@Houdini-enough of the "golfer boy" comment. Getting old. Again, you
are clearly missing the big picture. It's a team sport not an individual sport.
Not sure what you don't understand. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks
your posts are irrelevant. Stop stirring the pot about the whole CJ thing. We
have a lot more issues than that. I'm glad you think Harris will take us all the
way. He is average at best Houdini. It was a big loss losing DWill. I didn't
like his attitude but maybe, just maybe he had a legit reason for not wanting to
sign long-term. Most players probably wouldn't have. He wants to win and every
all-star needs a great supporting cast as Jordan and Kobe have had. Go Jazz.
TO GREAT HOUDINI....we loose to a 17 - 51 team by 21 points and i'm
wondering how is it that we could beat NJ easily??....your dislike of Dwill has
clouded your perspective...the Jazz will continue to be a lottery team with the
underwhelming Harris running the point..
the real reason why we have a crappy season is Al Jefferson...the dude has a
curse on him or something...havent you noticed...before he got here...we were a
playoff team...when he got here...we lost it...lol...KOC should've tried getting
David West and Marcus Thornton...
Lot's of long comments. Bottom line this team sucks. No leader, No go to guy.
Time to let KOC go. Planning for the future in the NBA is a joke. These players
today play for themselves, they worry about their own future not the teams
future. Management needs to change long term thinking and just worry about NOW,
and Now is a lost cause this year!!!!
After this season they need to get Harrison Barnes and Kemba Walker!!! Get rid
of Harris because he's lazy, and I don't know how you "jazz fans" like
Im falling a sleep reading this article Im not a jazz fan and never will be dont
hold your breath waiting for a championship to come to the jazz - it will never
KOC cut out the biggest cancer on this team,when he sent d-will a packin,that`s
right golfer boy,a cancer,but he missed a little chunk,cj miles,the 4 million
dollar cancer who if not dealt with will infect the rest of this team.Harris
will be just fine as he learns the system,and we will be better than NJ now and
next year,and could beat them now easily.williams goneski...miles will soon be
gone,good riddance to both of them
@ One vote--LOL. nice post....@ Al Bundy-Bulls have a great shot and
what's interesting is that everyone is happy on their new respective teams--even
Matthews. They have some great talent and just acquired Wallace-great pick-up.
Interesting; no one will miss the Jazz. Things are different and so far it has
not been an uplifting experience. We will see. I don't blame the players,
attitude and all, for not wanting to play in Utah. Something is not right as
this is not quantum physics....a mix of KOC and Greg, I don't know. Something is
not right, though. Very sad. If we think we are going places with Harris, Price,
CJ, Bell, Fess, Elson, Watson, Okur, AK and AJ we are sorely mistaking. I will
give Hayward, Evans and Favors a break b/c their rookies. Not sure what to
think of Millsaps role. Many believe he could be a trading chip for a SG--not
sure how I feel about that. We will see..
The Jazz need some solid outside shooters like Korver. Some slashers like
Mathews and Brewer, A stud point guard like Williams, wait they had that. Even
if we lose Mathews to big money, replacing Boozer with Big Al and keeping the
other guys? I think that would have worked better and just maybe that was why
D-Will was upset? By the way all those mentioned above are doing very well with
there new teams! Jazz east as I call the Bulls may win the whole thing?
Millesr should have given D Will the raceway park.
@ohplease--guess what buddy, your right. Sad to say but your right. Just maybe
both DWill (I'm not stupid as I know he copped attitude--who in the NBA doesn't,
to a degree?) and Coach Sloan knew a lot more than all of us....this franchise
was going no where fast. In my line of work it all starts at the top and
trickles down folks--most things are set up this way. One must be an example
upon high and then lead. We don't have that--not even close. I'm not saying we
couldn't get it back but that will require change, restructure and a lot more
strength/heart/honor. Ohplease, with DWill in the line up Nets would
beat us down hard right now. Sad, but not denying it as we don't understand
basic fundamentals of basketball. The highest level one can get and we are
having to post about heart, pride, respect and just having fun playing the
fundamentals of bball. What a waste of time. Sorry y'all I'm clearly frustrated
after last night's loss. My bad.
I'm so tired of naysayers blaming one person, CJ Miles, as a sole CA (cancer) on
this Jazz squad. Such ignorance. Barry Bonds was a huge locker room CA as we ALL
know. SF Giants dang near won the 2002 WS and guess what? It surely wasn't Barry
Bonds fault. Poor coaching and pitching doomed them in the end. Now, stop
calling out one player for heavens sake. Since when did CJ Miles have that much
power? A guy making 3.7 mil has that much pull in the locker room? Seriously
Great one? If this is the sole reasoning for the Jazz's demise right now, wow--I
must be way out in right field. The Jazz have so MANY internal issues right now.
Last time I checked it took 5 guys to play DEFENSE. CJ has been a problem no
doubt but by far their only serious issue. Harris is already proving he is
about giving us one good game in 3-5. He is no where in the same league as
DWill. He's showing his true colors-not the answer KOC. Still no shooting guard.
No defense. I can go on and on.
You people need to get your heads out of the sand and quit blaming Deron.His
frustration was with the lack of talent on the team, and it should be obvious to
even a blind person that the Jazz are now devoid of talent because management
gave all the talent away. Sloan knew it and DWill knew it. By the way, when your
heads come out of the sand, put a paper bag over them because that's how ugly
the Jazz are playing.Furthermore, the Nets have a better chance of
making the playoffs this year than do the Jazz. You reap what you sow.
Miles is no stud muffin...He is soft to the core, but might have the most
talent..What a shame! You would think every year, he would get closer to being
a go to guy..but no he just wastes his talent.
No fight, no pride. Plain and simple. The Jazz players that were in uniform
Friday were head and shoulders better than the Wolves. The Jazz just play no
defense, and do not have a lot of fight in them. I will not even waste my time
watching tonight. I hope the Jazz can at least take some steps to start making
progress toward the future. Maybe CJ will show up 10 games from now again.
Wonder if we as fans ought to call these guys out...Another words, they do not
have the effort, heart and demeanor to win...Stop with the excuses they are just
not good enough. They seem to have no pride. I think this concept is lost on
the Russian Kirilenko...He is just so happy to be making millions, so why try
anymore...Masha has her boutique, Okur has his model, Harris is disinterested in
Okur is done, a cooked Turkey...He should retire.
Dear Anonymous ask yourself who would watch regular joe's play b-ball? The prima dona's are the reason for the league, they are the draw,
otherwise you have churchball. You also mentioned how the gov't
employees are also the bane of our existence when last time I checked those are
firemen, policemen, school teachers, I am wondering how you plan to do without
these or if you just love to whine.KOC has this team packed with
talent right now. Prior to Williams beginning this season he said they were a
better team than last year. The Jazz have suffered through some heavy issues
with Okur and his $10 M sitting on the bench, that would be like asking the
Lakers to win without Odom.For whatever reason Deron quit on the
team and as captain the rest of the team followed him thinking it was okay to
play in a funk. It's not okay. Current coaching group needs to get their act
together or move on. As fans we want to see hustle, heart, the team has talent,
motivate them or get out of the way so somebody can.
He would be a great GM....Fire the obvious reason for the demise of the Jazz,
@Sokol. I have been saying the same thing for years. KOC is the problem. I would
rather have Isiah Thomas than KOC. Well almost! But Charles Barkley should be da
man. Sir Charles loves the Jazz and Utah and I think he would do just great. I hate how KOC experimented with the SG position the whole time he has been
here. What really insults the SG position is he experiments it with High School
hopelesses. First it was Deshawn Stevenson, than C.J. Miles. Than he tries back
up players like Korver and Bell.
KOC is the cancer...What do we have now, but a team that resembles the Cleveland
Cavaliers...These guys just do not get up for the games...We have several soft
players in Kirilenko, Okur and Miles...We are going nowhere, but if we have the
same poor management, we are going to get the same ineffectual talent brought
into the Jazz organization.
AK and Bell continue to be black holes.Management sided with dwill
in his feud with sloan. That is why sloan quit, he was afraid of being
fired.Management then deals dwill.No wonder the team has quit.
Yes you've got it right "allpurposeanimal". The Jazz are rebuilding
again. They maxed their potential in 1997-1998 seasons. What else can anyone
with a lick of sense expect; a couple of years one step from two championships.
Jordan was the insurmountable obstacle in those years. I'll always have the
image in my mind of Mike Jordan standing on top of the scorers table in the
Delta Center with the cigar in his chops, crowing about the win in the one
series last game.KOC cannot be objectively criticized by anyone with
half a brain about the moves the Jazz have made. We can just have half a heart
with the Utah Jazz at Chicago team with Boozer, Brewer and Korver now on their
roster. With the NFL on a lockout, look for the NBA to do the same. These
prima dona players are screwing up the leagues, just like the government
employees doing the same with their convoluted union demands, bankrupting the
country.A complete housecleaning over time will probably be good for
the Jazz, and tough for the fans. I am for it. AK is next, and hopefully
Fesenko. Obviously AK belongs in NJ.Go Jazz.
I said it before and will say it again,the cancer is cj miles,if you`ll
watch,he doesn`t take it seriously,it`s all funny,the game against NY he was
laughing when he got yanked out,his laziness will infect everybody
eventually,get rid of him and that`ll be a good start,I relly believe these
youngsters we have want to succeed
Hey dwillfan! Just want to let you know your player now plays for New
Jersey. Go root for them!!! We need positivity not negativity. For those
of you who can't read the writing on the wall--- Jazz are in a rebuilding phase.
I for one will be patient and enjoy watching the young guys develope. Be patient
or be frustrated those are the choices. You decide!!
Going further about the above article, is that there isn't "1 penney"
of income to these greedy slobs just mentioned above that isn't paid to them
other than by the fan and only the fans! It's sickening and to think that we
don't have a voice in their negoitiations. It's all about how are we going to
split up the money we get from Mr. Joe Fan and citizen! I hope there is a 2 or 3
year lockout in both leagues and maybe MLB will be next! This is just like the
political scene world wide we have been experiencing for many, many years. It's
time this big business stuffing it to the little guy crap is stopped and what
better place to start than something not required in a persons life than
entertainment. This crap is not a life neccessity like food and shelter fans.
Stand up and let these jerks know that! I'm sick of all of it!
ESPN used the term "dismantle" in profiling the loss. There appears
to be no motivation. The core players appear to have "gotten rid of the
'wicked' witch" and now are coasting. There is still a "cancer"
among the core group of players. D Will must still be in contact and creating
turmoil out of "revenge". Corbin is like "Custer" just
before Crazy Horse gave the order. The troops should be following Corbin and
not "laughing at him" like he is the "towell sent down from the
'big house'". It is time to "clean house" before the new players
are contaminated. Corbin deserves his "shot" with players that he can
coach. I believe that something dramatic needs to be done again to show that
Corbin is "in charge". Whatever the nature of the clique involved in
"taking over the team", it wasn't just Williams, Jefferson has
evidently been told to "put his game in his pocket".
Fans lets reflect some here. The start to this season should have been an
indicator to what was ahead. Get way behind, rally and win a close game, time
& time again. Lack of total effort game long was the reason. That followed
by D-Will's marketing himself and his calling out players and coaches because it
wasn't being done his way. His refusal to resign an extension and holding the
Jazz organization hostage over what the "almighty" D-Will plans were.
Disension on the team started right there. Sloan & Johnson quit, D-Will
already had, and now the team is in turmoil. This is why the upcoming CBA
contract is so important, just like the NFL's contract that is now screwed up.
The NFL was all about how to distribute 7 billion dollars(of fans money mind
you). Now I don't want a bunch of you saying it isn't fans money. These
primma-donna players and owners get every penney they get from the fans and
other citizens pockets. Subsidized stadiums, parking, over priced
concessionaires, TV contracts, advertisor money, all paid by fans.
watching the jazz play this season has been incredibly frustrating. the playoff
run is over, we all know that. the only thing left for these boys to play for is
pride. jazz nation is a proud bunch and we are not happy with the way these guys
are playing. we don't expect them to win, but we do expect them to hustle and
play with heart. that's what we are accustomed too, what we expect, and what we
deserve. plain and simple.my solution:replace o'conner with
stockton. yeah, stockton. he's always had a knack for the game, has a danny
ainge-like mentality, will have a good reason for his moves, and is loved by all
in utah. corbin's a nice kid but lacks intensity and experience. bring in byron
scott to coach. his iq of the game is off the charts and is highly respected
among players.go jazz! here's hoping for a better "next"
Evans and Hayward looked good,the rest,already on vacation,first time as a Jazz
fan I`m rooting for them to lose (higher pick and not going anywhere anyway)
anything short of a 4 seed with home court is a sure 1st round exit,and no way
we are getting to a 4 seed
The starters should have sat this one out. The bench got us back into the game
then Corbin went back to the defenseless starters and allowed them to lose the
game again. The lack of defensive effort by the veterans makes developing the
rookies sound like the best option from here on out. Go Jazz! Go rookies!
Harwood is a better basketball player right now, as a rookie, than cj will ever
Stick a fork in them, they're done. I can't ever remember seeing a team fall so
far so fast.
Poor decision to start Evans. Corbin should start AK at the 4 and CJ at the 3.
He is so like Jerry. Start a guy who never plays when you can slide AK to the 4
and start CJ. Chalk up another lose tonight.
Is there another Pistol Pete Maravich out there? Go Jazz! Going small was a nice
change against the Raptors. If we can't match up size wise, maybe we can run
them to death! Don't forget the Dairy Queen after the Game.
Watson and Harris, I meant, are good together.
They still got a chance, so maybe the season is not lost...They did learn that
Harris and Watson together are not a wise choice...First the Jazz had one loopy
big in Greg Ostertag, now history repeats itself with Fesenko..
re: BugoffHave to agree with you about putting max money in a PG.
How many teams win championships with their PG as their best go-to player?
Maybe Isiah is the last I can even think that might fit that definition but he
had alot of good role players around him when the bad boys won in detroit. I
only wish we had guys that tough.Although I am suffering some
serious withdrawal not being able to watch Deron and his talent, I do not miss
watching his poor leadership take the team exactly no-where...and that is where
they were going with his leadership. It just was not happening.I
have to take issue thoughwith your comment about Evans boxing Love out. Love is
now known as a rebounding machine by referees which is in large part because he
is a hard worker, knows where the ball is going, and gets plenty of love from
the refs.Evans better be ready to jump high because Love will have
him pushed into the front row with Evans slight frame before Evans knows what is
happening. I personally think Love will eat him up.
It sounds like Jazz nation should be the coach, he always knows what to do and
has every answer! I wonder if he has ever worn a jock? More than likely not!
I would rather see Evans play the 3 coming off the bench. I think Favors should
get the start, not Evans.
Love was hampered in his last game by the knee brace. Evans may give him trouble
as Evans will be so much quicker. Favors can play against the back up and
dominate.Evans can box out but I am not sure if the refs will give
him any calls. He needs to practice his acting as Love will knock him into next
KOC has a very interesting interview with Hoopsworld. He was quietly shopping
DWill for some time. Probably before Sloan retired. Offers were made but the
right players were not offered back. Remember that Sloan and KOC
talked about a trade just before Sloan decided to retire. Losing DWill meant
rebuilding and also sacrificing this season for a young big, a
"adequate" PG and future picks. That is what KOC wanted in return for
DWill for the long run future of the team. Sloan may not have felt
he had the years of energy to rebuild?The collapse of the team and
the coming lock out year seemed to determine the timing of the trade. NJ lost on
Melo but had the right assets. NY and Landry Fields were an option for KOC if
Melo did not go to NY. KOC coached for years. He seems to know what
is needed to build a winner. Having the max tied up an a shooting PG may not be
an option for Utah to win in the long run?Twin PFs with a good PG
and a very good SG might. Hoopsworld assumes AK is going to NJ.