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Published: Monday, March 14 2011 1:07 p.m. MDT

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TMR
Santa Monica, CA

J Adams, when you decide to make the move, might I suggest Mexico for your country of choice

Jazz Bass Man
Wellsville, Utah

Mr. Governor, please consider what the voters did to the RINOS Chris Cannon and Bob Bennett when they supported illegals over their own constituents. DO NOT SIGN HB116 OR WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT OF OFFICE.

calou84523
Ferron, Utah

@Osgrath I can't speak for all the right but I can speak for me and welcome an intelligent dialog. I'm willing to bet that your ancestors came here under the laws concerning immigration that existed at the time they immigrated.

The reasons illegals are here have no more relevance than do the reasons any other criminal commits his/her crime, if asked every criminal will claim a good reason for what he/she has done.

calou84523
Ferron, Utah

@Osgarth My ancestors, like the millions of others of LEGAL immigrants that built this nation, came here legally . . . they were forbidden by law from being on the public dole, they learned English, they were net contributors to their new country not net detractors, in short they complied fully with title 18. The people you are talking about deserve no more humanity than does the burglar in the night or the armed robber on the street; their children have no more claim to citizenship than do the children of the bank robber have a claim to the money that the robber steals from the bank. Let me make this point clear . . . I welcome all LEGAL immigrants; their cultures, their hard work, their innovations, their respect of our laws, and their contributions are what made this nation great but those that are here ILLEGALLY are just plan criminals and should not be afforded the rights of citizens or those extended to those here legally but are deserving only of the punishment afforded to any other common criminal.

calou84523
Ferron, Utah

@Osgarth This is a black and white issue Crossing the border without authorization is a crime. The statute reads: 'Any alien who enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers . . . shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 (of the U.S. Code) or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both.

If these wretched masses are truly "yearning to be free" then let them stay in there own country and overthrow their oppressors.

Trooper55
Williams, AZ

What ever happen to the seprate of State and Church? I for one say that if they are here anyway but the right way then send them back to were they came from, and don't let the church have any say in the matter. They take jobs from people who have worked all their life and all the churches want to do is keep them here, make the churches that back theses bill pay for the up keep of them. Please don't put it on the taxpayers back.

dhogle
Mesa, AZ

I have been following the Utah immigration compact and reading most anything I can on the subject including the comments made by some of the people on this website. I am an attorney in Arizona and see first hand what aggressive legislation does on this topic. I would encourage the readers of this site and citizens of the U.S. in general to get educated on the matter before forming an opinion. Propaganda and press has made the immigration topic a scapegoat for the real problems we are facing. The reality is there will always be illegal immigration. We cannot stop it. The majority of the people coming here illegally are simply wanting to work and provide for their families. They are doing jobs that no other american is willing to do. Of course there are bad seeds coming too but what Utah has done is put the issue squarely where the problem belongs...to the federal government. There is no workable way an immigrant can come to the U.S. legally right now. So, encourage to close the borders, get a program so people can come here to work and be accounted for, kick out the bad. MY TWOCENTS

dhogle
Mesa, AZ

It is interesting to me that the church and or churches have taken a stance on this issue. Religious institutions have a unique perspective on immigration because they are given the chance to actually meet the immigrant and realize they are not taking away from our society but actually in a very real sense adding to it. They buy our food, gas, housing, etc. In many instances they are paying taxes as well. Most would sell their soul to be here in some legal capacity. Immigrants do not enjoy looking over their shoulder every minute of every day. But that is better than where they came from. Are they to blame for high health care prices, rising taxes, and longer wellfare lines? They are nominally to blame but the real blame rests squarely on self serving politics and unethical labbyists and policies. I am suprised at the narrow views of the readers of this site. Look at the big picture and spend your time and efforts on issues that truly affect our country.

crime
duquesne, ga

What a mistake UT, 2.2 billion Ga , 10.5 billion Calif. the amounts spent on hosting illegal immigrants in those states.
Prison pop. in Ga 40% is illegals, teen pregency up 32% most illegals,no other country allows criminals to walk its streets having no idea who they are (gangs, rapist,murders) with no ID, cost billions to its citizens, able to drive on its roads with no license,free education, health, welfare, and majority don't speak the language,and able to send over 70 million out of country back home, home values drop 4% on avg. in those areas and pay no taxes.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

RRB's claims are rubbish. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has clearly stated it supports the principals of the Utah Compact. To claim the Church has done anything else is a boldfaced lie.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

My ancestors barely learned English for a whole generation. Up until World War I many public schools in the US offered instuction in German. There were multiple Polish newspapers published in the United States as well as the Yiddish Theatre. A great portion of immigrants never learned English.

Those ranting against immigration sound exactly like the no-nothings of the 1850s or the Nativists of the 1910s.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

The two top crime cities in the United States are Detroit Michigan and Flint Michigan. Neither of these cities have significant numbers of undocumented immigrants, and the level of crime is close to being inversely related to the number of immigrants in a neighborhood in both these cities.

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