@Hugh--good point. Makes me question things. I feel pretty confident in saying
that Larry wanted more. But I can't make sense of KOC/Greg. Nevertheless, good
How do you all know that this ISN'T the team/coach that the Millers/KOC want?"Fun and competitive" and just good enough to keep the season ticket
holders coming.I'll take a rookie Jimmer over Watson anyday.
Like Jazz fans been saying for a while now, need to bench the non defenders and
play the rookies. It makes no sense to continue to shorten the careers of
Jefferson and Milsap by playing them into the ground. Sit Bell and AK too. Its
time to develop the rookies. Give them 35+ minutes a night and lets see what
they can do. It seems Corbin has the same rookie bias's that Sloan had only
worse. Let Fes, Favors, Haywood and Evans get some meaningful playing time from
here on out. Nobody likes to watch these worn out vetrans try to play without
AK Fan--If AK doesn't stay in UT he will most likely be NJ bound--Russian owner,
seems fitting. DWill will most likely move on unless he (NJ owner) can pull of
some serious magic in recruiting some help for DWill. Wouldn't that be funny AK
and DWill reunited once again. LOL...
Dark age until find better coach. As I said before game time management is
crucial for this team. Jazz played better as team Al in bench. Al is ball hog
one directional guy defense is horrible. Why didn't go after Love when he was
available. Season is over. Work for future. After Sloan's retirement Ak changed
a mind not gonna stay in Utah. I don't think Nets either . Deron already there.
SO big decisions for AK and Jazz.
Harris better show me a lot more, seriously. Not impressed since I seen him get
burned on the playground by some local kid, ha ha.. Youtube it. My bitterness is
that we no longer have an ALL-STAR PG in DWill. I know I need to get over it but
it's hard as we just haven't had many in UT, period. Harris can do a few things
good but consistent outside shooting (long-range) has never been his strong
point and his assists per game scare me. He needs to be a better creator after
all that's what great PG do. I know a lot of people want to run CJ out of town.
I haven't quite jumped on that bandwagon b/c I know what that could potentially
mean if history repeats itself. I hate losing guys unnecessarily and have it
come back to haunt bite us--same sad story. We need some vets mixed in and I
hope they can gel and be unified to play defense. Deno22--unless I'm
missing something we don't build around Favors. He is good but has a lot of
growing to do.
Captain.....How did CJ have a mediocre game when he had the best +/- of any
player on the Jazz last night? He shot a higher percentage than the team
average last night.
CJMiles: I don't know why your complaining to me, I didn't slam on CJ. I just
said he had a mediocre game, which he did. Like I said earlier, play the
youngsters and help them develop. I would love to see AJ, Favors, CJ, Hayward
and Harris start and Evans and Fes get as much time as possible as reserves. I'd
even like to see what this Cousin's kid has.
I am almost hope their is a lockout next season as I don't wanna see a whole
season of this, that would be tough. I hope they make lots of moves this
offseason because no matter how much potential Favors has I don't think he is
going to be a guy you can build a team around but I could be wrong. This team
needs to be rebuilt BADLY. What we have now will never get it done, not now or
How about this u bring in players that are used to losing and now we lose. I
love AJ but he has a hard time on the D. I would not resign CJ, and would buy
Setting up for The Jimmer Pick.
Again, this is a team sport. This is why I could care less about the
"number game" or padding stats. It's no secret that when Kobe doesn't
involve his teammates they area mediocre. This isn't quantum physics that we
must get more assists (listen up Harris) and play as a unified team--Oh, I;m
definitely referring to the BIG D as well. It's our only hope. Corbin, KOC and
Greg need to be held as accountable as anyone. So far I'm not impressed with
Corbin's leadership skills. It's as if he doesn't want to hurt anyone's
feelings. Man up Corbin and look at the big picture instead of 3 inches from
your face. Remember it all start from the top. Now, don't take this wrong as
players to wake up and realize what they have to do to win. Despite the fact we
haven't won the big dance we have always been a proud/winning organization. I
think it was Vinnie that hit on the head earlier. We need veteran leadership and
can't have all rookies. We have that-no excuses. None. Go Jazz.
Todd, Captain and Houdini.....Let's see. You guys love the +/-. CJ was the
best on the team last night at -1. So all of your comments are way out of line.
Why don't you look at your boy AK. 2 - 14 last night. Or your boy Corbin who
plays Evans more minutes than Favors.Todd for not watching the game
how do you know CJ didn't show up when it counted. Strange thing is the
starters gave the game away in the first 6 minutes and CJ wasn't even on the
floor. Your comments are as much fantasy as Houdini's comments. I know for
sure you two couldn't coach a 5 year old team.Moving on.......Anyone
notice that since AJ started putting up big offensive numbers, the Jazz are
losing by a wider margin? I am beginning to wonder who the cancer really is!!
If you read Todd's post, of which I totally agree, he is calling out numerous
players even stating that only a few are exempt from being trade bait. Read
closer as Todd is not "just" calling out CJ. He knows better than to
call out just one guy. Look at the +/- stats against the Bulls. Todd, thoughts
on Fess? Does Corbin need to just bite the bullet and give him 20-25 minutes a
game? I have been discouraged with him as of late.@ Captain L-thanks for
your post on the matter. Ak was horrible (fact) and I could care less that
Harris had 20+ points as it really meant nothing except padding his stats. 3
assists people? Korver had 6. This is our catalyst/court leader? No excuses as I
agree with Todd. Not Jazz basketball. He needs to lead as he is a our PG.
Remember he is a veteran in the league.To all u Korver haters, hmmm. He
sure is playing better D and he lit us up last night. Sure would be nice if we
still had him to spread the offense. Frustrated. Play the rooks more-agree. More
D. Go Jazz
re: Sokol Sure AK had a bad game. How many good overall games has
he had since Deron left. Most all of them.Perhaps you should go and
check all the players stats before you start whining. AK beats the pathetic CJ
in literally every statistical category including 3 point shooting.
Game after game the starters come out completely unprepared to compete.What does that say about these players? What does that say about Corbin? I
find it very interesting that game after game these starters come out and will
not defend but Corbin leaves them out there to play. This many bad
blowout games in a row would have never happened with Sloan driving the bus. He
would have made a better showing with my kids Junior Jazz roster.As
it stands right now, if someone gave me a free ticket in the lower bowl I would
not drive downtown to watch...I have been watching for over 20 years now.Check the stats yourself. This is now one of the worst teams in the
NBA. Jefferson is piling up stats on a horrific team. We are another version
of the Minnesota Timberwolves.Night after night they NEVER compete.
The games are over, literally, in the first 10 minutes. A once proud
franchise has been reduced to rubble in 90 days.
All of the talk about what position this team will draft in is just hogwash,
because those of you who know this management and other smart teams thinking
know that they will more than likely trade 1 or both for experienced players at
postions they need help in, we already have 3 or 4 rooks and unless you want to
toilet next season also you will need some experience not a team made up of
rookies and 2nd year players with not much playing time. Another issue is that
the Bulls are #1 in defense this year even with 3 ex-Jazz players. Isn't it time
to look at films to see what they do and how they do it? C'mon coaches lets see
how the good teams defend and forget the ancient Sloan system. Draft, trade or
sign players that will listen, work, and will be defenders, if you don't it
doesn't matter how good you are offensively because winning teams defend!
Somebody tell Kirilenko he is not Michael Jordan...When you are 0-11 do you keep
jacking up those bad shots? The Jazz franchise is almost single handedly being
destroyed by the 17 Million dollar man Kirilenko...You pay a guy 17 mill...He
is0-11....1 point at half time...The guys who made much less from the
other squad that you could have kept, Korver are killing you.I think the
management of the team defies logic and common sense.Harris and Watson are
missing in action when guarding the 3 point shot.Is Corbin going to stop
guarding the 3? Why did he wait till the 2nd half to employ a zone that worked?
Not much on the Jazz makes alot of sense anymore...
Houdini: I realize CJ isn't going to become what I hoped he would with the
talent he has, mostly because he doesn't have the heart and fight to play hard
enough, but your as bad as CJMiles the poster here on DN. Your comments on CJ
are just as bad in the negative way as his used to be in the positive way. Both
are out of line with reality. CJ's play last night wasn't really good or bad, it
was mediocre. I agree with those who are calling for the youngsters to get
the playing time and lets see what they can do and prepare for the future.
Favors has alot of developing to do to be the player everyone thinks he can be,
get him on the floor and force feed him. Hayward needs to be on the floor 40
minutes a game and put into a position of being the attacker.The Jazz
should get either the 6th or 7th pick with NJ's pick and then the 12th or 13th
pick which is there own. Hopefully we can get two players that can shoot and be
Got to remember there are 2 parts to an assist... First a pass, then the
receiver of the pass must put the ball in the basket, 30% shooting will = in
low assists #s...But having said that, its time for Corbin to start
the bench. For 3 or 4 games that will wake up the starters. They think there
jobs are set. And its time to build for next year. The rookies need 30+ minuets.
Is the "fat lady" singing?Way to go Gregg & KOC. You
have dismantled a very good team into nothing.
Hayward who played well the night before only got 7 minutes,what`s the deal?
Todd you`re dead on about miles,scores a few points,plays zero defense and
collects a nice paycheck he`s the "chemistry issue" Corbin refered
to,dump him now,he`e flabby,lazy,worthless and Way Way overpaid
Boylens available and he has NBA experience. Not impressed with Corbin. He's
not getting the job done.
The ship is sinking. When will the "rats" jump and leave the faithful
to use the buckets to save the boat?
16 assists!!! When is the last time the Jazz only had 16 assists in a game?
And how is it a Jazz starting PG who plays 41 minutes only has 3 assists? This
is clearly not Jazz basketball and I hope not the direction that Corbin is
taking the team. Korver even had 6 assists in half the time for the Bulls and
he has no clue how to pass the ball.
When a team is near the bottom, it may or may not be rebuilding time.
The excuses need to stop. Corbin is making no adjustments. He is not getting
the job done. I missed the game and glad I did. This 3 point show is old and
Earl Watson who I like, but was awful guarding Rose and he was lazy getting
over. There is no D. The Jazz have given up on Fes but he still is the best
there is unless you call what the Jazz are doing better in protecting the paint.
At this point, the Jazz cannot play well enough to even make a run
at the playoffs. Miles (as usual) did nothing when it counted. Kirilenko
zilch. AJ offensively at least did.Truly, outside of Favors, Evans,
Gordon and AJ, every one else to me including guys I really like Paul and Earl,
all should be subject to trade.No one else is untouchable nor should
the coach have been either.
Play the rookies please. Hayward, Favors, and Evans should be starting and
playing 35 or more minutes, makes no sense for that not to be happening.
Sadly how do these athletes not play defenseAs a former HS
basketball coach when I picked a team I looked for hard working kids, I used to
pick basketball players first, then the best athletes second. I always figured
that I could turn a wrestler that was a good athlete into a rebounder, a soccer
player into a good defender, etc. I look at most Pro basketball players and they
are amazing athletes, why won't these guys defend. Well it hit me
tonight, because defending takes heart and determination and I witnessed none of
that tonight. It looked like they just wanted to collect a paycheck and go home
and the last thing on their minds were the fans, their coaches, and their
teammates. SADthat first half effort was pathetic, guys
Was that the Utah Flush in the 1st half?
we're getting closer to that top 10 pick. keep it up boys. hopefully, the nets
will play as bad as we do. oh wait, they're on a 3-win streak. we can only dream
Play the rookies the rest of the year build them up for next year.... What we
got to lose ? The game?
No comments?? LOL Looks like the Jazz fans have abandoned the sinking
ship.Another embarrassing blow out, many more to come. I love watching this