ute4ever,Interesting trend only to you. For those of us that see
things clearly, and unobsured by delusional foresight (like most Ute fans), BYU
is clearly the more attractive venue both locally and Nationally than Utah. Why
would Dave Rose even consider going to a school w/ lesser standards, a lousy
program (recently), and fans that are borish, leaving behind a program (like he
has built BYU's into) want to do that? I don't think Dave Rice would even
consider the thought. Going into a lesser basketball conference
(PAC12) that his cougars have dominated make no sense whatsoever...Keep the delusions of grandeur going Ute-fans, the fat man is long gone, and
so is your basketball program for years to come...Oh, and we'll soon add your
Football program to that list after the big choke at the end of '10, and the
pending doom that lies ahead next fall w/ an unproven offense, and a round of
butt kickins in LA, Provo, Pittsburg, Berkley, Tucson and maybe 1 more at home.
The only question that BYU and it's fans should be asking is WHY all of the good
former BYU players, coaches, etc continue to chose Utah over BYU. Seriously,
you can take jabs at Utah for hiring BYU's talent, but why don't you ask
yourself why, if BYU is truely such a great institution, why their own continue
to chose the rival over them. And when Utes are presented a chance to be back
at BYU (Whittingham, Roderick), they turn BYU down. Interesting trend, isn't
it?The ONLY answer is that Utah provides something, whatever that
may be, that BYU simply cannot provide. Whether it be PAC12 access, superior
recruiting opportunities, additional salary....whatever it is there is a reason
Utah is a preferred location compared to BYU.
Scenic View,Fickle fan base? I remember in the years following
Roger Reid's departure, BYU was practically giving away upper level seats to try
to fill the Marriott Center. They did the same thing in football during the
Gary Crowton years. I remember sitting in Bishopric meetings while the Bishop
was going through his mail and opening the letter from BYU offering as many
tickets as the ward wanted to buy for $1 per ticket. So, the Utes aren't the
only school in the state with a fickle fan base.
@nunya"Seriously, not only do you guys go after the same
athletes that BYU is interested in, you guys also go after the coaches current
or ex."Well of course the U is going to go after the same
coaches and players as BYU. That's what recruiting is all about. Remember back
when Gary Crowton got fired? The Y wanted Kyle Whittingham. Think of all the
times that a local player has let his decision come down to Utah or BYU with
both teams doing their very best to sway him to their side. It's the nature of
collegiate sports, not anything sinister.
I don't get it - a depleted BYU team? No doubt, Emery and Fredette are
irreplacable. But the Cougs will do some damage with a front line that includes
Davies, C. Collinsworth and Hartsock. Add swingmen Abouo and Rogers and guards
Matt Carlino (who should have started at UCLA this year), Winder and Harrison
and you will see a Top 25 team.
My moneys on Hunsaker.
New coach will come from afar. Not local.
Someone other than Hill should make this decision. His record hasn't been good
and has cost the u lots of money.
That depleted Y team will kick the u's fannys for years to come. The promise of
the pac is fools gold for the utes. You won't be smelling Rose, except from a
Do not hire a "local" candidate. I realize that people here want to
have someone they know, but get a quality coach. Dave Rose is the only guy of
the bunch that would be a good hire, but he is not going to leave BYU. Utah
needs to open up the pocket books and get a major hire. Shoot for the stars and
don't settle for a second rate hire.
Dave Rose coaching at the U is simply a pipe dream being shared by desperate
Utah fans.Rose has no interest in entering Utah's revolving coaching
door with its fickle fan base and near empty basketball arena.Rose
has already built a nationally respected program at BYU, with great fan and
university support, and great security.Morrill has a similar solid
program and security at Utah State.Tommy Connor, Jeff Judkins, Dave
Rice, and Dick Hunsaker are the likely local candidates.Utah fans
better hope that Dr. Hill doesn't fall into the trap of trying to hire a
"Big Name" from another part of the country who doesn't understand the
value a recruiting locally.
Dick Hunsaker at UVU is the Third best coach in the state he should get looked
at, he can always be counted on to get the most out of his players.
Dave Rose would be a great fit. I don't know much about Dave Rice. Jeff
Judkins would be great, but there may be some bad blood between him and Chris
Hill. BTW, nunya, just in case you didn't know, Judkins was a Ute for a long
time before coaching at BYU. A lot of the candidates being talked about locally
are former Ute assistants including Judkins. Tommy Connor and Randy Rahe are
two more. So take your hatred somewhere else.
Locally as in try and hire current or ex byu coaches? The Same Losing Community
aka team from SLC at it again. Seriously, not only do you guys go after the
same athletes that BYU is interested in, you guys also go after the coaches
current or ex. Take your Same Losing Community team and fans to the pac 11.