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Published: Monday, March 7 2011 8:24 p.m. MST

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What's up?
Salt Lake City, UT

Need to change the subject as fast as we can from basketball. Go Utes,

Tommy2Shoes
Lehi, UT

Good coaching now pays off in September. Glad we get you at our place in Provo this year. Good luck in your new league. Hope you represent our state very well. Can't really hate a team that has so many ties to my Cougars, but hope you at least have one loss.

MCH1056
Murray, UT

Tommy2Shoes: Unlike your team down south, we are in a conference. A BCS conference. We can get into the BCS without running the table anymore. Not that I wouldn't love going undefeated.

fresnogirl
Fresno, CA

MCH1056

Tommy says something classy and nice and there you go acting all juvenile. Oh brother!

WhoAmISir
Holladay, UT

Amen to that fresnogirl. There are "fans?" on both sides that these boards could do with without.

Who Am I Sir? A UTAH man am I!

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

MCH1056

"we are in a conference. A BCS conference. We can get into the BCS without running the table anymore."

So can Arizona, Iowa St, Baylor, Duke, Vanderbilt, Indiana, ... the list goes on and on. "Can" doesn't mean U ever "will".

Every BCS conference needs bottom feeders to help the elite teams pad their records.

ute4ever
West Jordan, UT

Ohhh man, I can not wait for the next month to eat up the football news. I've got my season tickets renewed and am roaring to go. Too bad the Jazz stink, so basketball season is no fun this year to carry me at least until the summer. Six more months until football again.....please come quickly!!!

I'm excited to see how the depth chart unfolds!!

SportsFan
Orem, UT

hedgehog

How well the defense plays won't matter if the Utes don't have a quarterback.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Well until the "bitterness and jealousy" subsides it's going to be darn difficult to become a Ute fan this first season or two.

Sure a 10-3 season is a very good season but those 3 losses were just miserable. So how does a 10-3 season in the MWC and Las Vegas Bowl convert in a stronger conference???

Nothing wrong with optimism but when fans start flaunting the BCS card and how succesful the Utes are going to be this coming season I just don't buy it.

Face it, Utes have not matched up that well against PAC-10 opponents. Just doubt that changing a few players and going into a stronger conference is going yield the same W / L record. Doesn't make sense but stranger things have happened.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"How well the defense plays won't matter if the Utes don't have a quarterback"

Sportfan,

You like to bang this drum don't you.

Let's review once again for ya - K?

Based on what you said, I'm assuming you don't think much about Heaps; He has a lower QB rating than Wynn and lost in his only head to head. Infact Wynn won the game with one arm. Heaps couldn't beat a one armed QB?

Also, I might add, that both Ute QB's available this spring were both rated higher than wynn comming out of high school. Both have bigger arms. both are more mobile, both ar bigger than Wynn.

And finally, a new offesive system is being installed.. making Wynns experience less painful not having for spring.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

hedgehog

Sorry, your analysis of Wynn and Heaps:

FAIL!!!

Compare the last 6 games of the season, when Heaps was the full-time starter and Jake was starting to find his rhythm versus the last 6 games of Wynn's sophomore year.

Heaps' stats were MUCH better than Wynn's.

It's hillarious that you compare Wynn's high school numbers with the high school numbers of Utah's other QB's, but avoid comparing them with Heaps' high school number. It's obvious why you wouldn't want to do that.

Bottom line is Utah fans would give their eye-teeth, and every QB on Utah's roster, to have Heaps starting for the Utes next season.

btw, your 2nd grade level name calling just makes your arguments look, well, 2nd grade level.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"Compare the last 6 games of the season, when Heaps was the full-time starter and Jake was starting to find his rhythm versus the last 6 games of Wynn's sophomore year."

sywalker,

one word... FAIL.

Somehow you left out quality of opponent didn't you? How about an injury that required sugery? No? not valid for your little anaylsis? LOL.

No, the best way to compare both QB's is to look at the season as a whole... and before you start Yning that Heaps didn't play all the games... nether did Wynn.

Again,

Higher QB rating - Wynn
Higher head to head- Wynn

UoU 1991
Park City, UT

hedgehog

You're a little over-optimistic expecting high school numbers to translate to college level performance.

Until we see how these new quarterbacks perform in the face of a blitzing USC linebacker, it's impossible to predict whether any of Utah's QBs will be effective in the PAC 12.

Wynn had lots of issues in the second half of last season and nobody knows how he's going to perform coming back from shoulder surgery.

Utah's QB situation is more precarious this year than it's been in many years.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"You're a little over-optimistic expecting high school numbers to translate to college level performance."

UofU,

I think we'll all be pleasently suprised at how well both the QB's do in spring practice. But no question about it, the Utes will need to have Wynn ready to go next fall... at least for a few games.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

hedgehog

Only someone who lives under a bubble of delusion in Michigan would think that comparing a true freshman quarterback who was splitting time with another quarterback, with a full-time starter, would give you a valid comparison of the two quarterbacks.

Skywalker was correct. The only valid comparison is the 2nd half of the season when both quarterbacks were playing at their best.

If Wynn performed poorly in the face of good competition, that's more of an indictment of his quarterbacking abilities heading into the PAC 12 where the competition will be stiffer every week.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

TDS troll here (not really here to troll, just to comment)

As much as I hate to admit it, the Utes have proven that they can reload on defense. I crossed my fingers last year after the Utes only returned 3 starters from the previous year's defense hoping that they would finally be weak, but you proved me wrong, congratulations. I also didn't think that a good defensive line would matter if the entire back seven were only good-to-average. I was proven wrong again. (Stupid good Ute defensive line)!

So time will tell how Utah fares in the Pac-12, but until further notice, it looks like Utah will continually field good defenses. I will say this, that the toughest defenses in the league will wear down if the QB has problems or if there isn't at least a steady running back that can keep the offense on the field. I'm surprised how well you guys held up against Boise State because it seems like the Utes couldn't convert a first down to save their lives. But, Boise only scored 26 points. It should have been way more.

Good luck this spring!

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

SoCalUte

Whatever.

Utah fans also thought that Henderson was better than Jimmer last year.

Heaps will be an All-American before he's finished his career at BYU.

Check out the video at PlanetBYU of Heaps passing a football through the basketball hoop from the 10th row in the Marriott Center ON HIS FIRST ATTEMPT.

I don't see anybody on Utah's roster that even comes close to that kind of passing ability.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

". The only valid comparison is the 2nd half of the season when both quarterbacks were playing at their best."

Coronblew,

Ok, let's try again.

Does your anaylisis include similar competition? how about shoulder surgery?

Maybe the true analysis is inconclusive. But to chest pound that Heaps is heisman worthy and that Wynn is trash.... well, as I say ... simply delusional.

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

Looks like Kwitt is already moving and blending the team to perform better next year. Finding the best player for each position is what he does best.

Can't wait and....

Go Utes!

--JEFFE--
Cedar City, UT

Hedgehog,

You always conveniently leave out the most important variables to your arguments and comparisons.

Wynn- Sophmore- Had a year in the program to learn the system with 6 games experience under his belt heading into the 2010 season.

Heaps- Freshman- Arrived on campus spring of 2010, split the reps at QB until the 4th game of the season.

If you compare Wynn's and Heaps freshman highlights, Heaps owns Wynn. 2,313yds to 1,329, 15td's to 8.

And lets look at the head to head for the BYU vs. Utah game.
Wynn- 13/30 199yds 1TD 1int Rating:103.38

Heaps-22/37 238yds 1TD 1int Rating:114.73

Also, Wynn's injury was sustained in practice the week after the Y game. Check it.
However, Heaps was playing with broken ribs against the Utes.

The problem with Wynn is he just hasn't progressed. He is small, un-athletic, and clearly intimidated on the field. Not to mention his already minimal skills will take a hit due to this injury to his throwing arm. Hopefully one of the other QB's steps up or its gonna be ugly in the PAC.

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