fixing:
Fixing the Economy, Lowering the Federal Debt, Decreasing Entitlements,
Providing equal rights for all people, Fixing education ... No one
party or one person has all the answers to these issues. We need to agree to
focus on solutions, not focus on who is most conservative or a RINO or rubs
elbows with Mike Lee.